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Pollyanna

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"Game of the year" , posted Sat 1 Jan 15:58

OK. Let's have it. No top 10, no ties, no games that were released last year, no categories. What is the best game of 2004?

For me...

Gyakuten Saiban 3.

No competition. It's almost unfair. It came out nearly a year ago and nothing, all year made it even close. This is a game that has touched my heart, changed my life and will stick with me forever.

I liked Stella Deus, Avatar Tuner and Katamari Damacy (among others), but they're all just "good games". I haven't played Tales of Rebirth, MGS3 or much of Dragon Quest 8 yet, but I doubt I'll take back what I've said when I do.

The worst game of the year?
Of course...
Suikoden 4.

In its' defense, though...I'm, sure there was some budget PC game (maybe ONE) that was worse, but I don't think it crushed anyone's hopes when IT sucked.

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Fuchikoma

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"Re(1):Game of the year" , posted Sat 1 Jan 17:14

Over the span of an entire year it's always hard for me to remember the games that came out like in January and February... hmmmmm. On the console side I think I probably played the hell out of Burnout 3 and KOF Max Impact the most... Burnout 3 is definitely the greatest racing experience I've had since the early days of F-zero.

Out of everything I've played this year though I have to give it to Half-Life 2. When I'm playing HL2 sometimes I actually forget it's a game... it lives up to the hype and the mods to come will ensure it has a healthy life even long after this year.

Worst game of the year... for me it's a tie between 2 Capcom titles. Capcom Fighting Jam/Evolution just makes me lose any kind of hope in Capcom making a new 2d fighter... and I only played it to see the endings... even with that cheesy music. My worst game though has to be Crimson Tears. I had way too many expectations for that game... and I still was thinking of Dream Factory as the Tobal guys... and not the Bouncer guys. The cutscenes look awesome and really show off how far cel shading has gone (although Megaman X8 has even better cut scenes)... but man it was just murdered by retarded enemies, random dungeons that all looked the same, and just no real story to it... wasn't even worth playing through to get the SF2 and Darkstalkers costumes.

Variable Savior
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"Re(1):Game of the year" , posted Sat 1 Jan 17:27

For me the best game of 2004 was Katamari Damacy. It was a fresh idea in a industry full of sequels, knockoffs, and genre variants. The gameplay was a blast, the music fantastic (I'd pay $20.00 just for the soundtrack), and the writing quirky and enjoyable (both the King's dialogue and the item writeups).

But I'd say that Katamari is the best of 2004 because of what it wasn't. Today's games seem to combine equal parts amusement with equal parts work. I find that I've grown a bit tired of collecting doodads, earning points to unlock things, undergoing laborious side-quests, and leveling up. Katamari never seemed like a chore - playing it was always pure enjoyment. The game reminded me of why I got into games in the first place - to have fun.

And if that doesn't deserve a nod for Game of the Year I don't know what does.

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DarkZero

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"Re(2):Game of the year" , posted Sat 1 Jan 19:27

I finished Snake Eater in 25 hours over the course of 5 days. The story and the gameplay were so gripping that it was like a novel with a cliffhanger at the end of each chapter, urging you to stay with it for "just a little longer"... for three straight hours after you decided to put it down for the night. It didn't just kick ass, it redeemed the whole damn series after MGS2. Before I play any other game that I got this Christmas, I think I'm going to finish Snake Eater again.

And besides the fact that I just think it's an awesome game, I think it's also worth noting that it's one of the few games that I've played in a long time where the development team not only took the time to finish the game (and really finish it), but then actually add a huge pile of extras that most people will probably only see a small portion of. The only other games of that nature that I can think of off the top of my head are MGS1 and Half-Life.

HAYATO
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"Re(3):Game of the year" , posted Sat 1 Jan 21:07

My vote goes for GBA's "Zelda : The Minish Cap" as it's the only 2004 game I have played (yeah, I'm a nostalgic bastard who lives sticked to old arcade and console emulators

). I really enjoyed this game, the first Zelda I ever tried and finished...nuff said.

IkariDC
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"Re(4):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 00:10

quote:
My vote goes for GBA's "Zelda : The Minish Cap" as it's the only 2004 game I have played (yeah, I'm a nostalgic bastard who lives sticked to old arcade and console emulators ). I really enjoyed this game, the first Zelda I ever tried and finished...nuff said.

