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Toxico 5758th Post
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| "Re(2):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Wed 27 Feb 09:32
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| "Re(3):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Wed 27 Feb 21:54:
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EDIT : However, posting Hermes AA is a criminal offense.
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| "Re(7):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Fri 1 Mar 01:51:
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I suppose he's either a stage gimmick or Secco's backup character? If they go that route... wow. I just hope he's not just going to be scenario-only or the next commercial narrator like D'arby.
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Professor 3667th Post
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| "Re(8):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Fri 1 Mar 08:28:
ASB need some animals.. like the fellow below (go away Petshop, you were a nightmare). Come to think, a Strength/Orangutan boat stage would be pretty cool, a lot of possible gimmicks.
Man, it really does feel like the old days with all these speculations, leaks, and AAs flying over the place!
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kofoguz 1032th Post
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| "Re(9):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Fri 1 Mar 12:59
quote: ASB need some animals.. like the fellow below (go away Petshop, you were a nightmare). Come to think, a Strength/Orangutan boat stage would be pretty cool, a lot of possible gimmicks.
Man, it really does feel like the old days with all these speculations, leaks, and AAs flying over the place!
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Is everyone in MMCafe is (apparantly) great AA'tist? Or is google my friend?
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kofoguz 1033th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Fri 1 Mar 21:25
quote: Google definitely is, I wouldn't be able to draw a stick figure to save my life.
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Roger that.
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Iggy 9452th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Wed 6 Mar 18:59:
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I'm quite surprised by Esidisi, especially if Lisalisa is still a possible addition, but well, at least we have Fujiwara Keiji in another glorious game (he's my new seiyû crush, he was Matsunaga in Basara). Quick! Scans! Trailers! More characters! Confirmation of Annasui and Ciccolata! More leaks! MORE GAME!!!
EDIT : scan! http://i.imgur.com/fOf3C1r.jpg
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| "Re(4):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Wed 6 Mar 22:00
quote: [AA] 《 《 《 《 《 《 ,_||__,--||--___________ \》 》 》___》__||--||~~||~ || 彡 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; (___》,,,--';;;\(((/;;;;;/(,,,,,,,, )) 彡 二 Esidisi and Ceasar Oヽヾ_-_,-ヽ,( ミ;;/,ノ~'''__-,,_, ノノ彡 二 Confirmed in next WJ ?! /--~~''"iiノ;;ヾミ;;ヽ二~ヽ""´ノ ミ //) This... this is too much O/;;;/;;;iii/ ;; \;ii;;\ .)..ノヽヽ //ii / to bear... .(/;;;iii;;;;(___,,,--,;;)ii|ヾ;;;;;;;| | | ;; |;; / //ヽ/\ヾ-'~~ ,_, "ヽ;;;;\ || ii_)ii ) ノ ( (\-,__,-'~ ) )ヾ;;;;;;;;| | .
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Ehh Esidisi fuels the suspicion I have about the relation to the cast of the game and Medicos releases! more more
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Iggy 9466th Post
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| "Re(4):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Thu 28 Mar 01:55:
It already has been two weeks, I was starting to get worried! But finally, more pictures and moves from Esidisi and Ceasar. http://www.famitsu.com/news/201303/28030868.html I was worried Esidisi would end up with only two special moves, but he looks quite varied... He even has an antiair, which seems quite rare in this game (not sure how useful it might be, though).
I was daydreaming that we might end up discovering some ex-Capcom employees in the staff, but I'm starting to wonder if they wouldn't be actually ex-SNK employees (not that it would make much difference, but still). We already have 3 characters with special counters, and Hermes even has a super counter (like Kasumi in the later KOFs). It's an interesting design decision, especially with the just defence-step system, and Ceasar being more of a zoning character, with projectiles at different angles and specials that make him move around... There's a lot of seemingly "zoning" characters though, I wonder how it will end up in the final game.
Almost April! Quick! More characters pretty pretty CC2 please!
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Toxico 5764th Post
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| "Re(5):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Tue 2 Apr 14:18
It's time for some off topic notice - Nico
So, anyone else thinks that Baoh is going to be a guest character on this? Though I suddenly have this urge of playing Santana and entering every other male member of the cast..... Not like that is going to happen.
