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| Dr Baghead 3394th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):Anime censorship hits a new low" , posted Sun 13 Mar 18:26
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I usually don't watch the american TV versions of a show... but I happened to leave the TV on after Justice League tonight and Gas... errr.. Zatch Bell came on. I have now officially seen the most stupid and pointless censorship ever. A bank is being robbed... so the robber should have a gun right? No, he has this awkward looking grey blob that makes a charging noise whenever he moves it. The geniuses decided to digitally edit the gun out and replace it with a space age laser... because of course we know all bankrobbers use laser guns. It wasn't even a short scene... this went on for minutes accompanied by that dumb sound effect. What's even worse is the shows that had come on earlier on Toonami like Justice League had characters running around with real guns shooting stuff!
In the tone of comic book guy... "worst... edit.... EVER!"
Maybe it censored so bad ON PURPOSE!!!
Cuz you see, anime fans by and large are cheap ass bastards, if they can watch something for free, by dammit they're gonna watch it for free (quick! name one anime fan club that shows DVD's they bought with their own money at a videostore! Right, they all use the "oh we don't want to do anything illegal so we have public viewings of free bootleg subs we found on the internet rather then licensed DVD's, techincally it's just as illegal but it cost a lot less!" theory to justify their cheapassery.)
So obviously it's in the best interest of the animes distrubitor to get as many cuts as possible and make them as obvious as possible... because it there's one thing anime fans hate more then buying anime, it's censored anime!
So making it damn obvious they changed the word "gay" to "silly" (but not hidding the fact the 'silly' man keeps rubbing againist the lead male character and is wearing a pink suit) or super imposed a tube top and shorts that don't match the original shading and have jagged matt lines over the naked chick (while not chaing the dialog so it seems odd the characters react with shock to seeing someone wearing average summer clothes) or making 'beer' into blue 'juice' that's such an odd color of blue is obviously fake (why not just not recolor it and call it 'apple juice' I've SEEN foamy apple juice but I've never seen neon blue foamy crap) or turns a cigerette into a lolipop or a gun into a fish that shoots rainbows or they change dialog to make no sense (the "I need your sword!"... "not those, the ones at the end of your sword!" 'joke' from Tenchi Muyo, we were supposed to ingore Ryoko asking for a swords at the end of the sword, and prentend 'sword' isn't a euphanism for 'dick' despite what Tenchi covers when she ask for that, and then from their pretend the censorship from 'balls' to 'swords' made it cleaner NOT dirtier like it actually did.)
or my most favoritest censorship of all: Kirlin having an overly complicated way of covering the Invisible man in 'tomato soup'... rather then just getting a can of soup he has to find Master Roshi (who Kirlin assumes carries it with him at all times, I guess) and takes Bulma along with them for no reason, then he counts to 3 and has Roshi throw the soup on the invisible man, soup that comes in a Soda can (with carbination popping sound)... you know instead of just taking the soup and throwing it himself... I think the censorship is WAY more offensive then a pair of cartoon boobs, cartoon boobs only offend part of the population, thinking we're stupid enough to fall for that censorship offends EVERYONE.
So anyway back to my point... by showing an anime on TV a distrubtor gets money AND a fanbase, by showing it cut on TV they get the money from the cable company AND a fan base AND force anime purist who want to see the see the series as it was intended/13 year old boys thinking they're missing boobs and bloodshed to buy the DVD's (or at least rent them and copy them, forcing videostores to buy the series at least)
It's the ultimate marketing campaign!! Like saying in commericals "PLEASE DON'T REVEAL THE SECRET ENDING TO YOUR FRIENDS! DON'T SPOIL THE BRING SURPRISE! YOU WON'T BELIEVE YOUR EYES!" you hear that and think "Oh man! I'm missing something GREAT!" just like a futury space gun let's you know you're missing out on a real gun and maybe they cut a few scenes!!
yeah it's not funny
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| Undead Fred 2218th Post
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| "Re(10):Anime censorship hits a new low" , posted Tue 15 Mar 09:39:
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I'm actually surprised to hear that about Full Metal Alchemist... I had just automatically assumed it was going to be majorly toned down... like saying Ed lost his arm and leg in a freak lawnmower accident or something. I guess I should sit through a whole episode of FMA before I pass judgement, I just caught a bit of one episode and I wasn't too crazy about Ed's VA, so I flipped the channel. If the FMA movie makes it to US theaters, I guess I'll go see it though.
Come to think of it, I did watch the first episode of GITS:SAC on Adult Swim and I was surprised that it was entirely uncut... they even showed that guy getting his foot blown off. The dubbing voices for GITS (the movies, games, and now tv show) have always been great in my opinion.
