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| Nate 349th Post
 
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|  "Re(5):Cannibal Holocaust" , posted Mon 20 Dec 13:35
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I heard they use real animal in this movie. is it true?
I don't think so. I heard some of the crew had to go to court back in the 80's to prove it was all fake and crap. It's just.. done very convincingly.
Mmmhh, now you've made me curious about this movie...
What about the Guinea Pig movies? This very same guy told me they were the sickest movies ever made (I guess he forgot about Cannibal Holocaust...)
I'm pretty sure the movie Cannibal Ferox (similar concept to Holocaust) DOES have actual animals being killed in it. Which is sick, but hey, Italian exploitation film makers were probably on a lot of drugs back then.
Cannibal Holocaust is infamously dubbed the most gory, violent movie and such by most, though, this is correct. I myself haven't seen it. I have, however, seen a movie where a woman vomits up her own intestines. Kind of convincingly done for a movie from 1980.
The Guinea Pig series is similarly given a reputation for violence and gore, but I haven't seen it either. Wow, I'm not being very helpful, huh?
I'd say the movies you're talking about haven't aged too well, though. The gore's probably easier to spot as fake.
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| Nate 350th Post
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| "Re(7):Cannibal Holocaust" , posted Mon 20 Dec 14:21
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Is it, by any chance, a movie called Gates of Hell?
Yes, yes it is. My copy's called City of the Living Dead, one of multiple titles for it. It had a horribly nonsensical ending, didn't it?
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I've seen a few screen caps of Cannibal Holocaust and Guinea Pig: Flowers of Flesh and Blood, and they're disturbing, to say the least.
Maybe I will hunt down these two movies, but the thought of seeing real animals killed on screen is keeping me away from CH.
Yeah, Cannibal Ferox is pretty trashy. I only wish I had more knowledge about the cannibal subgenre so I could be of more help.
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| Nate 352th Post
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| "Re(9):Cannibal Holocaust" , posted Mon 20 Dec 14:48:
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I didn't know a cannibal subgenre existed, until now.
By the way, do you know if there's a compilation of Puppet Master movies? I would like to own them all on DVD.
Yeah, the whole cannibal craze was an offshoot of zombie movies, I believe. It was pretty short-lived, and obviously they don't do cannibal flicks anymore, but it still had its time.
I checked Amazon for some sort of Puppet Master compliation and nothing turned up.
Speaking of movies I'd like to see, Santa Sangre seems really tempting. I don't know if you can even buy it in the US. Wasn't there something about it being banned here? Dammit.
Speaking of horror movies I'd like to watch, what about Santa Sangre? I don't know if I can even get it in the US, but I really want to see it. Wasn't it banned here or something? Dammit.
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| HAYATO
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| "Re(10):Cannibal Holocaust" , posted Mon 20 Dec 18:05:
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Speaking of horror movies I'd like to watch, what about Santa Sangre? I don't know if I can even get it in the US, but I really want to see it. Wasn't it banned here or something? Dammit.
Well, it's one of the most famous Jodorowsky's movies, along with "El Topo" and "Holy Mountain". I haven't seen it yet, but I hope to get it soon, it looks promising.
I once saw a japanese Jodorowsky pack, so if you want them that badly you can try searching for this. I'd suggest you get them via P2P, as apart from those DVD collection and some bootleg video editions, most of Jodorosky's film copies were destroyed by an angry producer as an attempt of vengeance against him, so now these films are really hard to find anywhere.
I'm really looking forward to "Abelcain : Sons of el Topo" the sequel to "El Topo" which is going to be released in 2005, with nick Nolte and Marilyn Manson as the Bicentenary Cannibal Pope...
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| "Seen it" , posted Thu 23 Dec 14:57
Well, I was expecting more.
The part with the animals is sickening though, specially that poor possum.
Anyway, I bet the effects were great for its time, or a lot more shocking than today.
The only part that made me say wow, was the part when the cannibals ate the first guy, those Fx's are top notch even for this day.
But, besides the special effects, the movie offers nothing! You don't feel sorry for the poor fuckers being killed and eaten, because they had it coming, they were the true savages of the film, not the cannibals.
The movie is very slow paced, and it ends abruptly; it's not like I expected the cannibals to maim and eat them for an hour or so, but at least I thought the guys would try to go away, not to keep filming the death of another guy...
Anyway, I bet this would have been quite the experience back in the day.
Now, onto the Guinea Pig movies hunt...
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| Nate 364th Post
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| "Re(1):Seen it" , posted Thu 23 Dec 15:59
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But, besides the special effects, the movie offers nothing! You don't feel sorry for the poor fuckers being killed and eaten, because they had it coming, they were the true savages of the film, not the cannibals.
The movie is very slow paced, and it ends abruptly; it's not like I expected the cannibals to maim and eat them for an hour or so, but at least I thought the guys would try to go away, not to keep filming the death of another guy...
Anyway, I bet this would have been quite the experience back in the day.
That's one thing about Italian movies. They don't usually try to make you like the main characters, at least not in exploitation films like that. Usually gialli have somewhat more redeemable protagonists (like in Argento's films, for example), but yeah, the cannibal movies have characters who are mainly assholes.
Meanwhile, I'm halfway through Santa Sangre and it's been...very odd so far. But in a good way.
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| Grave 871th Post
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| "Re(1):Seen it" , posted Thu 23 Dec 16:20
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Now, onto the Guinea Pig movies hunt...
I have Santa Sangre, but it's in Boston and I'm in PA... I guess I'll watch it when I get back.
Anyway, I've seen the first two Guinea Pig films. The first was uninteresting trash. The second, though, Flower of Flesh and Blood, is a great showcase of low budget physical effects looking damn good. Charlie Sheen saw it years ago and called the FBI, thinking it was a snuff film. An investigation was launched and the filmmakers were forced to make a "making of" video to prove it wasn't real.
I watched it second semester last year when I was at school, eating popcorn and pointing out cool stuff they did. My roommate covered the side of his face with a pillow so he wouldn't have to risk seeing any of it and proceeded to watch the Simpsons on his side of the room.
I guess the moral of the story is that I lived with a pussy and that the second Guinea Pig movie is pretty vile. A lady gets dismembered in all kinds of fun ways by some crazy dude. Just skip the first one if you can, there's nothing remotely interesting about it.
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"Re(2):Cannibal Holocaust" , posted Mon 20 Dec 11:55
an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about.