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Every door in the game should include a stage gimmick ズラ
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Toxico 5767th Post
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| "Re(9):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Thu 11 Apr 03:43:
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There's a rumour the next characters to be released would be Kôichi (Echoes Act 1-2-3) and Otoishi (Red Hot Chili Pepper), but there's no scan of it yet... which means it's probably fake. I REALLY hope we'll have at least one or two characters added in April...
EDIT SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANS!!! https://twitter.com/OhZumio/status/321993906789179393/photo/1
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Aaah, this cruel announcement might make me think that the could add for about as many characters to each part as the amount of guys that there are in Stardust Crusaders.
While Akira personality is completely silly (well, the game needs someone like that, I guess?), I always found that the fact that he was "the other boss" of part 4 was pretty interesting (perhaps, the only part with more than one "boss").
It would be cool if they stick to the concept of his stand, as in "it's pretty broken, however it can't function for a long time unless it's fed". I guess we'll have Akira stop what he is doing to play the guitar every once in a while to keep rechiri pumped?
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Can I assume that having Koichi means that Yukako is possible?
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Thu 11 Apr 08:50
quote: While Akira personality is completely silly (well, the game needs someone like that, I guess?), I always found that the fact that he was "the other boss" of part 4 was pretty interesting (perhaps, the only part with more than one "boss"). In my eyes, there's only one boss in chapter 4. And it is Yoshikage Kira. Dare I say I loved him as the best boss entire manga, imho he's even better than Dio.
I liked and disliked Kira, partly for reasons that symbolize fanboy reasons.
Part 4 saw Joseph reduced to his puniest form. As if the weakening of him in part 3 from the almighty bullshi* machine he was in part 2, now he's just short of being an invalid. Whatever happened to the ripple making you more youthful? Geeze.
And so it is that in order to put Kira over the top, there have to be moments when the almighty Jotaro just can't deal, and it's difficult to accept, especially when Kira is ultimately a much pettier villain than Cars or Dio. He's somewhat entertaining, but in the end all he is is a small-town murderer.
So while there's a lot about part 4 I like, I never really loved Kira much.
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kofoguz 1043th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Thu 11 Apr 09:42
quote: While Akira personality is completely silly (well, the game needs someone like that, I guess?), I always found that the fact that he was "the other boss" of part 4 was pretty interesting (perhaps, the only part with more than one "boss"). In my eyes, there's only one boss in chapter 4. And it is Yoshikage Kira. Dare I say I loved him as the best boss entire manga, imho he's even better than Dio.
I liked and disliked Kira, partly for reasons that symbolize fanboy reasons.
Part 4 saw Joseph reduced to his puniest form. As if the weakening of him in part 3 from the almighty bullshi* machine he was in part 2, now he's just short of being an invalid. Whatever happened to the ripple making you more youthful? Geeze.
And so it is that in order to put Kira over the top, there have to be moments when the almighty Jotaro just can't deal, and it's difficult to accept, especially when Kira is ultimately a much pettier villain than Cars or Dio. He's somewhat entertaining, but in the end all he is is a small-town murderer.
So while there's a lot about part 4 I like, I never really loved Kira much.
Yes, I agree everything you're telling about Joseph.
Spoilerish for the people who didnt read part 4 and 5.
What I like about Kira is that he is pain in the ass, creepy and believable (except the stand thing). He's not a vampire, or a pillar man from past or an infinite dimensions traveller or a dinozor. He's just a normal (!) guy, if you know what i mean. Pucci was an equerry on his own chapter, Diavolo was introduced too late, and body swap with an ally didn't help. Well Dio is Dio. So I liked him better, for the record I liked him better because I wanted him to be dead but the motherlover wasn't quitting easily. Juicy villain. Not to mention, Killer Queen, the Father and the extreme makeover (which I'm not fond of, the old face was better ) Everything you love to hate.So I love him as a villain.
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Toxico 5767th Post
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| "Re(5):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Thu 11 Apr 14:00
quote: I was really impressed at how well Araki captured the "serial killer" persona with him. The idea of "why won't people just leave me alone?" and "I just want to live my life!" was really brilliant. He didn't have the grandiose "big villain" feel, but he was a great fit for the story, and he's my favorite antagonist as well.
This. Though, to be honest, most of Kira's appeal wouldn't wither if he wasn't a "last boss", having him pursuing his life style long enough does the trick. I liked that we got to hear from him after he was dead.
