"valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 07:49
I know at least Rid must be one.
I just discovered that telnet japan actually remade the original with new 2D graphics and a costume collecting system.
naturally, it's for mobile. Even so, I got excited for a moment!
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Evenor
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"Re(1):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 08:18
Valis IV was really fun. I was addicted to it one random summer in Nicaragua. I never beat it due to its nauseating difficulty.
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Pollyanna
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"Re(2):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 08:44
I need to go back and play the Valis games to see if I like them or not. I was completely crazy for them when I was a kid. I love how the Cosmic Fantasy characters were on the SD Valis cover.
Rid
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"Re(1):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 09:01:
Why mobile T_T
First Athena, now this...
They hate me, I'm sure next are Twinkle Tale and Magical Pop'n cellphone sequels just to made me cry.
[this message was edited by Rid on Sat 15 Jul 09:02]
Nate
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"Re(2):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 09:50
quote: Valis IV was really fun. I was addicted to it one random summer in Nicaragua. I never beat it due to its nauseating difficulty.
Let me tell you, beating Super Valis IV (not sure if you're talking about the same game, because the original version was a lot better) was one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever had. Totally not worth it for the like...THREE screens of ending and text you get.
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Zepy
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"Re(3):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 13:31
Valis fans should just look at the Valis X series and realise that Valis is dead.
(Not work safe)
Red Falcon
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"Re(1):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 14:42
As usual, my hopes are raised and then dashed to the ground.
quote: Valis fans should just look at the Valis X series and realise that Valis is dead.
(Not work safe)
Wait so they turned Valis into an ero game?
FUCK YOU JAPAN
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exodus
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"Re(4):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 16:18:
quote: Valis fans should just look at the Valis X series and realise that Valis is dead.
oh no...
I had no idea. that really makes me sad. to me this is like taking the super mario bros series and making a real princess peach eroge.
I wonder how the original creator feels? maybe he's happy just to get royalties.
[edit] not only that, it's a BUDGET eroge. under 3,000 yen! is that all my childhood is worth? I guess so...
[this message was edited by exodus on Sat 15 Jul 16:22]
Iggy
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"Re(3):valis fans?" , posted Sat 15 Jul 16:45
quote: I need to go back and play the Valis games to see if I like them or not. I was completely crazy for them when I was a kid.
I used to love the game, but I'm sure it's better not to come back and confront my memories with the harsh truth.
Valis X mades me weep in my sleep.
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"Re(4):valis fans?" , posted Sun 16 Jul 02:29
Holy shit, it's Valis porn! I knew it had to exist somewhere! Nice find, guys. Now, to bootleg the games ..... :-D
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Abster
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"Re(5):valis fans?" , posted Sun 16 Jul 03:58
Valis will be stained forever by this series, literally.
hikarutilmitt
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"Re(6):valis fans?" , posted Sun 16 Jul 15:50
quote: Valis will be stained forever by this series, literally.
Yeah, it's one of those things that you would think wouldn't be so bad in most cases, but the fact that it's hentai and has pretty crummy art and just has an otherwise incredibly generic feel to it just... ugh.
I'd kill for a(nother) 2D remake of Valis 1 or even Valis 4. Then again, I'd be perfectly happy with a collection for a modern console. The 4 PCECD games, the original version of 1 (whichever they want to put on there, maybe the MSX version rather than the PCXX) and SD Valis wouldn't be THAT hard to do right.
Would it?
NARUTO
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"Re(7):valis fans?" , posted Sun 16 Jul 18:23
I did like the Valis series, even If I don't remember which one I did play or not...>_< The only I rememeber are the SD valis on Genesis, who was fun, and an other one where you have 3 Characters. The original Valis girl, A short red-haired girl, and a huge dude un a white armor... This one was great too...
Fortes fortuna juvat...
Abster
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"Re(7):valis fans?" , posted Sun 16 Jul 18:58
quote: Yeah, it's one of those things that you would think wouldn't be so bad in most cases, but the fact that it's hentai and has pretty crummy art and just has an otherwise incredibly generic feel to it just... ugh.
I'd kill for a(nother) 2D remake of Valis 1 or even Valis 4. Then again, I'd be perfectly happy with a collection for a modern console. The 4 PCECD games, the original version of 1 (whichever they want to put on there, maybe the MSX version rather than the PCXX) and SD Valis wouldn't be THAT hard to do right.
Would it?
I heard that the PCECD Valis games are getting ports to the PC, so that sheds a little bit of light to those who can't get access to earlier systems down there.
But I agree with the art quality. It looks like crap for the most part and I heard some of the voices are pretty bad as well.
What I find odd is how Telnet would actually give them permission to use their characters like this for profit. It's like the Valis characters have become prostitutes or something.
I hope the same thing doesn't happen with Wolfteam's Earnest Evans series. (Annet from El Viento most specifically) With Wolfteam disbanding from Telenet in the mid 90s though she won't be as easy to reach.
Pollyanna
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"Re(8):valis fans?" , posted Sun 16 Jul 20:08
quote: What I find odd is how Telnet would actually give them permission to use their characters like this for profit. It's like the Valis characters have become prostitutes or something.
Right! And what does this say to an innocent young fan such as myself? It seems like yesterday when I was wearing my golden metal bikini top and swinging an imaginary sword...but tomorrow, I may be prostituting myself, even though I'm still in highschool!