So it seems that GITS and FMA are uneditted... yet a show like Zatch Bell that comes on like 3 or 4 hours earlier on the same night have to be heavily editted.
... go figure.
Well, again, those are being shown on Adult Swim. So, aside from nekkid boobies or someone saying "motherfucker" or something, it'll be uncut. It's a shame to have those other shows so heavily censored, but since they're showing them to kids and don't want soccer moms across the US to go berserk, then they censor it. No real surprise there. Personally, I wouldn't complain about censored TV anime as long as there's an untouched version out there either through fansubs or DVD releases. Now, when they censor the DVD releases, that's inexcusable. Sucks to hear that Steamboy's been chopped, though. I didn't know that Disney had tampered with it... I knew they did Miyazaki's stuff, but I didn't know they got Steamboy. 
As for One Piece, I had never seen it, but is that one character just going to be renamed Candyman or something? It seems like everything he owns or wears is being converted into candy by now...
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| DarkZero 1159th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Anime censorship hits a new low" , posted Tue 15 Mar 20:49
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Well, again, those are being shown on Adult Swim. So, aside from nekkid boobies or someone saying "motherfucker" or something, it'll be uncut. It's a shame to have those other shows so heavily censored, but since they're showing them to kids and don't want soccer moms across the US to go berserk, then they censor it. No real surprise there. Personally, I wouldn't complain about censored TV anime as long as there's an untouched version out there either through fansubs or DVD releases. Now, when they censor the DVD releases, that's inexcusable. Sucks to hear that Steamboy's been chopped, though. I didn't know that Disney had tampered with it... I knew they did Miyazaki's stuff, but I didn't know they got Steamboy.
The odd thing is though, that while GitS and FMA are considered "Adult Swim", Gundam Seed is still part of "Toonami"... at 1AM. Thus, it's being edited as if it was being shown at 4PM right after the kids get out of school and come home to chill out in front of the TV. I mean, seriously... 1AM. What the Hell are they afraid of, the Nocturnal Christian Parents' Alliance coming after them? I feel like the shows that ended up on the late night version of Toonami were just tossed in the dumpster, as if Cartoon Network licensed them and then said, "Nah, we don't like it any more. Let's exile it to the Saturday Night Animation Ghetto."
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| threesixtee 851th Post
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| "about FMA on AS" , posted Wed 16 Mar 02:13
quick note about FMA on AS:
Lust sounds TOTALLY FREAKING HOT.
back to the conversation about censorship and whatnot... it reminds me of when I was in junior high and cared about stuff like that. now as a cynical 20-something pseudo-adult, I can watch stuff like this and laugh. seriously. in shaman king faust VIII can't even be called a "necromancer" but a "boneyard sorcerer"... the ultimate villain, hao, is now named "zeke" - that's comedy. gundam seed's laser pistols? equally hilarious, if not for the aforementioned lazy editing of it, but for the fact that they pilot huge big giant robots with awesome destructive weaponry yet they weild little toy dart guns. I guess when you've lived through butcherings of sailor moon, escaflowne, ROBOTECH, et. all, for north american viewing, stuff like this really doesn't get to you.
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| Dr Baghead 3399th Post
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| "Re(5):Re(10):Anime censorship hits a new low" , posted Thu 17 Mar 11:06
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A country where you can't say "shit" on TV
Actually, you can't say shit on American TV as a rule.
Oh sure there's exceptions (the 'shit' Episode of South Park being most notable, and any time between 1am and 6am) but for the most part shit is still bleeped ,ie-On Monday's episode of the Daily Show, the interviewee was a man who wrote a book titled "On Bullshit", the two airings on Monay [11pm and 1am] where allowed to air unbleeped, however all showings on Tuesday (10am, 7pm, 11:30pm, and 1:30am... yeah, they air it a lot don't they?) were bleeped... it's also worth noting South Park episodes after the shit one have bleeped the word.
yeah it's not funny
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| Undead Fred 2228th Post
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| "Re(6):Re(10):Anime censorship hits a new low" , posted Thu 17 Mar 11:18
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A country where you can't say "shit" on TV
Actually, you can't say shit on American TV as a rule.
Yeah, there are the FCC's list of "the seven unspeakable words" or whatever. Cable can sometimes get away with it, not really sure how the rules go, but I'm pretty sure it's up to the particular networks on cable TV as to what they'll allow, but I've got no idea.
Speaking of South Park, the South Park movie was all about this topic (for those who hadn't seen it). In the US, we'll allow graphic violence, but man, you had BETTER not swear while you knife someone in the eye.
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