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| Dr Baghead 3529th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):DoA movie trailer" , posted Thu 24 Nov 05:36
This is a somewhat legitmate question:
Does the 'Dead or Alive' series even have a storyline that makes sense to it?
Even "story mode" in the game is just your character screaming "GET OUT OF MY WAY!" at your next oppenent and them yelling "NO YOU GET OUT OF MY WAY!" then the round starts.
Then it's got some weird ass shit like clones, demonic powers, Ayane apparently has TWO fathers (unless Omega was Raidou, which is dumb), there's Tengus apparently, amensia, and Helena's parents are always being murdered by someone for whatever reason.
So is there an actual storyline? (something like a Mortal Kombat "Long ago Outworld tried to invade Earth, so they started Mortal Kombat to stop them, and it did! Now Liu Kang has to win or we're boned!" style set up, something other then "DoA is an invitation tournament with a cash prize!!!" which doesn't explain ANY of the crazy shit) If there's not doesn't the movie just have to be "Kasmui is a run away ninja, Ayane is her evil half-sister who wants to kill her." and it's perfectly acceptable?
Blanka and Dan make for a most excellent tag image (yeah still not funny)
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| Undead Fred 2547th Post
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| "Re(2):DoA movie trailer" , posted Thu 24 Nov 05:56
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This is a somewhat legitmate question:
Does the 'Dead or Alive' series even have a storyline that makes sense to it?
Even "story mode" in the game is just your character screaming "GET OUT OF MY WAY!" at your next oppenent and them yelling "NO YOU GET OUT OF MY WAY!" then the round starts.
Then it's got some weird ass shit like clones, demonic powers, Ayane apparently has TWO fathers (unless Omega was Raidou, which is dumb), there's Tengus apparently, amensia, and Helena's parents are always being murdered by someone for whatever reason.
So is there an actual storyline? (something like a Mortal Kombat "Long ago Outworld tried to invade Earth, so they started Mortal Kombat to stop them, and it did! Now Liu Kang has to win or we're boned!" style set up, something other then "DoA is an invitation tournament with a cash prize!!!" which doesn't explain ANY of the crazy shit) If there's not doesn't the movie just have to be "Kasmui is a run away ninja, Ayane is her evil half-sister who wants to kill her." and it's perfectly acceptable?
There's enough of a story to start from, but I know this- it's not Charlie's Angels VS. armies of ninjas defeated with OH NO YOU DIDNT lines. If they can actually get the feel of the characters down, then it could work, but so far it looks awful.
People were saying the same thing about Doom when the Doom movie trailers and stuff were out, "there isnt a story to the game LOL!!!" but the movie can still get it horribly, horribly wrong even when the story to the game's a little thin (even though they could have made the movie from Doom 3's story and had plenty to go from, but that's another issue). I mean, SF2 didn't really have any in-game story other than backstories and stuff you could read about and the characters' endings, but that doesn't mean they can't make a mess of the live-action movie.
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| Dr Baghead 3530th Post
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| "Re(5):DoA movie trailer" , posted Sat 26 Nov 17:57
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DoA HAS ugly fashion.
I don't know... some of the normal clothes are actually kinda nice (and no, for once I'm not being a sarcastic asshole, I seriously think costumes they copied from GAP catalogs look good, at least compared to "Christie with weird jaw bones knee pads" and "Fugly Anime half-jackets for Tina and Jan Lee!")...
and in DoAU like ever guy but Hayabusa had a HELLA DAPPER suit (and really, given how dapper those suits are and DoAX is basically "let's play dress up! Warning: May contain fustrating mini-games/dating sim preventing you from enjoying playing Dress up" I'm really surprised they haven't consider selling the series to chicks more... I mean, does Tecmo USA style ads of "Hey Look! BIG OL BOOBIES!!!! GRAP SOME KLEENX!!!" make the series sell so well they couldn't get a small boost by put ads in Shoujo Beat being like "Jan Lee is kinda hot, eh? He has no less then 4 shirtless costumes and 3 where he wears very expensive looking suits. How bout Ein? He's wearing unbuttoned red leather pants and shackles..." or "Okay look, the cover has 3 girls in tiny bikinis, but there's some clothes real people wear somewhere in the game... I think Kasumi or Hitomi or something has them, like shorts and skirts and 1 pieces and shit like that... plus you can paint their nails and put flowers in their hair!" but I degress...)
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Itagaki said something stupid like "we're not fashion designers" in reference to people's demands for more costumes. I think that says something about their design staff.
Where did he say that?! and more to the point, can that man do an interview WITHOUT some 'crazy nonsense/ easy to misread/ calling Namco's game shitty while not making DoA any better or even making the same flawless he's putting them down for' quotes coming out of his mouth?
you'd think Tecmo would have assigned him a handler to stop him from saying such things.
