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"GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Thu 20 Oct 23:34post reply

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"Re(1):GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Fri 21 Oct 01:19post reply

NEAT!

I didn't want to make a new thread since I've seen tons here already for the original games, but I finally got my order from Capcom and I'm glad Iggy has been touting this for so long. I'm on the third case, and while their justice system is a mockery it's really fun and the translation is excellent.

Also Capcom gave me a bunch of free shit with my order including a pointing finger stylus, a bookmark, an e3 catalogue of their games, a demo of some pinball game and a "Pheonix Wright" T shirt. Score.






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"Re(2):GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Fri 21 Oct 05:11post reply

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and the translation is excellent.



You mean the SCRIPT is excellent?





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"Re(3):GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Fri 21 Oct 05:41post reply

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You mean the SCRIPT is excellent?



I mean your MOM is excellent.

Actually, I asked Capcom a bit ago, and they said that aside from some cultural things, they didn't rewrite, largely translated.





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"Re(4):GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Fri 21 Oct 06:31post reply

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I mean your MOM is excellent.

Heheh, going for the Belmont approach. This reminds me, anyone recall the original link used for "damare, kowappa!" responses to stupid questions?





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"Sales figures" , posted Fri 21 Oct 06:58post reply

I picked up a used DS($80) for this game and Castlevania DS and Nanostray.

Just wondering but does anyone know how well the game's selling? Or where I can get sales figures for games in general; like resources that sites and bloggers use. Cause I hope to play the sequels too.





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"Re(1):Sales figures" , posted Fri 21 Oct 07:13post reply

I'm not trying to pick on the English translation. Not now at least.

My point was that the goodness of the script that the goodness of the translation aren't necessarily related, and if you haven't played the Japanese, you can't comment on the translation.

But, from what I've seen, the writing, while not especially accurate, is reasonably clever and well-written. It's not my idea of a good translation, but it's not lazy or poor.





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"Re(2):Sales figures" , posted Fri 21 Oct 07:31post reply

I can agree with that, sure.

but begrudgingly!





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"Re(3):Sales figures" , posted Fri 21 Oct 07:35post reply

By the way, I'm still trying to figure out if the comment about my Mom is offensive, or if I'm just jealous. Maybe I'm just upset because my mom is an internet whore.





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"Re(4):Sales figures" , posted Fri 21 Oct 07:49post reply

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By the way, I'm still trying to figure out if the comment about my Mom is offensive, or if I'm just jealous.



can't it be both?





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"Re(5):GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Fri 21 Oct 18:12post reply

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This reminds me, anyone recall the original link used for "damare, kowappa!" responses to stupid questions?


Are you talking of the scan of the Yotsubato page I used (I think I uploaded it myself on the image BBS) or of something more sophisticated ?





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"Re(2):Sales figures" , posted Fri 21 Oct 22:43post reply

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I'm not trying to pick on the English translation. Not now at least.

My point was that the goodness of the script that the goodness of the translation aren't necessarily related, and if you haven't played the Japanese, you can't comment on the translation.

But, from what I've seen, the writing, while not especially accurate, is reasonably clever and well-written. It's not my idea of a good translation, but it's not lazy or poor.



Eh whatever. That's pretty picky considering that the English script is generally refered to as a translation (no matter how inacurate it is). I don't think this is Samurai Pizza Cats where the original is thrown out and completely rewritten.

I see what you're saying, but I kinda think it's not worth arguing over.






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"Re(6):GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Sat 22 Oct 01:51post reply

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Are you talking of the scan of the Yotsubato page I used (I think I uploaded it myself on the image BBS) or of something more sophisticated ?

Heh, that's right, I remember you linked that at some perfect point in a thread, but I can't for the life of me remember when or if it was even on the new image board or not...I liked it, though.





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"Re(1):GS OBJECTION over the internet" , posted Sat 22 Oct 02:26post reply

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"Re(3):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 03:24post reply

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Eh whatever. That's pretty picky considering that the English script is generally refered to as a translation (no matter how inacurate it is). I don't think this is Samurai Pizza Cats where the original is thrown out and completely rewritten.

I see what you're saying, but I kinda think it's not worth arguing over.



You're right. I'm not really trying to argue so much as I'm trying to make a point. This is unavoidable for me, because I'm a professional scriptwriter and I'm always trying to point out details between the script and translation, because they ARE different things. Oh, how I argue about these things on shows I work on.

But I guess if I would have said "the translation isn't totally accurate, but at least it's well written" and everyone would know what I was talking about all the same. Regardless, when the characters aren't saying what the characters are supposed to be saying, then I have to say the translation isn't especially accurate.

I'm not trying to say that Phoenix Wright is an inferior experience to GS, just a bit different.





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"Re(4):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 03:33:post reply

I have to say, now that I have an 'assistant', the game has become 20x more annoying. Now, instead of having internal thoughts about things, and figuring crap out for myself, I have some ugly girl complaining she's hungry when I'm looking for clues, and saying HEY DOESN'T THAT LOOK SUSPICIOUS?

I mean every once in a while she gives up a useful hint, but man. I just don't want her there, she makes investigating take about three times as long, and her personality is just awful. It's seriously making me like the game a lot less, and I'm re-evaluating how much time I want to invest in it.

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"Re(5):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 03:46post reply

Is it just me, or is Exodus trying to maybe imply he never played GS until the US translation ?

Of course not. It's impossible. All the pants in the world couldn't save him if it was the case.