I'm surprised, though. I thought more people would be like "yeah, score!"
Ahhh...all this is making me think about Cosmic Fantassyyyyyy! Ah, the sweet memories!
Bata kun
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"Re(2):valis fans?" , posted Sun 16 Jul 23:05
quote:Why mobile T_T
First Athena, now this...
They hate me, I'm sure next are Twinkle Tale and Magical Pop'n cellphone sequels just to made me cry.
Mobile is like a big thing over there.
Oh and what else needs to be said about "Valis"? Besides, Japanese companies love killing their series in a bad way anyway. So, what else is new?
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"Re(9):valis fans?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 00:45
quote: I'm surprised, though. I thought more people would be like "yeah, score!"
Probably because of how screwed up the notion of a company doing that to their own IP is. It would be like if SNKP decided to start doing Saigado's work for them...
CHAZumaru
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"Re(10):valis fans?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 00:49
Valis died with Wolfteam, in my book.
And didn't we talk about Valis X on this BBS earlier this year?
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exodus
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"valis pc remake?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 12:05
quote: I heard that the PCECD Valis games are getting ports to the PC
where did you hear this?
I don't know if we talked about valis X on this board before, but iggy and I don't remember! That means it didn't happen.
Abster
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"Re(1):valis pc remake?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 13:21
quote: I don't know if we talked about valis X on this board before, but iggy and I don't remember! That means it didn't happen.
I heard a rumor about this some while ago. I thought it came from something announced on the Valis X website. I can't confirm or deny this rumor.
Red Falcon
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"Re(2):valis pc remake?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 13:33:
quote: I heard a rumor about this some while ago. I thought it came from something announced on the Valis X website. I can't confirm or deny this rumor.
Well, it would be good if that rumour was true. I'm all for porn, but I too am disappointed that Telenet did this to them. The only good thing I can say about it is that I like Rogures' redesign. Grames and Megas look awful, though. Whatever happened to Megas' original HUGE self? (I used to use that art as an avatar here.. come to think of it, I think I will again. Right now!)
edit: is there something wrong with me if the first thing I do on a site like that is run to look at the villains? And yes, I would be very VERY upset of the company actually SOLD OUT Annet. It's one thing about doujin, but something seems fundamentally wrong with the actual company "selling them". On a more positive note, anyone here ever play Annet Futatabi?
[this message was edited by Red Falcon on Mon 17 Jul 13:36]
Abster
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"Re(3):valis pc remake?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 13:47
quote: edit: is there something wrong with me if the first thing I do on a site like that is run to look at the villains? And yes, I would be very VERY upset of the company actually SOLD OUT Annet. It's one thing about doujin, but something seems fundamentally wrong with the actual company "selling them". On a more positive note, anyone here ever play Annet Futatabi?
I have. The cinematics and music are great but the gameplay itself is crap.
Freeter
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"Re(3):valis pc remake?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 14:08
quote: On a more positive note, anyone here ever play Annet Futatabi?
The one where Annet gets thrown into a coliseum, fights Paul Bunyan and stops the evil cyborg shapeshifting mutant bad guys with the power of love?
...yeah, guess I have.
NARUTO
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"Re(2):valis fans?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 16:52
quote: Why mobile T_T
First Athena, now this...
They hate me, I'm sure next are Twinkle Tale and Magical Pop'n cellphone sequels just to made me cry.
No they plan something worst like a full Sengoku Taisen "best of"... Mobile of course...
Fortes fortuna juvat...
Iggy
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"Re(10):valis fans?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 17:37
quote:It would be like if SNKP decided to start doing Saigado's work for them...
To be frank, there is a possibility SNK would be going this way. From now, they have two options : either games like KOF MI manage to be successful and gather a new public to SNK, or they fail and SNK stays with the same ever shriking audience, aging and interested in the same characters they jerked upon when they were teenagers.
Days Of Memories might very well be the premise of such an evolution.
CHAZumaru
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"Re(1):valis pc remake?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 20:23
quote: I don't know if we talked about valis X on this board before, but iggy and I don't remember! That means it didn't happen.
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Ishmael
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"Re(2):valis pc remake?" , posted Mon 17 Jul 22:55
The whole Valis X thing puts me in mind of when starlets who are past their sell-by date appear in Playboy. There's a sad air of desperation surrounding the whole project since you have the feeling this is the final means the subject has for staying in the limelight for just a moment longer. Since I suspect Iggy is correct about the eventual fate of the SNKP properties we'll probably be having this same conversation again in the not too distant future.
exodus
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"Re(2):valis pc remake?" , posted Tue 18 Jul 01:41
oho! well nobody ever told ME about it! feh! I'll post about it later anyway.
And what's this about the annet game?
Abster
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"Re(3):valis pc remake?" , posted Tue 18 Jul 06:30
quote: And what's this about the annet game?
Annet Futatabi was a Japanese only Mega CD game which was a sequel to El Viento, set during the WW2 era. The gameplay is a lot like Golden Axe in that it's a beat em up with full screen magic attacks. The gameplay is crap though. About half the time you're waiting for the bad guys to get onto the screen just so you can hit them. The cinematics and music are great though, and graphics aren't too bad.
On another note, I heard that the Valis PC ports have been out well before Valis X did.