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|  "Re(7):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 18:08:  
Quick recap of the KOF13 stuff that's happened at Evo-
Day 0 Mexico vs Korea exhibition matches
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby/b/323837934
Day 0 Kaoru vs Mr.KOF money matches
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18278547 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279091 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279161 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279365 - Nico
Day 1 Evening Money Matches
Results are at Orochinagi
http://orochinagi.com/2012/07/evo2012-mm-match-results
Note: Kaoru and the other Jp players apparently decided to money match playing cards amongst themselves rather than KOF. Seemed to make more money that way too.
Day 1 Tournament Results Summary
A more comprehensive results list than that on SRK is available here - http://kofkoucha.wordpress.com/
USA: Of the top 4 players, BALA, Reynald, Romance qualified. Mr.KOF qualified in losers. Other qualified players include The Answer, Combofiend, ChrisKOF, Kane317, Choysauce, David Kong, Dirty Sanchez, Metaphysics, Juicebox Abel, RealKim, TC Pepe, The Beast.
Mexico & Chile: Kane9999, Ricardo “Matharazo” Saavedra and Kenshintl qualified. Cubo qualifies in losers.
Japan: Kaoru, Kubo, Mago, Sange Tencho, Kyabetsu qualified. Kazunoko, Umezono qualifies in losers. Results for Haitani unknown.
Korea: MadKOF, Poogko, Verna, Lacid, and GUTS qualified. Pikachu and CafeID's translator qualifies in losers.
China: Dakou qualified. Xiaohai qualifies in losers (sent by MadKOF).
Taiwan: Ah Ren (Yang Yao Ren) qualified.
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| "Re(9):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 01:39
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I didn't get to watch much today, but...
This
is completely bonkers. Daigo with all those poorly placed dragon punches and miracle ultra wins. It's almost like he was taking damage on purpose to make the ultras hit harder, but...no way...that's too scary to think of.
I watched that match live, but my internet connection was poor, so it was quite an experience; I'd see Gamerbee get up a nice lead, then my stream would cut out, and suddenly I'd see a super KO screen with Ryu winning the round.
HumanBomb trading perfects with Poongko was crazy, as well.
The SF4AE top 8 includes:
Winners Bracket
Korea - WW.MCZ|Infiltration (Akuma, Gouken)
Japan - MCZ|Daigo Umehara (Ryu)
Hong Kong - HumanBomb (Sakura)
Puerto Rico/USA - CVPR|PR Balrog (Balrog)
Losers Bracket
Taiwan - AVerMedia|Gamerbee (Adon)
USA - BT|Dieminion (Guile)
China - eLivePro.Qanba|XiaoHai (Cammy)
Korea - TH|Poongko (Seth)
Latif, whose Viper was so impressive last year, failed to make top 8. He lost to top JP Yun player Kazunoko, and then was eliminated by Daigo. Daigo avenges his defeat last year by beating Latif.
No Yang players made it to top 32.
The fantastic JP Sakura/Viper player Uryo was eliminated by Mike Ross, who in turn was eliminated by the JP Bison player Dogura. Meanwhile, John Choi and Alex Valle made top 32 for the billionth time in their careers. Tokido surprisingly failed to make top 32, getting sent to losers by Eric Hai and then getting eliminated by Mago.
I really don't know who to cheer for in top 8. HumanBomb and Dieminion are the dark horses, but I just feel compelled to cheer for an HK rep. Daigo's ability to pull magical wins out of the most preposterous situations is wonderful. Poongko's Seth is a thrill to watch, especially when he gambles command throw after command throw and lands them because his opponent is terrified of his devastating combos and resets. If Xiaohai wins this and KOF, he'll definitely be one of the greatest EVO champions. And what if Infiltration wins it with Gouken? Goodness.
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| sibarraz 448th Post
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| "Re(8):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 02:38
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Quick recap of the KOF13 stuff that's happened at Evo-
Day 0 Mexico vs Korea exhibition matches
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby/b/323837934
Day 0 Kaoru vs Mr.KOF money matches
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18278547 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279091 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279161 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279365 - Nico
Day 1 Evening Money Matches
Results are at Orochinagi
http://orochinagi.com/2012/07/evo2012-mm-match-results
Note: Kaoru and the other Jp players apparently decided to money match playing cards amongst themselves rather than KOF. Seemed to make more money that way too.
Day 1 Tournament Results Summary
A more comprehensive results list than that on SRK is available here - http://kofkoucha.wordpress.com/
USA: Of the top 4 players, BALA, Reynald, Romance qualified. Mr.KOF qualified in losers. Other qualified players include The Answer, Combofiend, ChrisKOF, Kane317, Choysauce, David Kong, Dirty Sanchez, Metaphysics, Juicebox Abel
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To add for the chilean crew (since all off the named in the list are mexican), Zeroblack advanced for winners, toblipa and kaneblueriver for losers
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| mbisonhatclub 504th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 06:06
SCV was pretty nice, and having a "low tier" win just made me want to hindsight bias remark about Kusoru and how people should have learned by now not to fall back on tiership so much...yet, right now, I'm sure people are now going "Tira top tier!! Cheap!!!!! Nerf her" instead of saying "Oh, there's some undiscovered potential in her, maybe we're being too jaded and idiotic about tiers." Remember what I said before about KOFXIII and Japan's clinging to tiers? Maybe you don't, but I did mention that was actually a big vice, no pun intended.
Didn't watch UMvC3 or SFxT, heard UMvC3 was ok but people still griped about something that I didn't pay attention to, and SFxT...heh, nevermind. I don't think SFxT particularly deserves to be lambasted, but the way Capcom treats its potential customers and its products is just really disrespectful and taking the general consumer for granted, and it's a disgusting business approach that SHOULD be criticized. The game itself is just boring and fell short of the expectations.
