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| Professor 3234th Post
  
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|  "Re(1):Upkeep, battery issues for 16-bit carts" , posted Mon 12 Sep 21:40  
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Fellow games archeologists and carriers of the 16-bit torch: a friend and I were feeling pretty clever after we replaced the old, dying lithium ion batteries from our copies of Final Fantasy VI for Super Famicom and soldered some ones in. Thing is, I still have times when swapping carts in my SFC where the game won't load, and in certain horrifying instances, after blowing in the cart and console and powering on again, I've had a lost save file or two from this game, even though the battery is both new and securely in place.
Can dirty connectors on a cart or in the console knock out battery saves in the same way as a dying battery can? More generally, how have people cared for their old battery-save games here?
Good question, I never knew they needed sodering.
Blowing is strongly not recommended since it can cause corrosion!
With the old NES cartridges, battery backuped games were very fragile to electricity change and it wasn't too rare to lose data on power off. I wouldn't be surprised if very bad connection could cause the same effect.
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| Oh my
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| "Re(1):Upkeep, battery issues for 16-bit carts" , posted Tue 13 Sep 14:24
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Fellow games archeologists and carriers of the 16-bit torch: a friend and I were feeling pretty clever after we replaced the old, dying lithium ion batteries from our copies of Final Fantasy VI for Super Famicom and soldered some ones in. Thing is, I still have times when swapping carts in my SFC where the game won't load, and in certain horrifying instances, after blowing in the cart and console and powering on again, I've had a lost save file or two from this game, even though the battery is both new and securely in place.
Can dirty connectors on a cart or in the console knock out battery saves in the same way as a dying battery can? More generally, how have people cared for their old battery-save games here?
Wow cartridge surgery. I just can't imagine me doing such thing in one of my brothers games (anyway I don't need to). If I do, he would probably open my head and change my brain.
Anyway, so this mean that the memory on cartridge games are batteries and can it can be replace?
Because i got some issues with some gameboy cartridges. I wanted to play ff3 (known as one of those romancing saga series) and I got down when all my data disappear. Then when I started again, saved the game it didn't save the game at all.
Good to know this...
what?
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| Lugos
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| "Re(1):Upkeep, battery issues for 16-bit carts" , posted Thu 15 Sep 11:57:
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Can dirty connectors on a cart or in the console knock out battery saves in the same way as a dying battery can? More generally, how have people cared for their old battery-save games here?
I'm no electrical engineer, but it's possible that small particles of saliva fell onto your cartridge's metal pins when you blew on them. When the cart was plugged into your console and powered on, it's possible that that saliva may have triggered a small electrical spike, which could've corrupted your data.
If you're serious about keeping your carts around for years to come, you want consider placing them in your refridgerator. You see, prolonged exposure to heat hastens the death of lithium-ion batteries. On the other hand, prolonged exposure to the cold extends the life of lithium-ion batteries. So you could try placing them in an air-tight ziplock bag and putting the bag in your refridgerator. Try to keep as much air out of the bag as possible in order to reduce the amount of moisture the cart will get exposed to. The only caveat is that if you want to play the game again, you'll have to let the cart "thaw" out for an hour or so so that any condensation that might've accumulated within the cart can evaporate.
I currently do this with all my spare lithium-ion batteries and haven't had any problems, though I've never tried this with a cart. But I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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| "Re(4):Upkeep, battery issues for 16-bit carts" , posted Fri 16 Sep 13:47
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Did you follow some guidelines on the matter, or did you freeze up while holding the tools like a maiden on her first time when the time to opening the game came?
Oh, it was a group effort.  We are experienced...so to speak.
Since the battery should've been installed fine, I'm intrigued by the notion of faulty connectors and power surges. Every time I've lost a save on my SFC, it's been when I plug a cart in, turn it on, and it fails to boot. When I would re-start the system, or take the cart out and re-insert, those were the times of occasional data loss. Hmm!
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"Re(3):Upkeep, battery issues for 16-bit carts" , posted Fri 16 Sep 11:44
