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Iggy

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"X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 00:23

here.

72.3% want a PS3
21.9% want a Revolution
5.8% want a X Box 360
21.5% don't want any.

On the other hand, the 360's potential fanbase is growing at an amazing rate, since they were only 2% in July to want one.

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Burning Ranger

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"Re(1):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 03:02

quote:
here.

72.3% want a PS3
21.9% want a Revolution
5.8% want a X Box 360
21.5% don't want any.

On the other hand, the 360's potential fanbase is growing at an amazing rate, since they were only 2% in July to want one.

But this is potential demand in Japan-- the US market has already solidified a position fotr the X360. Sure, I think there's a big demand for PS3 here, but really X360 will have almost as much demand as a PS3, if not equal demand. Is a new console war brewing?

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Kikkoken

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"Re(1):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 03:02

quote:
here.

72.3% want a PS3
21.9% want a Revolution
5.8% want a X Box 360
21.5% don't want any.

On the other hand, the 360's potential fanbase is growing at an amazing rate, since they were only 2% in July to want one.

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crazymike

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"Re(2):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 03:39

Why is it Microsoft has had such a hard time catching up to Sony yet most of Japan quickly abandoned Nintendo allegiance for Sony when the PSX came out? Its not like the Playstation's software library was even that great in its early run.

Ishmael

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"Re(1):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 03:57

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21.5% don't want any.

This group is actually waiting for the Infinium Phantom. But, really, isn't it a little early to decide on a next-gen console? Personally I know I'm not going to an opinion one way or the other about the Revolution until I at least see a controller.

Rid

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"Re(3):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 09:30

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Why is it Microsoft has had such a hard time catching up to Sony yet most of Japan quickly abandoned Nintendo allegiance for Sony when the PSX came out? Its not like the Playstation's software library was even that great in its early run.

Because it isn't Japanese, it's simple.

And for an anime fan, the X-Box library has been always horrendous.

Mokona

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"Re(1):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 09:42

quote:
here.

72.3% want a PS3
21.9% want a Revolution
5.8% want a X Box 360
21.5% don't want any.

On the other hand, the 360's potential fanbase is growing at an amazing rate, since they were only 2% in July to want one.

Interesting.
Do they give any info on the population that was surveyed? I guess it is representative of the industries regular buyers.

Microsoft is making efforts to reach the japanese market.
They really need to drop the focus on sports games and north american actioners if they want to achieve that. More RPGs (X-box exclusive; if not, it's worth nothing) and most of all more japanese developers endorsing the system will help them.

Blah!

crazymike

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"Re(4):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 15:19

quote:
Why is it Microsoft has had such a hard time catching up to Sony yet most of Japan quickly abandoned Nintendo allegiance for Sony when the PSX came out? Its not like the Playstation's software library was even that great in its early run.
Because it isn't Japanese, it's simple.

And for an anime fan, the X-Box library has been always horrendous.

Well I always figured it was that but I don't like to sound like an American nationalist pointing out Japanese nationalism.

Iggy

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"Re(2):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 18:11

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But, really, isn't it a little early to decide on a next-gen console?

The survey is done every two month or so.
It's just buzz, and mindless fun.

Microsoft doesn't catch up in Japan because they simply don't know how to handle the market, plain and simple. It's not only a question of nationalism : Microsoft did a terrible job with the console in Japan, and the few people who actually wanted to give MS a chance there, were slapped in the face.
Now they have 3 problems to face : they are not japanese, they don't understand anything to the japanese market AND they sell the sequel to a terrible product.

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Sensenic

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"Re(3):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 19:06

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Now they have 3 problems to face : they are not japanese,

Indeed.
I noticed that in the poll results it says:
- Nintendo
- Sony Computer Entertainment
- (Kanji for USA) Microsoft
- nope

I wonder if that's the text from the original poll.
I see biased people...

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Iggy

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"Re(4):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 19:36

Well... Yeah, the X Box has been created by the american branch of MS.

