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Undead Fred 2923th Post
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| "Re(4):The game most Americans are playing rig" , posted Sun 30 Sep 02:54
I guess I'll be the only one to come forward and admit to playing it... I like first-person shooters (although, yeah, I'm starting to get sick of MILLIONS of FPS' releasing right now... I'm really looking forward to some other games).
When the original Halo came out and I didn't have an XBox, I kept hearing people getting way too excited about it and going on and on about it... I finally watched a little bit of the trip into the Library and really couldn't see what all the fuss was about. I eventually got the game with Christmas money ("Might as well take their word for it") and I finally saw what they were talking about. So I loved Halo 1. BUT... then Halo 2 came out. I was just getting spazzed all over by my cousin and doused in tons and tons of hype and got sick of the game before it was even out. Plus, the changes to the weapons turned me off to the game really quick: they chucked the most-used weapon in my arsenal out the window (assault rifle) and castrated my second most-used weapon (pistol) and were REALLY trying to force that stupid Battle Rifle on everyone. And I knew pretty much immediately that dual-wielding was gonna be mandatory in online play. And then there was the massive cheating issue that came up. So I didn't even get Halo 2 until late last year, and didn't play through it until Halo 3 had released (glad I didn't... that ending was some horrible Soul Reaver "got your money, see you in a few years!" endings).
Now Halo 3's out and I've started playing it. I was actually interested in playing it since the beta, since it looked like all of the things I didn't like about Halo 2's gameplay had been balanced or otherwise fixed, so I'm enjoying the game again. I do feel the game's still on that Star Wars level of obnoxiousness in terms of the fans of the game and the hype levels souring the experience for me, but at least I can enjoy 3.
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Undead Fred 2924th Post
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| "Re(6):The game most Americans are playing rig" , posted Sun 30 Sep 07:21
quote: Did you original get Halo 2 for the Player-vs-player component? I got it partly for that reason--but at that time, I was also looking for games that weren't fighting games. Thusly, I never cared about the weapons so much, though my brothers did. He kinda has the same complaints about Halo 3 (he laments the Sniper Rifle not being all-powerful anymore). I liken it to fighting games where certain characters are changed so that they are toned down (or less abusable).
I used to play Halo 1 locally only. I was pissed about Halo 2 since those weapon changes did affect the campaign mode (I hated being stuck with wimpy dual-wield-purposed SMG's and having the Battle Rifle as the default loadout and half of the weapons you find in the game). I still only really played 2 on local head-to-head matches, but I was complaining about the dual wielding stuff since I knew that if I ever did get online to play, it would just cause frustration (I didn't have Live at the time, but I was considering it). Like I said, though, I had tried the Halo 3 beta and really liked how it felt to play it. So, it's actually fun this time.
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nobinobita 156th Post
Regular Customer
| "Re(5):The game most Americans are playing rig" , posted Mon 1 Oct 07:02
Well, I was just talking about the US, and I was only referring to games that gamers would consider proper videogames.
There's alot of horrible skewed statistics out there.
For instance, when they say that there are hundreds of millions of online gamers out there and half of them are women, they are counting people playing free cell and poker and pictionary and flash games to pass the time.
Also, I wouldn't call Japanese launches irrelevant, but maybe i see what you mean. The US now has at least as big of a market as Japan does. It's probably bigger by now, though I don't have any proper research to back up that statement.
It is kinda weird though right? I mean, it used to be cool and neat and weird to hear about how even Japanese Adults and WOMEN line up to buy Dragon Quest!
Now you see the same thing happening here in the states (well, here for me, I know this is an international board, and I do understand how annoying it must be for everyone when people assume that the internet is just the United States).
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nobinobita 158th Post
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| "Re(4):The game most Americans are playing rig" , posted Mon 1 Oct 07:03:
quote: So the American newspapers are saying, but is this the case worldwide? Do we know how many copies on the first day/two days? I was wondering if it's beaten the (Japanese) Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest launches in the past.
Actually, that is a very good point. There were tens of millions of Super Famicoms sold, and those carts used to cost over a hundred bucks. I wonder if Halo really did break international records or not. Anyone feel like looking into this?
*update
OK here's what I could find for Japanese sales records:
http://www.samurainintendo.com/japan/historyranking.html
According to that site, Dragon Quest 3 sold 3.8 million copies in all. I dunno how much of that was on the first day, but it looks like Halo 3 probably sold more upon launch and will eventually out sell Dragon Quest.
It's not really a measure of quality though, so much as Microsoft just did everything in their power to make sure this game would break records. There are just more people in the world today, and also, companies like Microsoft have much closer, more sophisticated and measured relationships with retailers nowadays.