You are such a Capcom whore...

I at least bought that game, but my sin is that I don't usually play with my GBA. The reason is that it's not a SP.

Best game of 2004... I think it's Katamari Damacy, although it felt a little bit short. The game is pure greatness, at every level. The US price was unbeatable. Probably the BEST game of the year at the BEST price.

Haven't played MGS3 yet, I'm waiting to it's European release. I'm sure it's going to blow my head away.

Oroch

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"Re(5):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 00:31:

quote:
My vote goes for GBA's "Zelda : The Minish Cap" as it's the only 2004 game I have played (yeah, I'm a nostalgic bastard who lives sticked to old arcade and console emulators ). I really enjoyed this game, the first Zelda I ever tried and finished...nuff said.

You are such a Capcom whore... I at least bought that game, but my sin is that I don't usually play with my GBA. The reason is that it's not a SP.

Best game of 2004... I think it's Katamari Damacy, although it felt a little bit short. The game is pure greatness, at every level. The US price was unbeatable. Probably the BEST game of the year at the BEST price.

Haven't played MGS3 yet, I'm waiting to it's European release. I'm sure it's going to blow my head away.

best game of the year was probably Rumble Roses, excellent graphics, the animation was superb and it was actually a good change from the run of the mill fighting/wrestling game

not to mention if SUSHINGADA likes it, its gotta be good

:o) SUSHI!SUSHI!SUSHI!SUSHI!SUSHI!SUSHI!

the worst game wasnt doom3, because that was a tech demo

the worst game was [insert crapcom/nonsnk title here]

MESSATSU

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EddyT

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"Re(4):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 00:52

quote:
My vote goes for GBA's "Zelda : The Minish Cap" as it's the only 2004 game I have played (yeah, I'm a nostalgic bastard who lives sticked to old arcade and console emulators ). I really enjoyed this game, the first Zelda I ever tried and finished...nuff said.

I thought this game came out Jan 10th. You playing on an emu or something?

CrazyMax

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"Re(1):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 03:37

I can only pick a game of the year based on what game sucked up most of my time & I enjoyed it. Since Half Life 2 is already taken, for me it's tie: Warhammer 40, 000 Dawn of War or Def Jam Fight for NY. Warhammer was a lot of fun and had online play, but it got a bit over competitive quickly and lost some of it's fun. Def Jam I played with friends and still do and it's a riot, so I will give the vote to Def Jam Fight for NY.

EA Big rules, the rest of EA is the anti Christ of gaming.

Evenor
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"Re(2):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 04:08

Siren - because it challenged me the most this year.

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exodus

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"Re(3):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 05:59

I don't have one.

only 'new' games I played were alien hominid and technicbeat. oh and katamari damashii, but I'm not choosing that.

I think my games of the year 2004 are Castlevania: aria of sorrow and Beyond Good and Evil, since I played them both this year. whee.

Time Mage

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"Re(5):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 08:53

quote:

I thought this game came out Jan 10th. You playing on an emu or something?

The game was released in Europe in November, unlike most games, who are released first in North America.

Great game, by the way, and not as short and easy as I was told it was.

Spoon

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"Re(4):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 09:18

quote:
I don't have one.

only 'new' games I played were alien hominid and technicbeat. oh and katamari damashii, but I'm not choosing that.

I think my games of the year 2004 are Castlevania: aria of sorrow and Beyond Good and Evil, since I played them both this year. whee.

The irony of the one who runs the gaming site: he doesn't play games!
OMG SCANDAL

Pollyanna

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"Re(5):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 10:10

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The irony of the one who runs the gaming site: he doesn't play games!
OMG SCANDAL

Scandal is his middle name.
Brandon Scandal McGannical.

HAYATO
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"Re(5):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 10:58:

quote:

You are such a Capcom whore...

AND HOW !!!

quote:

I at least bought that game, but my sin is that I don't usually play with my GBA. The reason is that it's not a SP.

I know buying it is pleasant enough for you. This consumist pulsion that haunts you stops once you have ordered/ bought your freak stuff...

[this message was edited by HAYATO on Sun 2 Jan 11:00]

HAYATO
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"Re(6):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 11:08

quote:

I thought this game came out Jan 10th. You playing on an emu or something?

