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Mokona 402th Post
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| "Re(6):Spider-Man 3 and other superhero stuff" , posted Tue 8 May 05:19
I agree with the general vibe we're getting here. While I was entertained to a certain level, the movie was a let down on so many levels. And I'm not even a comics fan.
I'll put the rest of my opinion in spoiler tags just in case.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - Kirsten Dunst was really not that rgeat in the first two movies, but she outdid herself in the suckiness here. It was painful to watch her crappy acting to the point that I almost took her in pity. And the singing was god awful. Tobey Maguire was consistent with his previous performances as Spidey, but brought nothing more to the mix. His evil side as Parker was more of a jerk side, and as Spidey, he wasn't really that different. I mean, in my eyes, it wasn't really the black suit that got rid of Sandman in the Sewers, it's just Spidey's rage. I'm pretty sure he would have reacted the same way in the regular suit.
Sandman's creation was one of the most WTF moments ever. We apparently don't need to know what the hell that machine was all about. Kinda the same as the symbiote just falling from the sky, conveniently feet away from Parker. There were a lot of moments that felt exactly like that, convenient: Harry's amnesia, his butler magically being a witness about his dad not being murdered by Spiderman and having shut his damn mouth about it all along, Brock going in the exact same place and at the exact same time when Parker decides to get rid of the symbiote, etc.
I also wasn't impressed by Bruce Campbell's cameo. Maybe it's because I'm French, but I didn't buy him as a French maitre d.
Same for JJJ. His comical bit with the secretary was lame as hell IMO.
I didn't really mind Harry teaming up with Peter in the end, because I thought the final 2-on-2 fight was amazing, but the rest of the ending felt really awkward.
All in all, the movie delivered on the pop-corn summer flick side, but Raimi made us expect more with Spiderman 2, and we were not given the same degree of polish and quality overall.
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Undead Fred 2832th Post
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| "CRAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIN" , posted Tue 8 May 09:45
Yeah, I had a lot of similar WTF moments... they just really didn't stop to explain much of anything, and if they did, it was the most convenient solution. Would have been nice if they hadn't tried to cram 10 pounds of potatoes in a 5 pound sack.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - I liked Bruce Campbell's cameo, personally. It wasn't nearly as good as his other cameos, but since none of the characters felt polished at all in the movie, his cameo worked the same way. It still made me laugh, and especially because I was thinking, "Well, that's not the best French accent" and Bruce had a line or two where he kept harping on how he was French to make sure the audience remembered. It was like a crappy doctor character that keeps reminding the audience that he's a doctor just because he's wearing a stethescope.
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The emo Peter Parker stuff lost me pretty badly during that portion of the movie, too. It's like having a goth character in a very mainstream movie back in the 90's. The audience would go "eww..." and take a step back. Pretty bad choice. It did make me want to go to YTMND to see what they did with that, though.
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Just a Person 892th Post
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| "Re(6):The movie thread now with more Street F" , posted Wed 9 May 20:24
quote: Just get Jackie Chan to do it. He's done it before...
Heh, that's true. I remember seeing a trailer of this movie when I was a child, and my thoughts were: "Damn, this actress looks like a man..." (I didn't know who Jackie Chan was at the time...).
As for the matter of having US actresses in order to get a better movie, well, Lucy Liu is from USA, isn't she? Not sure about Devon Aoki, but she seems to be North-American as well (although her acting skills aren't really impressing). Physically, both are much more logical choices than Jessica Biel, and when we consider acting skills, Lucy Liu seems to be a much better actress than Biel, IMO.
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Just a Person 893th Post
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| "Re(7):The movie thread now with more Street F" , posted Thu 10 May 21:08
quote: Yeah, what the hell happened with that...
Like it's finished right? I wouldn't think they'd be doing post and reshoots 7 months after it's intended release, so it must be one of those REALLY crappy movies (well obiously) studios hide in a vault for several years until they decide they'd rather make SOME money off it instead of eat the entire cost.
Are they sitting on it until the next DoA game comes out hoping the cross market synergy will get people to buy a ticket to see a shitty movie based on the mildly-shitty game they're buying? Like what chance in hell does the movie have of generating interest?
... they should release it direct to DVD and have a commentary of Itagaki (with English subtitles) saying how ulterly shitty he thinks everything is, how it rapes his creative vision, and how wrong they got everything, you know like the audiobook version of his next EGM interview... I'd pay $25 to watch that again and again!
Actually, it WAS released. Well, not sure about the USA, but here in my city I've already seen the DVD box in a location store (plus, some magazines commented about the movie). Never had the interest to borrow it, though.
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Olivier Hague 87th Post
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| "Re(6):The movie thread now with more Street F" , posted Fri 11 May 19:45:
quote: Can you tell us what you read from the script? I am curious what they have planned.
I didn't read it myself, I just heard from somebody who did. Maybe I shouldn't be too specific, but I believe he/she's far from being the only one who read that script, so I guess it should be OK to talk a bit about it... Besides, maybe they rewrote or simply abandoned that turd already, who knows...
Basically, it's "Lara Croft: Tomb Raider". I think that should already give you a good general idea right there. There's even some "OMG, the password to my father's computer was in my pendant all along!" BS.