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Samson 117th Post
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| "Re(2):The game most Americans are playing rig" , posted Mon 1 Oct 22:21
I like FPSs I've played both Halo 1 and 2, and they sure are the best XBox FPS. None of them can compare to the big names for the PC. See ? I'm not a fanboy ;)
I bought Halo 3 knowing it's not the huge game the media want you to think it is. I've played 4 chapters of the campaign, and it's getting better and better. I've played a few online match and it's really pleasant. The maps are nice, and the gameplay is tight. I need to play more to make up my mind but for now, H3 is a good game, not the best game ever.
I finished The Darkness just before starting Halo. I'll remember this game ! So much details ! It realy puts you into the head of the character you play...the story is basicaly a vengence story, but I've never been so motivated to kill the bad guy ! And the ending is just great. Add nice graphics, perfect voice overs, mafia, demons and sneak kills...
Bioshock is a good game too, but having played system Shock 1 and 2 probably lessens the wow factor of the game. And I miss SHODAN ! :)
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Catalyst 315th Post
Bronze Customer
| "Re(3):The game most Americans are playing rig" , posted Tue 2 Oct 00:26
quote: I like FPSs I've played both Halo 1 and 2, and they sure are the best XBox FPS. None of them can compare to the big names for the PC. See ? I'm not a fanboy ;)
I bought Halo 3 knowing it's not the huge game the media want you to think it is. I've played 4 chapters of the campaign, and it's getting better and better. I've played a few online match and it's really pleasant. The maps are nice, and the gameplay is tight. I need to play more to make up my mind but for now, H3 is a good game, not the best game ever.
I finished The Darkness just before starting Halo. I'll remember this game ! So much details ! It realy puts you into the head of the character you play...the story is basicaly a vengence story, but I've never been so motivated to kill the bad guy ! And the ending is just great. Add nice graphics, perfect voice overs, mafia, demons and sneak kills...
I wish I had a chance to give Halo 3 a try but the only games on Xbox360 that have interest me are that, Gears of War and ninja gaiden 2. Not a strong enough conclusive decision to go out and buy one with not having enough money.
FPSers for me are nice I like as a once in a while dose not an every bit of a time, the last game I got to play for an FPS was Black, Black was fun to play along with Medal of Honor for PS3.
[offtopic] Samson if you like The Darkness, check out the comic the first volume is pretty cool. Not a big fan of the second volume, didn't like it at all. But it is a pretty awesome comic
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Spoon 1421th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
| "Re(4):The game most Americans are playing rig" , posted Tue 2 Oct 02:26
quote: The Darkness, check out the comic
I have a strange memory of "The Darkness". About a decade ago, I saw a TV show that discussed some comics that came out recently. One was "The Darkness", which the show said was kinda typical and gave it a rating of like 3/5. They followed that with something that was called "USA" (or something like that), which actually looked pretty cool and featured as the main character an old man named Uncle Sam, and said that the comic was amazing in terms of art and story: 5/5.
I can no longer remember what that show was, nor can I find that comic, because the combination of "uncle sam" "usa" and "comic" on google gives a gazillion results, none of which resemble what I saw. The Darkness, otoh, seems to have come back in the past few years, even though I remember hearing it ended in the 1990's.
Bioshock: this game teaches you that in a world gone mad, the unstoppable and relentless undead force is you. Nothing else in the game gets killed over and over again only to come back endlessly to chase down its victims with a wrench. Nevermind the gameplay, I think the game will be worth going through just to experience the sights, scripts, and story... and unlike RPGs, you don't have to spend 30 hours leveling.
Halo: Halo to me has always been a well-made FPS that worked without having to have to fuss with your drivers and such (as long as you're playing on Xbox). There's nothing inherently BAD about the game or its mechanics, and the game runs and plays well. It's just that to veterans of the PC FPS experience, it just feels like a well-made FPS and nothing terribly revolutionary.
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sfried 44th Post
Rare Customer
| "Re(1):Have to ask this too..." , posted Wed 24 Oct 10:28
quote: Is anyone playing Team Fortress 2? I tell you what: I am enjoying this game--probably the most fun I've had playing an FPS in a long time (maybe since Half-Life 2 or F.E.A.R.).
I would probably say the same thing, except it's Portal, not Team Fortress 2.
If anything, Portal deserves recognition: No weapons (save for Portal "gun"), no enemies (save for a few turrents), crazy level puzzles, and a few hours of solid fun plus suprise twist. What more could I ask for in a game? Well, more levels would do... (also has bonus levels, but I want zanier puzzles)
Screw HL2:Episode 2, Bioshock, and Halo 3. This is the only FPS that has managed to bring something to the table.
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