The question is not if Kira is cool enough for you to like him, but if your hands are pretty enough for you to like him.
About Diavolo, the thing that I didn't liked was mainly that he was too powerful "just because", as stated most other bosses have silly backgrounds and stuff, even Kira had the "he used the arrow to evolve" stuff thrown in; but for Diavolo there is like, absolutely nothing special aside from being born out of masturbation.
I admit that he is much better than the priest or the president. He gets extra points for having such a memetic dead - Nico (original - Nico, skip to 9:30). Did I mention that he has his own RPG - Nico ??
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Iggy 9480th Post
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| "Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions w" , posted Thu 11 Apr 20:10
Trash-talking Echoes Act 3 is good enough for me! I don't really care for Otoishi, especially because I can't really imagine him fighting by himself. Red Hot was doing everything and will probably be crazy fast and powerful, with some charge mechanic I suppose, but what will the 本体 do? Stay in the background and play the guitar? I hope they don't make it some random fighting musician who hits people with his guitar. Otoishi seems to treasure his guitar far too much to take the risk of damaging it like that. Anyhow, if we are to get another character from part 4, I really, really, really hope it's Yukako. The game could use more females, and more hysterical, batshit insane characters. People are also wondering if Kawajiri-Kira couldn't be there in some form or another... After all, the background for part 4 is the end of the fight, and it was Kawajiri, not regular Kira by then. Especially because Killer Queen + Stray Cats could make the character completely different (and I hope they don't try to adapt Bites the Dust, I'm afraid it would be quite lame. Especially after the discussions on time manipulation in Skullgirls). If he were, that would ease up the turmoil about DLC Kira quite a bit.
Kira is hands down my favourite villain of the series (it helps that I didn't really care for Joseph or Jôtarô, and I really don't like Jôsuke. I only started liking the main character with Giorno). On top of what everyone said already, I'll add that he's reliable in the sense that not only you understand why he's doing everything he does, but you also see him doing his things as the main character of some episodes. Who didn't cheer when Araki suddenly used Cinderella to do something useful, even though she had been introduced several volumes ago? You even end up cheering for Kira against Stray Cats, and the whole "fight" with Hayato over Bites The Dust is probably the absolute apex of the manga. Both characters are so great I couldn't help cheering for both. Why did we have to get Emporio after Hayato?
No other boss gets close to Kira. DIO and Kars are good vilains, but still quite cliché. Diavolo is forgettable (I really hope we get Doppio as a playable character, not base Diavolo). It didn't help that we mostly saw him as Buccellati. I think Pucci is the worst villain of the series. He's the main reason why Stone Ocean absolutely sucks. He keeps winning the whole time, double crossing the good guys every single time (so they end up looking dumb and weak), but there is no rhyme or reason to anything he does. What are his powers? Oh, more or less everything, here, I'll transform the room into a giant snake stomach to digest you. BECAUSE. Why does he do stuff? Because it fits some random flowchart that doesn't make any sense. Here, a bone! And then chanting things makes a baby appear? And he alone can approach the baby because? And random coordinates? And his stand evolves? Why? Because. For what? Because. Here, have 3 douchebags that might be DIO's sons! Thank god he left Giorno out of it. And finally he gets killed by Emporio. How lame. The President wasn't great, but at least he was an immense improvement over Pucci.
I wonder if the characters for May (April=4th month, so May=characters from part 5, right? right? right?) will be Buccellati and Cioccolata. I really have the bad feeling Buccellati will end up DLC... After all, he's probably the most popular character of the whole series. That would make a TON of money. Much more than, say, Cioccolata, or Kenzo, or Keichô, or Vanilla. Another likely DLC character could be Schtroheim, after the anime and the really good work his voice actor did. Well, I'll end up getting every single piece of DLC they'll make for this game if they keep the quality up, so the more the better!