Blanka and Dan make for a most excellent tag image (yeah still not funny)
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| Pollyanna 1513th Post
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| "Re(6):DoA movie trailer" , posted Sun 27 Nov 04:41
Dr. Baghead:
It's impossible for me to say where I heard the quote from Itagaki, since the man does like...5 interviews a week, but it might have been in the Team Ninja Special that 1up.com did. I think it's a good thing for business that he says so much stupid crap, though, because he demands so much attention. Even if he lies and contradicts himself, people will still listen...and that's publicity.
But you've made a point. DoA doesn't have all ugly fashion, but most of it is still poor. Putting a guy in a suit doesn't make for good fashion DESIGN, even if it isn't ugly. Ein's "cool" costume is a plain design based on what is "supposed" to be cool. There's nothing interesting about that.
But I'm not just trying to insult DoA here. I actually LIKE DoA, I just don't like its aesthetics. I like fashion and interesting design, and the DoA designs on the whole are either concept-based, totally tacky, or unintersting. When I look at what the characters are wearing, I say "I would NEVER wear that, even if I was a sexy superpowered martial artist fighting in an international tournament" (because in that scenario, you wear whatever you want).
But everyone has different tastes, and not everyone is a snob like me about things like that. Lots of people can watch anime with gaudy, ill-matching color pallates and not even notice. They can see characters that break the most basic design/color principles and not care. If someone says "who the hell CARES if the fashion in DoA is good?" then I can't really argue, but I will argue that the overall character/costume design is weak.
Oh, but...well...DOAX is actually the exception, since they -did- have a team of designers for the swimsuits in that, and it showed.
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| kilvear
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| "Re(1):DoA movie trailer" , posted Sun 27 Nov 14:03:
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http://rapidshare.de/files/7878015/DOA_TEASER_FINAL.mov.html
I MIGHT see it just for Kevin Nash, but I don't know for sure if I could sit through this movie.
This movie needs more OPAI!
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| Dr Baghead 3531th Post
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| "Re(2):Oh god.." , posted Wed 30 Nov 11:44
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Link Here.
I already hate the movie because Christie looks nothing like (and seems to act nothing like) Christie!
Also, isn't Kevin Nash a little young to play Bass? Maybe he'll be Tina's brother or cousin... or just drop all pretense and admit he's her lover, as it's been implied in every game he's in.... Speaking of Bass, has anyone ever seen "Hogan Knows Best" I find it very odd Hulk has a mildly attractive blonde daughter who wants to be singer. Is this life immating art (if you can call DoA art... and reality TV life) or did Itagaki know about Hogan's family when making DoA2?!
.... at least since Itagaki isn't one to hid his true opinions in interviews we'll get hear the creator actual say how horrible they thought the movie was... or maybe he's so insane he'll be all like "I enjoyed the part where Christie, Tina, and Kasumi went to the Burger King and Christie orders 3 jumbo burgers, 3 large fires, 3 onion rings, 3 large chocolate shakes, and 3 apple pies and then... get this... ASK THE OTHER TWO IF THEY WANT ANYTHING?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Get it, the movie made it seem like she was ordering for everone but really she's over eating!! but she's in shape so it's funny not sad because she's killing herself slowly with food!" either way it'd be fun to read!
Blanka and Dan make for a most excellent tag image (yeah still not funny)
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| Dr Baghead 3532th Post
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| "Re(4):Oh god.." , posted Wed 30 Nov 15:20
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And Kasumi, and Helena, and Ayane... etc. etc. etc.
eh, I don't care about them... I was just indifferent towards the movie when I thought it was just Kasumi, Ayane, and Tina but knowing they're destorying the only good character makes me join the "I hate it already" club.
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I'm still wondering how Kasumi and Ayane are supposed to be connected though, since for all of these years, I pretty sure that they were sisters. Maybe they had a recessive white gene in their family that Ayane picked up.
They're half sisters... it's not impossible they just decided to make Raidou a white guy in the movie universe, and although unlikely if he was White then Ayane could look white herself (well it IS impossible since he's Kasumi's fathers brother, unless their father or mother was white and Ayane is an extremely unlikely genetic fluke... but whatever, it sorta makes sense if you don't think about it)
Blanka and Dan make for a most excellent tag image (yeah still not funny)
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| Undead Fred 2559th Post
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| "Re(8):Oh god.." , posted Thu 1 Dec 06:11:
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Whoops, Sorry about the confusion Fred. I meant that this Ryu Hayabusa, both from DOA and the new Ninja Gaiden has no relevant connection towards the old Ninja Gaiden of the NES series. Both the DOA and new Ninja Gaiden one are the same characters I believe just not connected to past games.
As for the costumes I suppose those were made for those hardcore fans who remember the old nes series
Ah, okay. That's still really weird, though. I hate it when they do that kind of thing... "I know it looks like a chicken, smells like a chicken, tastes like a chicken, and has 'chicken' written on it... BUT I SAY THAT IS NOT A CHICKEN" Why aren't they the same guy, did they say? I hope it's not for some stupid reason like "well, if it were the same guy, he'd be too old!"
EDIT: Grammar.
[this message was edited by Undead Fred on Thu 1 Dec 06:11] |
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