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| exodus 3428th Post
 
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|  "Re(3):American Remake of Battle Royale" , posted Tue 20 Jun 03:41
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Magnificent Seven was a good movie though.
that wasn't a remake, that was a similar story, appropriately themed, and more importantly, not named the same.
this will be a total redux with chinese people thrown in it, probably speaking english, and nobody will know the damn difference.
zhang ziyi being the main character in memoirs of a geisha, as much as I like her, was ridiculous. so yeah. I hope it bombs, bombs, bombs - though of course it won't because everyone's stupid.
kurosawa's son has nothing to do. he licensed seven samurai for that shit sammy game as well. he should learn how to do something for himself!
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| Maese Spt 264th Post
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| "Re(4):American Remake of Battle Royale" , posted Wed 21 Jun 02:34:
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this will be a total redux with chinese people thrown in it, probably speaking english, and nobody will know the damn difference.
zhang ziyi being the main character in memoirs of a geisha, as much as I like her, was ridiculous. so yeah. I hope it bombs, bombs, bombs - though of course it won't because everyone's stupid.
kurosawa's son has nothing to do. he licensed seven samurai for that shit sammy game as well. he should learn how to do something for himself!
My thoughts exactly. Kurosawa's son is managing very poorly his fahter's legacy. What a shame.
The whole "Samurai 7" thing was just terrible, and thanks heavens that wacky theme park project finally fell into oblivion... but this crazy remake tempative is too much. Holy shit, I've even heard Goerge Clooney's is going to play Shimada Kanbei!! Zhang Ziyi and Donnie Yen were bad enough, but this would be ludicrous beyond redemption.
By the way, that's what A.J. Bryant, a somewhat reputable historian and expert on japanese stuff, thinks about this mess:
You know, when they did a remake of "Poseidon Adventure" (POSDEIDON frikkin' ADVENTURE, for God's sake!) I knew we were in trouble. I've now seen commercials for a remake of "The Omen" -- a still effective film that is in NO WAY needing of a remake -- that I knew Hollywood truly was bankrupt.
But this? THIS?
Hollywood has gone right past bankrupt into insane degeneracy.
They HAVE to be insane, because this has the earmarks of any typically written PARODY of a Hollywood film construction.
"Hey, let's make a remake of the film widely considered to be the best motion picture in the history of the world!"
"Great idea, HW!"
"But let's make it more current, wider appeal."
"Great idea, HW!"
"We need a face."
"Tom Cruise?"
"Been done. Besides, he wants too much moolah up front."
"Good point, HW!"
"Course it's a good point. Clooney! We'll put in Clooney!"
"Brilliant, HW!"
I myself don't know wether to cry or to lol...but poor Akira must be revolving on his grave, that's for sure.
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MATSUKEN SAMBA!!!
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| Undead Fred 2701th Post
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| "Re(5):American Remake of Battle Royale" , posted Fri 23 Jun 19:36
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By the way, that's what A.J. Bryant, a somewhat reputable historian and expert on japanese stuff, thinks about this mess:
You know, when they did a remake of "Poseidon Adventure" (POSDEIDON frikkin' ADVENTURE, for God's sake!) I knew we were in trouble. I've now seen commercials for a remake of "The Omen" -- a still effective film that is in NO WAY needing of a remake -- that I knew Hollywood truly was bankrupt.
But this? THIS?
Hollywood has gone right past bankrupt into insane degeneracy.
They HAVE to be insane, because this has the earmarks of any typically written PARODY of a Hollywood film construction.
"Hey, let's make a remake of the film widely considered to be the best motion picture in the history of the world!"
"Great idea, HW!"
"But let's make it more current, wider appeal."
"Great idea, HW!"
"We need a face."
"Tom Cruise?"
"Been done. Besides, he wants too much moolah up front."
"Good point, HW!"
"Course it's a good point. Clooney! We'll put in Clooney!"
"Brilliant, HW!"
EXCELLENT quote. It sums it up very nicely... Hollywood's gone way past creative bankruptcy and I know I'm not the only one that doesn't appreciate the unnecessary remakes. I'd like to start a movement and create awareness of this problem so that Hollywood would stop defiling the classics and make their own content for once instead of cranking out masturbatory sequels and remakes... but what I'm GONNA do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then BEND OVER AND TAKE IT UP THE TAILPIPE!!!
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| Ikari Loona
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| "Re(3):Battle Royale" , posted Sun 25 Jun 02:27
VS put it quite nicely above - my view on the whole point is pretty close to that, only I tend to see it more like an extreme exageration of some dog-eat-dog dynamics of the world, where someone only gains something if somebody else loses something else, with the random objects everybody gets replacing things like the financial situation one is born into as a starting point in life - all in this rather nice scenarion where it's not hard to imagine people getting along in other circumstances.
I got to watch the movie version before anything else (not knowing anything about it back then, so even the general pot of it was a bit of a surprise), and I did enjoy it and found it a powerful experience.
I eventually ordered the book and it was interesting to see that
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Kiriyama and Kawada were actually part of the original class, which further emphasized the whole point, and that Kiriyama wasn't as much doing it for kicks than siply doing as was expected of him with machine-like efficiency, which can be seen in a way as what whatever powers-that-be would rather have everyone acting like
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I do not reccomend the manga, especially not the english Tokyopop version, because twisting the plot to turn it into a TV gameshow not only messes up the purpose of the whole thing, it also blinds you to whatever the characters were saying that ended up being replaced for references to said televised version.
That, and several scenes and backstory dragged on for way too long with too much repetition - there's also some twisted focus on showing gruesome bloody shots, yet at the same time being getting shot in all sorts of places tend to look like cheese sculptures where somebody poked their fingers, regardless of the related areas of the characters' anatomies having bone under the skin or fabric above it... Oh, and they made sure that most scenes with Mitsuko seem like something out of some ecchi manga.
What really bothered me though is that
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they completely changed Sugimura and Kotohiki's meeting: the original version where emotionally powerful, since Sugimura liked her and put a lot of effort finding her - and then she shoots him because she practically didn't know him since they never talked before and she was afraid; the manga made some half-assed backstory for them to justify a happier meeting and tossed in Kiriyama to finish them both off in an almost DBZ-ish battle.
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Making Sugimura a martial artist helped some previous scenes, but this cancels a lot of the impact of the original.
Do not spend money on the manga if you know what's good for you - I did, and once I was done with the whole thing I donated the whole collection to this anime and manga club nearby so that nobody there had to spend money on the thing.
I can undertand some of the changes that were made for the japanese movie version, but I'd rather not think of what Hollywood will be capable of inflicting on it...
"Beat the machine that works in your head!" - Guano Apes "Open Your Eyes"
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"Re(7):American Remake of Battle Royale" , posted Fri 23 Jun 23:37