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SSF4 could have been more hype than it was. I really got the feeling that they just wanted to get the finals over with.
It probably costs a lot of money by the day just to rent that space so they didn't want to hold it off until the next day. But it does seem sloppy that they kept everyone doddling around on a Saturday.
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All in all though, the most important part was that KoF was THE big hit of Evo this year. It feels so weird to write that. At first. Then it feels pretty good.
I'm still pinching myself over this.
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| nobinobita 1080th Post
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| "Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 07:31:
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Very dominant performance by Infiltration this year and by Korea it would seem in general. I am sure we may see more of them next year for KOF and SFIV, but I have the feeling that SFxT will be dumped due to it not being popular unless a major balance patch is released or they do something drastic like allow gems.
SFIV finals almost seemed to go by too fast like the players just wanted to get it over with since it started so late. They really need to try to get some tighter scheduling. Those impromptu VF5FS finals, the TTT2 and Injustice demos probably added an hour to the schedule.
UMvC3 was great. That Ifrit guy almost had it a couple of times and for being on of the "unknowns" he did pretty damn well.
KOFXIII was probably the best grand finals of them all. It was a bit shocking to see BALA taken out of his element, but MAD KOF really had to scrap for it.
MK9 is the only game to have a repeat champion in Perfect Legend, but it was the only game that didn't get a major balance overhaul from what I know of. Just allowed the use of DLC characters this year.
VF5FS was great, but as expected the Japanese won and Fuudo no less. I hope it is picked up as a main game next year over SFxT.
SCV was great, it really made me want to pick up the game, but I am already so invested in KOF and MvC3. I hope to see it next year too and it is not kicked off in favor of TTT2.
I love hearing about Tournament play, particularly about the interesting personalities, their corresponding play styles, and the rivalries that develop.
Is there any place that has an archive of profiles of notable players? Kind of like www.sherdog.com's fight finder?
I think that would make these tournaments much more cohesive and exciting to follow for someone not totally in the loop.
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| "Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 17:43
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SCV was pretty nice, and having a "low tier" win just made me want to hindsight bias remark about Kusoru and how people should have learned by now not to fall back on tiership so much...yet, right now, I'm sure people are now going "Tira top tier!! Cheap!!!!! Nerf her" instead of saying "Oh, there's some undiscovered potential in her, maybe we're being too jaded and idiotic about tiers." Remember what I said before about KOFXIII and Japan's clinging to tiers? Maybe you don't, but I did mention that was actually a big vice, no pun intended.
I get the slight impression that encouraging the notion of top tiers, at least sometimes, is something of a metagame practice - if you get potential opponents to stick to certain characters, you don't have to learn as many matchups with a considerable level of detail and can stick to a few.
Speaking of SC5, did anyone actually use Ezio? Tira's been around for 3 games and some people were using Viola at MLG, but I wonder if anyone bothers with a character that might not return in sequels...
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All in all though, the most important part was that KoF was THE big hit of Evo this year. It feels so weird to write that
I like that this weekend helped to write an important chapter in KoF history, it feels like the sort of long struggle through hardship that people respect - that one game that's been snubbed for years (CvS doesn't count, especially when abusing badly-coded rolls is encouraged) getting its name chanted in the very middle of THE Capcom fighting game event after some of the most exciting grand finals to be witnessed there.
And in the process, the myth/stereotype of the supremacy of Mexico and general and Bala in particular being taken down also re-humanizes the game for everyone else when the usual champion stops feeling like such an iron wall to everyone else - and that the victory went to fans that paid they way there instead of being sponsored halps, as does the fact that the finishing blow was delivered through a character that represents their own country like no other.
I love me some SNK game lore, but this has the making of a nice real-life story asking for a follow-up, and the EVO organization would do well to make sure that happens next year.
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Wed 11 Jul 07:34
I'm not nuts about Infiltration winning SF4, especially after winning SFxT with the lamest team possible. Still, that was Capcom's fault, not his, and he certainly made a fantastic showing in SF4. He had a confidence and a wildness that many of the other players seemed to lack.
I was also disappointed that the winning team in MvC3 was such a "typical" one when we saw so many interesting characters leading up to the finals.
I'm still catching up with all the KOF matches (I watched the finals). I was watching them muted, when I was thinking "I wonder what the commentary is like? They're probably just like WHOAAA WHOAAAA!" and as I un-muted it, that's exactly what I got. Still, I have a sinking feeling we won't be seeing it next year.
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Shining Decopon winning it all with Tira (who many consider to be low tier) in such decisive fashion against many of the supposed "top tiers" just proved how little anyone really knows about this game. I really hope this isn't the last we see of SC5 at Evo, because it's apparent that the surface has barely been scratch
SC5 is a sad story for me. I wish the development team had a little more time to finish everything they had planned for it, so it would've (hopefully) gotten a better reputation. Maybe people didn't really want a new SC and it wouldn't have done well anyway, but who knows. I think if the game had just a little more or didn't leave a bitter taste in so many people's mouths, it could be an enduring classic.
With the relatively low turn out this year and so many new fighters coming before next year, it'd be pretty unlikely to see it at EVO 2013, unless they bust out some unexpected update.
Speaking of unexpected updates, I'd like to see Capcom turn things around with SFxT, since there are a lot of things I like about the game, but with the tirade of new fighters coming out, even I find it hard to care about the upcoming characters or anything else. I don't have a lot of faith in Capcom improving its business practices or learning anything from this, even if I like the developers themselves. I feel like all they're going to take from this is "fighting games aren't as profitable as we thought" and "we need to rob people more secretly."
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"Re(2):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 10:24:
