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Lupin 2856th Post
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| "Re(1):OT: are the bad Elektra movie reviews f" , posted Sun 16 Jan 16:36
quote: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/elektra
So RottenTomatoes has Elektra at 7% right now, which is less the "the worse comic movie ever" Catwoman (9%) the previeous worse reviewed Marvel Movie, the 80's Punisher (11%... of the recent movies Blade Trinity at 27% and new Punisher at 29% are the worse) and even it's 'competition' this week, the absolutely horrible looking Racing Stripes (currently 39%)
I had no intention of seeing Elektra in theatres or on DVD, I fucking HATE the Daredevil movie and Alias so I assume I won't like this much more... so I was looking forward to seeing this bomb at both box office and with critics, but most of the reviews seem to hate the movie more because it's loosely connected to a movie about Ben Affleck then the fact it's truely a horrendous movie it seems like if Elektra had come out before Daredevil and no one told them it had a link to Affleck it would have gotten at least 20-40%
So I just wanted to ask anyone who has seen it/will be seeing it: is it really deserving of the 7% it has? or has Ben Affleck worn out his welcome so much in Hollywood they're taking out on his loved ones/vaguely connected movies?
Hm, well based on what I've seen of the movie it's equally bad as Daredevil, except it's a sequel, or something like that right?, so we can expect it to be slightly lower quality.
Also does Marvel own Jennifer Garner now like the movie studios used to own actors?
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Hungrywolf 2979th Post
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| "Re(1):OT: are the bad Elektra movie reviews f" , posted Mon 17 Jan 07:18
quote: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/elektra
So RottenTomatoes has Elektra at 7% right now, which is less the "the worse comic movie ever" Catwoman (9%) the previeous worse reviewed Marvel Movie, the 80's Punisher (11%... of the recent movies Blade Trinity at 27% and new Punisher at 29% are the worse) and even it's 'competition' this week, the absolutely horrible looking Racing Stripes (currently 39%)
I had no intention of seeing Elektra in theatres or on DVD, I fucking HATE the Daredevil movie and Alias so I assume I won't like this much more... so I was looking forward to seeing this bomb at both box office and with critics, but most of the reviews seem to hate the movie more because it's loosely connected to a movie about Ben Affleck then the fact it's truely a horrendous movie it seems like if Elektra had come out before Daredevil and no one told them it had a link to Affleck it would have gotten at least 20-40%
So I just wanted to ask anyone who has seen it/will be seeing it: is it really deserving of the 7% it has? or has Ben Affleck worn out his welcome so much in Hollywood they're taking out on his loved ones/vaguely connected movies?
As a fan of Marvel comics and a big fan of the Daredevil movie, here is my take. I don't think Elektra is a good enough character to stand alone in her own film. In addition, a lot of things could've been better. The first scene where she kills someone was ok, then it got really slow until the fights with the Hand. I really wanted the movie to start off with Elektra's death in Daredevil. I also wanted at least maybe a mention of Matt Murdock in this movie, but I guess they wanted it to completely stand alone by itself. The Hand should've had a lot more character development, and I think I would've prefered if Typhoid Mary wasn't in this movie (I'd have prefered her for a Daredevil sequel. Though I've heard no plans yet, I'm sure one will get made). And I didn't like the changes to Mary and I don't think she was ever in the Hand.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - Not to mention the fact that Typhoid Mary gets killed.
End of Spoiler
The Hnad were actually pretty interesting in the film, there just wasn't much development of them. I thought there was too much character development of Elektra. I thought that I already had a sense of who she was from Daredevil and didn't need them to re-explain things for me. All people need in the movie is to know how Elektra is alive again, know who her enemies are, and see them fight. Alright, so they need more than that, but those are the basics, and I kindof felt like I didn't really know the enemies well enough. I could've done without Elektra's pals (the little girl, it never really explained well enough why she was so special). I wish the story had just been about Elektra and the hand and left the little girl and her daddy out of it. Still, the effects were good. Tattoo was probably the coolest villain in the movie in terms of his power I guess, and Stone was neat...well, all the villains were neat. Elektra's costume was nice (and what I would've liked to have seen in Daredevil). There were good points of the movie, it just seemed to be missing something, so it wasn't really bad, but it was really good either. I'll probably buy it to go with my Marvel DVD collection though. It was better than the Hulk (and that's getting a sequel. At least they are promising a smaller Hulk in the sequel and what appears to be a truer version of the character). And it had to be better than Catwoman (I never saw Catwoman, refused to, way too many changes to the real character. They should've just called it something else). I didn't feel like I threw my $7.00 away at Elektra. But I wouldn't rush out to go see it again. The Fantastic Four trailer really gave me good feelings about the FF movie though. Seeing the Human Torch fly was nice, and it was nice to see him completely flame on (sites describing the movie made it sound like he'd only shoot flame from his fingertips or some nonsense like that). I got to see an invisible shield. I got to see Thing crush a truck. I got to see Mr. Fantastic stretch his hand under a door and up to the handle to open it from the other side (and the stretching effects were better than I thought they'd be). I'm really looking forward to FF. I wasn't disappointed by the trailer.
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sushi_bunny 341th Post
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| "Elektra Movie - My thoughts" , posted Tue 18 Jan 11:41
I would say that I saw this movie, and it was a lot better than Catwoman. Catwoman was pretty bad. I don't even want to touch that DVD at Blockbuster tomorrow. I watched it with a neighbor-lady-friend of mine. I also wanted to see Appleseed, but it's kinda far where I live to see it. Hopefully it's still playing on Thursday on my day off.[I read in Entertainment Weekly this was a C+ movie..]
Elektra had some good and bad moments. It tried to be a meaningful and sensitive film, but I felt confused at certain parts. Like she kept having flashbacks of a demon, then a ninja, then towards the end, it was that asian guy. If she had the power to see the future, why didn't she see that guy's face in the first place?