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"Re(6):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 03:52post reply

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Is it just me, or is Exodus trying to maybe imply he never played GS until the US translation ?

Of course not. It's impossible. All the pants in the world couldn't save him if it was the case.



He's too cool for video games.

I hate this. I import a game, and if I talk about it, no one is interested, because no one is playing it (except maybe Fuchikoma, but I don't want to talk to him, because he's a dirty scallywag). Then when it omes out in America, I've forgotten about it, or people use weird names for the characters I don't know. OR they seem to think the American version is better somehow.

And did nobody pick up Minstrel Song? What about Shadow of the Collosus? That's the motherfucking game of the year, damn it!!!!





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"Re(7):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 04:13post reply

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And did nobody pick up Minstrel Song? What about Shadow of the Collosus? That's the motherfucking game of the year, damn it!!!!



Well, yesterday afternoon, I had the choice between ordering Shadow of the Colossus and Minstrel Song.
And I picked Minstrel Song.
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"Re(8):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 04:31post reply

It'd true, I'd never played GS...

I can speak japanese ok, but as I think I've mentioned, I'm about as literate as a small child. I just never paid attention in school. like on my tests I'd just leave the kanji section blank and ace the rest of it in order to pass.

And I haven't gotten shadown of colossus - I've yet to figure out how to play the demo, and aside from that, it looks like the game has some frustrating bits in it, and a lot of just riding around looking for things and holding your sword up. I dunno, it's no Ico, far's I can tell. Fumito Ueda's a bit of a wackjob, besides.





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"Re(8):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 04:41post reply

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And I picked Minstrel Song.


YOU WHAT !?





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"Re(9):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 05:13post reply

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And I haven't gotten shadown of colossus - I've yet to figure out how to play the demo, and aside from that, it looks like the game has some frustrating bits in it, and a lot of just riding around looking for things and holding your sword up. I dunno, it's no Ico, far's I can tell. Fumito Ueda's a bit of a wackjob, besides.



Not so much riding around, no. I'm almost at the end and I've encountered 2 frustrating parts that remedy themselves fairly quickly (I kept getting stuck INSIDE one render, and another enemy just knocks you down too much). In my opinion, it's...well...I like it much more than ICO...much much more. I can't say it's better for -sure-, because it depends on your taste, but it's absolutely as good.

But you don't really LIKE video games, do you? The only thing I can figure out that you like is Korea, because you're always reporting on Korean things. Other than that, I can only imagine that you lead a completely empty life, pulled along by the puppet strings of awesomeosity.





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"Re(10):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 05:37:post reply

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But you don't really LIKE video games, do you?



It's a tough question, and indeed not many people pick up on that fact. I mean, yeah, I pretty much hate most of them, but there are just a few that I like enough to keep playing. And I sure do own a lot of the things for some reason. So, yes and no. I don't like them per se, but I regard them as interesting and unique enough to be compelled by them.

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The only thing I can figure out that you like is Korea, because you're always reporting on Korean things.


Actually I kind of don't like korea, even though I haven't been there. I'm just impressed by how they're pulling themselves up by the bootstraps to become a real international player.

The thing I actually like is music. But I can't play it, I never talk about it to anyone aside from one friend. I just...think about it, and make mental connections about grander patterns, which I then forget, and all go to waste. I listen to music about 10 hours of every day, and buy about 20 CDs per month, and attend about a concert per week, on average. Strange, eh?


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"Re(9):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 06:21post reply

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And I picked Minstrel Song.

YOU WHAT !?



Don't blame me, blame the system





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"Re(4):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 11:30post reply

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But I guess if I would have said "the translation isn't totally accurate, but at least it's well written" and everyone would know what I was talking about all the same.

Alternatively, you can comment on how good the localization is.

HOH!





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"ROLLING ON THE FLOOR STARVING" , posted Sat 22 Oct 14:37:post reply

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but begrudgingly!







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"Re(5):Sales figures" , posted Sat 22 Oct 23:42post reply

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Alternatively, you can comment on how good the localization is.
HOH!



Or one might say that the localization is a combination of the translation and script!

Also, Brandon...that's wonderful. Music is wonderful. If there's one thing I hate about my job, it's that it doesn't allow me to listen to music very often.





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"phoenix rising" , posted Wed 26 Oct 01:58post reply

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Or one might say that the localization is a combination of the translation and script!



Which I think is what he was saying, by extension.

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Also, Brandon...that's wonderful. Music is wonderful. If there's one thing I hate about my job, it's that it doesn't allow me to listen to music very often.



yeah, well I sit at a desk...perfect for musicness. Then I go home and listen to music, drive somewhere and listen to music...it's no wonder I spent $700 on CDs when I went to japan in september, and maybe $100 on games, half of which I intended to sell!

Anyway, about Phoenix Wright - the girl (maya) gets less annoying as things progress, and the DS exclusive trial has quite a pretty intro, with parallax scrolling and a 3D silhouette or two. I'm still enjoying the game, much to my surprise, and am now thinking of most conversations in terms of testimonies and evidence.





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"Re(1):phoenix rising" , posted Wed 26 Oct 06:48:post reply

Very soon.







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"Re(1):phoenix rising" , posted Wed 26 Oct 22:45post reply

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...it's no wonder I spent $700 on CDs when I went to japan in september, and maybe $100 on games, half of which I intended to sell!

You dropped 700 bones on old Fushitsusha albums? That's dedication.