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NARUTO

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"Re(5):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Sun 11 Sep 23:41

In france the Xbox360 have awaken the curiusity of the player until they learn that on 2 peoples creator of the Xbox (Jay allard and Ed Fries) one have leave his place...
And until I don't remeber which magazine reported an inter vew with some one telling that the Xbox was 1,5 time a PS2, and that now a Xbox360 in 3 time a Xbox so 4,5 a PS2...And then annonced that a PS3 is just 8 time a PS2...

Strangely more and more where interested in the PS3...

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Kikkoken

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"Re(6):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Mon 12 Sep 00:47

quote:
In france the Xbox360 have awaken the curiusity of the player until they learn that on 2 peoples creator of the Xbox (Jay allard and Ed Fries) one have leave his place...
And until I don't remeber which magazine reported an inter vew with some one telling that the Xbox was 1,5 time a PS2, and that now a Xbox360 in 3 time a Xbox so 4,5 a PS2...And then annonced that a PS3 is just 8 time a PS2...

Strangely more and more where interested in the PS3...

But in France, the player is more interested in a romance anyway.

Iggy

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"Re(6):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Mon 12 Sep 00:48

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Xbox was 1,5 time a PS2, and that now a Xbox360 in 3 time a Xbox so 4,5 a PS2...And then annonced that a PS3 is just 8 time a PS2...

Thank god, this doesn't mean anything.

And I'm not saying so because the post was written by NARUTO.

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=>　殺してでもうばいとる
　　ゆずってくれ　たのむ！！

Kikkoken

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"Re(7):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Mon 12 Sep 03:17:

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Xbox was 1,5 time a PS2, and that now a Xbox360 in 3 time a Xbox so 4,5 a PS2...And then annonced that a PS3 is just 8 time a PS2...
Thank god, this doesn't mean anything.

And I'm not saying so because the post was written by NARUTO.

It's just because you're not a god with figures.

[this message was edited by Kikkoken on Mon 12 Sep 03:18]

crazymike

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"Re(8):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Mon 12 Sep 05:03

I'm just waiting to see when a Chinese company jumps into the console industry.

Ishmael

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"Re(4):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Mon 12 Sep 05:03

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And for an anime fan, the X-Box library has been always horrendous.

But if the power of the DOA girls in swimsuits can't sell X-Boxes in Japan would the never-ending stream of nonsense from Bandai actually help?

NARUTO

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"Re(7):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Mon 12 Sep 17:12

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Xbox was 1,5 time a PS2, and that now a Xbox360 in 3 time a Xbox so 4,5 a PS2...And then annonced that a PS3 is just 8 time a PS2...
Thank god, this doesn't mean anything.

And I'm not saying so because the post was written by NARUTO.

hum... I'm not sure if I can trust you...
Anyway those comes from a french video game Magazine, which expalin a lots of things....

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Phoenix

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"Re(5):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Mon 12 Sep 19:56

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And for an anime fan, the X-Box library has been always horrendous.

But if the power of the DOA girls in swimsuits can't sell X-Boxes in Japan would the never-ending stream of nonsense from Bandai actually help?

Well MS just needs to buy Bandai, Tommy, FFs, DQs, MGS...and DOA helped a lot I think.

makatiel
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"Re(6):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Tue 13 Sep 11:49

i always think it's funny when people think xbox 1's failure in japan is due to japanese nationalism. i guess that same nationalism is the reason for ms window's failure in japan too, right? also, mcdonalds, starbucks, coca cola, etc., etc.

xbox 1's release in japan was shitty. the original machines had serious problems with disc scratching and ms customer support pretty much said fuck you to everyone who complained. it also had almost no release games and was heavy on fps'es (which arent as popular in japan). considering how badly ms handled the xbox 1 in japan, im surprised even 5% of consumers are interested in xbox 2.

it's like blaming the failure of the saturn in america on nationalism. i loved the saturn, but anyone with a brain can tell you that sega didnt handle that one well.

Gojira

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"Re(5):X box, the same and not the same" , posted Tue 13 Sep 15:10

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Well... Yeah, the X Box has been created by the american branch of MS.

But a lot of Nintendo's console research takes place in the US.
...
Or is that supposed to be a secret?