I didn't know of its existence until a couple of weeks ago. I downloaded it for a friend, and tested it on an emu...and got incredibly hooked!!(in fact, I finished it some days ago, but I haven't shared it with my friend yet

)

quote:

Great game, by the way, and not as short and easy as I was told it was.

Side Quests apart, it's quite short and easy, although it has some tricky parts (guessing how to beat the last boss was a pain in the ass)

Fygee

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"Re(7):Game of the year" , posted Sun 2 Jan 14:28

Shadow Hearts 2: Covenant.

Iggy

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"READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 01:57

GAME OF THE YEAR

I am fucking proud of myself.

Ugh, oh... Yeah, READ THIS NOW please.

sabo10

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"Re(1):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 02:45:

quote:
GAME OF THE YEAR

I am fucking proud of myself.

Ugh, oh... Yeah, READ THIS NOW please.

Wow! Nice article! Its definitely the best non-Brandon article on IC. You might want to credit that quote from NHK, though, before a million other people irritatingly and self-congratulatingly bring it up.

[this message was edited by sabo10 on Mon 3 Jan 02:50]

Iggy

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"Re(2):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 02:53

quote:
You might want to credit that quote from NHK, though, before a million other people irritatingly and self-congratulatingly bring it up.

On the other hand, it is the only game that doesn't exist I've talked about. The nunchaku ninja girl and the housewife volleyball do exist.

HAYATO
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"Re(2):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 02:56:

quote:
GAME OF THE YEAR

I am fucking proud of myself.

Ugh, oh... Yeah, READ THIS NOW please.

Well, the only thing I can say is that Iggy is right : this is the GAYME OF THE YEAR.

Iggy, why do you force us to know about this pervertions? I appreciate your effort but... it wasn't neccessary !!! Don't you think Mok-Kos censorship goes too far?

[this message was edited by HAYATO on Mon 3 Jan 02:59]

Time Mage

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"Re(3):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 03:49:

Good article, Iggy. I stopped reading IC articles regularly because of that "let's not talk about the game" style, so the first paragraph of your article hooked me.

On the other hand, the article is quite interesting. It's funny to see how all stereotypes are quite similar, in straight or gay ero games.

EDIT: Added a comma.

[this message was edited by Time Mage on Mon 3 Jan 03:58]

Nate

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"Re(1):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 03:55:

quote:
GAME OF THE YEAR

I am fucking proud of myself.

Ugh, oh... Yeah, READ THIS NOW please.

Wow...if a slow clap weren't such a horrible cliche, I would be doing it right now. That was a great review. I was questioning the choice of a porn game, but you really justified it and defended your choice very well. I had no clue that they'd put so much effort into this game. I think it's great that they're willing to do something that isn't all stuck in the porn fantasy world, yet still retains that level of fantasy to not make it boring. Wonderful job, Iggy.

And the MOK-KOS vision was a nice touch, too. I'm mad that exodus took so long to put this up, because I heard about this review a few weeks ago. It was totally worth reading.

THIS IS DWARF INVASION!

[this message was edited by Nate on Mon 3 Jan 03:56]

exodus

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"Re(2):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 06:51

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I'm mad that exodus took so long to put this up

sorry ;_;
I had to set aside a large block of time to really make the language flow, and the grammar all proper. We're working on a system to get stuff up faster, so it shouuuuld be a better turnaround in the future.

Nate

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"Re(3):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 07:08

quote:

sorry ;_;
I had to set aside a large block of time to really make the language flow, and the grammar all proper. We're working on a system to get stuff up faster, so it shouuuuld be a better turnaround in the future.

It's okay. I understand that people on this board (yes, even me from time to time) have lives, haha.

THIS IS DWARF INVASION!

Iggy

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"Re(4):READ THIS NOW" , posted Mon 3 Jan 08:09

quote:
It's okay. I understand that people on this board (yes, even me from time to time) have lives, haha.

Ahahaha, best quote of 2005.

Ishmael

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"Re(2):Game of the year" , posted Tue 4 Jan 05:23

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But I'd say that Katamari is the best of 2004 because of what it wasn't. Today's games seem to combine equal parts amusement with equal parts work. I find that I've grown a bit tired of collecting doodads, earning points to unlock things, undergoing laborious side-quests, and leveling up. Katamari never seemed like a chore - playing it was always pure enjoyment. The game reminded me of why I got into games in the first place - to have fun.