Also, I seem to remember there's a grand total of 3 (three) characters from the "Street Fighter" franchise: Chun-li, M. Bison/Vega (the dictator one, I mean) and... Charlie/Nash. Of all people. I guess there might be a 4th character I forgot about. I'm not sure. I don't think so.
And the script is just so filled with references to US blockbusters it's depressing. When Chun-li first encounters her "old master type", I was thinking the screenwriter would immediately reference "Kill Bill"'s Pai-Mei, which would probably be the hack's only exposure to that kind of character. How naive of me. He's an OBI-WAN-type character, naturally!
(of course, I didn't know/imagine they would cast a caucasian actress for the main role at the time I heard all that, so I guess that last point does make more sense in retrospect... in a really, really weird way...)
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ZamIAm 1607th Post
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| "Re(7):The movie thread now with more Street F" , posted Mon 14 May 10:38
quote: Can you tell us what you read from the script? I am curious what they have planned.
I didn't read it myself, I just heard from somebody who did. Maybe I shouldn't be too specific, but I believe he/she's far from being the only one who read that script, so I guess it should be OK to talk a bit about it... Besides, maybe they rewrote or simply abandoned that turd already, who knows...
Basically, it's "Lara Croft: Tomb Raider". I think that should already give you a good general idea right there. There's even some "OMG, the password to my father's computer was in my pendant all along!" BS.
Also, I seem to remember there's a grand total of 3 (three) characters from the "Street Fighter" franchise: Chun-li, M. Bison/Vega (the dictator one, I mean) and... Charlie/Nash. Of all people. I guess there might be a 4th character I forgot about. I'm not sure. I don't think so.
And the script is just so filled with references to US blockbusters it's depressing. When Chun-li first encounters her "old master type", I was thinking the screenwriter would immediately reference "Kill Bill"'s Pai-Mei, which would probably be the hack's only exposure to that kind of character. How naive of me. He's an OBI-WAN-type character, naturally!
(of course, I didn't know/imagine they would cast a caucasian actress for the main role at the time I heard all that, so I guess that last point does make more sense in retrospect... in a really, really weird way...)
That sounds...retarded. BTW, DOA is on schedule for being snuck in during the summer for a theatrical release.
And while I can see what could make people mad, I actually enjoyed most of SM3 (including emo Peter's dance sequence).
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GekigangerV 1345th Post
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| "The Joker from the next Batman movie" , posted Mon 21 May 09:59
quote: Well, just learn not to trust Hollywood with stories that you like. There are very few directors/ writers that even think to try and capture the source material with any degree of respect. If you hear "re-imagined" or "new vision" or any other variation of the phrase come up when they're talking about the movie, then don't see it unless you REALLY didn't like the source material to begin with. The only reason that they keep cranking out these movies is that people keep falling for the same old trick. "They made a Bloodrayne movie?? Sweet!" People don't think to find out who the director is to see if it's someone they like, or listen to any of the pre-release buzz garbage to figure things out. Too late, they've got your money now. Heh heh.
If it's a director that SAYS they're trying extra hard to stick to the spirit of the source material, then approach carefully. Sometimes they actually mean what they say and you'll be pleasantly surprised. I'm sure this is all obvious to a lot of you, but I figured it still needed to be said.
Just to add on to that, after the two Resident Evil movies, Capcom probably thinks that they really don't need many of the main characters from the games to make a profitable movie.
Go
HERE
to see the first picture of the Joker. You have to give it minute for the pixels on the top image to disappear.
I am not digging the face, but hopefully the costume is good.
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kofoguz 535th Post
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| "Re(1):Spider-Man 3 and other superhero stuff" , posted Tue 22 May 17:22
I saw Spider-Man 3 last night. And I agree its kinda rushed but still better than X3. Also Its the first Spiderman movie that has the best atmosphere imo, and about acting.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - Some people is bitching for the sake of bitching. Kirsten Dunst Sings awfully eventhough in the movie she suppose to sing awfully, and thats a problem? I cant understand you guys sometimes. Do you want her to sing perfect than make us beleieve that M.J. get bad reviews from critics? ,wtfgoh,,*?
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About final scene of fighting
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - It was awesome, fantastic, no bitching person cant make me forget the taste of it. But there is one thing that disturbs me too. I beg Allah while I was watching the final battle, please Allah'ım dont let them ruin my hopes to see a sequel with harry and peter teaming up. Dont let them do the sacrifice clichee. I was 100% sure that was coming but hoping otherwise, unfortunately it came. Harry jump Peter's front to protect him. Its also anther WTF for me, why in the earth people do that in any other movie. If you can interfere you can absolutely go and push the victim or killer. Harry doesnt need to sacrifice himself he could push Venom.But Noooooo.
Also killing venom and Eddie Brock (I dont know if they're dead in the hollywood style) is like felt just for the sake of the final sandman scene. The "I killed your uncle accidentally you killed Eddie Brock accidentally so we're even" scene.
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I like the movie overall. Especially the atmosphere.
BTW to be educational could you guys be more specific when you dont like the "bad acting like hell" . I mean describing the part that they do wrong.
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