I loved Terrence Stamp in that movie. I think he's a great actor. I saw him in "The Limey", and also "My Boss's Daughter".
It made me smirk that the guy from Mortal Kombat who portrayed Shang Tsung was in Elektra. I could not shake that off in my head, and I felt that was pretty annoying.
Other than this, the good parts were she totally organizes her fruits and toilettries , and the little girl tells her that she has OCD was kind of cute.
I thought that some of the cut scenes like her running on a tree, and having it fall on that buff black guy to save the other girl could of been a little better. I didn't see the believeability in that part because the cut scenes felt odd to me.
The computer graphics were okay, but I didn't really think Tatoo was necessary in that film. He didn't do any kung fu or anything, so that pretty much kept another mental tab of the movie's shortcomings. I would of paid 5.00 for this movie instead of 10.00 because I felt half filled, and half empty after seeing it. Maybe even 3.50 if I waited two months to see it at Milpitas Cinema Saver.
It was good, but not great. I just wanted to see it because it had Jennifer Garner in it, since I liked her in 13 going on 30. I haven't even watched Alias yet, but I hope I won't be disappointed in watching it when I rent it from Blockbuster with my movie pass.
At least I got to see Jennifer Garner, she's pretty hot. Screw Ben Affleck in Daredevil, Jennifer Garner pretty much stole the show for me. It's too bad she acted like a different person in Elektra.
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ONSLAUGHT 3205th Post
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| "Re(1):Fantastic Four Trailer" , posted Wed 19 Jan 13:12
quote: http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/index.html
Whoa, it doesn't look THAT bad, in fact, it looks decent. Sure, they fucked up Doom's origin, and the movie won't be as fantastic as their adventures in the comics (you know, intergalactic stuff), but for what I've seen in the teaser, they seem to have their escences intact, and that's what counts.
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Undead Fred 2017th Post
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| "Re(3):Man, this is sad..." , posted Thu 20 Jan 10:32
quote: I think anything should be possible in comics. And I think Colossus was dead long enough that his return doesn't cheapen his sacrifice. I hate when people use that for the reason they think a character should stay dead.
First of all, I hadn't read comics in forever, but holy shit there are a lot of dead people now. "Oh yeah, you didn't hear? Spider-Man and Mary Jane have separated, Colossus is dead, and oh yeah, George Jetson got addicted to space crack and was found dead in an alley."
I really wish the comic book writers would either make up their minds and have characters stay dead or just stop killing people's favorites as a sales gimmick. When they come back, it just makes me wonder why the hell they were killed in the first place. I don't know. Maybe the comic book fans see it differently, but it's the same attitude I have toward movies that try to finish a series by killing people off, but then come back with a sequel later (the Alien series, for example). Either stop making sequels, or don't kill people off. The End.
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| "Re(3):Man, this is sad..." , posted Fri 21 Jan 09:34
FUN FACT: Piece of Shit Looking movie "Are We There Yet?" Has tied Elektra at 7% rating, which is not surprising given how horrible it looks (It's funny that "Adult abuses child" is horrible, but "Child abuses adult" is slapstick comedy... if someone made a movie were and adult forces a child to do things that humilate and degrade and even possibly kill them there'd rightfully be a lot of protest... but a kid does it an adult and Nickelodeon runs the trailers non-stop and it's sold as "Family Comedy") but Given no one here has been absolutely disgusted by Elektra and it's trailers don't make it looks unwatchable, I think the 7% it got is rather unfair.
quote: Two more notes on the Stan Lee lawsuit. At this moment, Google News lists 264 articles online about Stan's victory. Some list Stan as creator, not co-creator. A few refer to him as "cartoonist Stan Lee," suggesting wrongly that he drew. Steve Ditko is unmentioned in the 264 articles.
It makes sense why Ditko isn't mentioned, he's not suing... TADA! (didn't he sue when the first one came out to get co-creator's billing though? at least he's getting something from the movies now)
However: -it's possible they're calling him "creator" because they're misinformed/been mislead. All of the books do say "STAN LEE PRESENTS" there by, it seems like these are all ideas he created... and if someone doesn't understand comics are about art as they are story, it would seem 'logical' since he wrote the stories he created everything and just told Ditko "draw this", so Ditko was a pawn to Stan's creation... either of those is wrong to do, but at least it means they're not trying to ignore Ditko -calling him a "cartoonist" might because they couldn't think of a better term for "guy who makes comics"... since "writer/editor" makes it sound like he's got a real job... but of course it does imply he's an artist which just misleads idiots who write stories to be all "I WANT TO GET STAN LEE TO DRAW MY COMICS!!!"
quote: I don't like the "dead is dead" thing personally
...speaking of which, it seems the true idenities of both Hush (turns out he's not really Thomas Elliot after all) and the new Red Hood are unknown... and since they never found Jason Todd's body, I think it's obvious he's going to be one of them... but WHO?!
yeah it's not funny
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Hungrywolf 2988th Post
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| "Re(4):Man, this is sad..." , posted Fri 21 Jan 09:46
quote:
...speaking of which, it seems the true idenities of both Hush (turns out he's not really Thomas Elliot after all) and the new Red Hood are unknown... and since they never found Jason Todd's body, I think it's obvious he's going to be one of them... but WHO?!
I know, I look forward to him returning if he is a villain, I don't want Jason Todd to return and be a good guy though.
On another note, I borrowed the old Fantastic Four movie from the guy who runs the Heroclix tournaments at the comic store here. I just finished watching the movie, and I can say with some certainty that the Fantastic Four movie coming out this year will be far, far superior. However, the old FF wasn't as bad as I was expecting, but it was bad, but survivable (if that's a word).
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