Well put. It's amazing, and a little depressing, that some game makers don't seem to understand that having to spend a great deal of time on a game is not the same thing as having fun with a game. Then again, most games don't have as original a game engine as KD so they have to resort to other methods to hold the attention of players.

Also, great job on the article Iggy!

Mosquiton

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"Re(2):READ THIS NOW" , posted Tue 4 Jan 06:44:

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Wow! Nice article!

I have to agree. My favorite IC article to date... even though Tim's Katamari Damacy review (and learning that he's a big fan of both Ogre Battle and River City Ransom) have given me much more respect for the guy.

quote:

Its definitely the best non-Brandon article on IC.

I find that statment highly amusing, considering the subjective nature of Insert Credit. Or maybe you're the president of the B-Sheff Fan Club?

Hah. I kid, and no disrespect to our pal exodus, but that's the kind of bold personal statement that actually warrants a IMO, maybe even an IMHO. I mean, IMO.

Edit: I guess I should include the link for late-readers of the thread: http://www.insertcredit.com/reviews/ietate/

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[this message was edited by Mosquiton on Tue 4 Jan 06:46]

exodus

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"A famous Iggy" , posted Thu 6 Jan 06:36

http://boingboing.net/

sabo10

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"Re(1):A famous Iggy" , posted Thu 6 Jan 06:49:

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http://boingboing.net/

cute!?

quote:
I find that statment highly amusing, considering the subjective nature of Insert Credit. Or maybe you're the president of the B-Sheff Fan Club?

I'm just saying that I think Insert Credit is a great site, and if I'm not mistaken, Brandon is the most in charge of maintaining it. Its just that some of the contributed articles are a bit

and the forum community there is kind of

I don't really feel the need to qualify that with an "IMO" or whatever, since in my experience, I've found that my opinion is actually much more accurate than that of most other people I know.

Iggy already put it perfectly in the introductory part of his article.

[this message was edited by sabo10 on Thu 6 Jan 07:00]

Iggy

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"Re(2):A famous MOK-KOS" , posted Thu 6 Jan 06:52:

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cute!?

At first, I thought I was the cute one.
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Dr Baghead

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"Re(1):Game of the year" , posted Thu 6 Jan 08:01

Best Game of the Year:
Mortal Kombat Deception (while not ground breaking, the MK team has shown they've learned a lot about making real fighting games and making games look nice. Compared to their last offering MKD is a HUGE improvement and deserves credit for it's efforts even if MK-doubts will say "it's an MK game so it sucks!" and MK-'fans' will say "it's got no super unlockables or Rain or Stryker or Hornbuckle so it sucks!")

and in contrast to a Best Game of the year that learned something...

Worst Game of the Year:
Dead or Alive Ultimate (DoA3 was at best a minor upgrade to DoA2 and at worse it was a lousy fighting game that was rushed out the door to be an XBox launch title. So obvious the best follow up to DoA3 isn't a game bulit around updating it to stand on it's own, NO! It's removing all the new stuff from DoA3 (except Hitomi, a character I personally dispise) and upgrading DoA2 AGAIN... because WOW! we there aren't already 700000 versions of DoA2 out there since the US DC, Japanese PS2, Europe DC, Japanese DC, US PS2, Europe PS2, and Japanese PS2 second version were all given minor upgrades over each other already. And to make DoAU an even better 'bonus' they include DoA1! Not DoA++ the arcade upgraded version of DoA1, or even the PSX version of DoA1, but no! The SATURN version, because if you're going to go all out and but you're complete "triology" of games on one system make sure to use the most outdated version you can!.... pfff, I'm just bitter Christie isn't in the game. But hey, Ninja Gaiden was really fun so I guess Team Ninja ain't all stupid.)

yeah it's not funny

Mosquiton

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"Re(2):A famous Iggy" , posted Thu 6 Jan 14:54

quote:

I'm just saying that I think Insert Credit is a great site, and if I'm not mistaken, Brandon is the most in charge of maintaining it. Its just that some of the contributed articles are a bit

...

Iggy already put it perfectly in the introductory part of his article.

It's hardly that.

I just thought you were being a bit disrespectful of the other writers involved with the website. And I guess you feel the same way about the forums.

You're certainly entitled, though.

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