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kofoguz 1044th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Fri 12 Apr 16:24
quote: No other boss gets close to Kira. DIO and Kars are good vilains, but still quite cliché. Diavolo is forgettable (I really hope we get Doppio as a playable character, not base Diavolo). It didn't help that we mostly saw him as Buccellati. I think Pucci is the worst villain of the series. He's the main reason why Stone Ocean absolutely sucks. He keeps winning the whole time, double crossing the good guys every single time (so they end up looking dumb and weak), but there is no rhyme or reason to anything he does. What are his powers? Oh, more or less everything, here, I'll transform the room into a giant snake stomach to digest you. BECAUSE. Why does he do stuff? Because it fits some random flowchart that doesn't make any sense. Here, a bone! And then chanting things makes a baby appear? And he alone can approach the baby because? And random coordinates? And his stand evolves? Why? Because. For what? Because. Here, have 3 douchebags that might be DIO's sons! Thank god he left Giorno out of it. And finally he gets killed by Emporio. How lame. The President wasn't great, but at least he was an immense improvement over Pucci.
Pucci sucks. What is his motivation? Somehow he believed that to reach to the paradise he(/dio) thinks jojo's should wiped from the existence. He has basically have army to rule the world, but he is busted by a small kid. Weak sauce.
Also it sucks that, all the female characters are either useless or they just need help. Even Lisa Lisa was fooled by cheap trick and needs of his student help.Actually it is ok since the main character was joseph so let him shine, right. But what was Jolyne's excuse? Seeing her alternate universe version? And Hot Pants? How did she died? "Oh, sorry I forgot to kill the Zeppeli traditionally, even though I planned Gyro, no Sandman, no Johnny as the main character, so please die Hot Pants and DInO please exit immediately... Rant continues like that .
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Toxico 5768th Post
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| "Re(6):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discuss" , posted Sat 13 Apr 07:30
quote: But weren't there 2 Hot Pants in the SBR world when the original "probably" died? While I've yet to get into Jojo despite everyone telling me to the last time I wondered what all the commotion was about, the staggeringly, fascinatingly surreal conversations and descriptions I hear make for such entertaining reading that I'm not sure I could bear to actually get around to reading it and seeing it take an actual form.
Ah, I'm sure that the awesome posing would distract you from any meaningful reading. If that's not the case, there is actually plenty of singing - Nico in store to keep the mind occupied.
One thing, though; is that in Jojo many of the character dialogs become epic memes and that spread and preserved by future generations as part of our human patrimony. A single chapter can even easily be better than a MAD - Nico (watch the first 2 : 15 minutes for a wonderful experience) , but as a translator is pretty hard to handle that type of responsibility, in fact a lot of the translators out there aren't aware of that kind of weight and just content themselves with delivering the meaning of the sentences (which is a proper thing to do, even though some vital things such as kiais were lost).
Bottom line, if you can, check it on it's original form.
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Iggy 9496th Post
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| "Re(10):Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discus" , posted Thu 25 Apr 23:39
To be honest, it's difficult to know at the moment because they are only showing up very short, "perfect" segments. Some "legitimate" deformation happens (Jonathan's Dahlsim-like arm, the close-up on the distorted faces when Gold Experience punches) but I don't think we've seen anything on the scale of what you're talking about.
But Street Fighter comes from a very different perspective : they had to (or rather thought they had to) stick to the original 2D poses, even though a lot of them don't make sense (as 3D models, or as real people fighting). The worst example of that is Balrog (Spanish ninja with claw). His stance in SF4 is ridiculous, with his background shoulder absurdly and painfully sticking out of his lung. Showing the front torso of Ken and Ryu makes sense in a 2D perspective (if I recall correctly, even more in SFZero?) to allow players to identify them more easily, but it translates oddly in a 3D plane (see : SF EX, or KOF MI when a character is on the 2nd player place and then shows only his back to the player). In other terms, characters facing each other VS characters facing the player with just their head facing the opponent at an uncomfortable 90º is a common visual issue in fighters. Since Jojo is build up from the 3D plane, with visual satisfaction of the player being the prime goal and realism a mere distant concept, their perspective is probably going to be quite different from, say, Mortal Kombat or Tekken.
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Iggy 9500th Post
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| "Re(10):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous" , posted Wed 8 May 01:50
The location test of this week-end seemed to use a similar build as the last one. Some changes, but not a huge evolution. Playable characters were the 7 Jojos, Whamu and Gyro (there since the TGS), as well as Zeppeli, Polnaref, DIO and Okuyasu. Still no Kakyôin, Mista, Hol Horse or Hermes, and none of the newer characters (Kira, Esidisi, Kôichi, etc). I sure hope development is going well, but I’m starting to get worried… No newer video either.
System *Guard gauge The stylish gard consumes 1/4 of the guard gauge, however the gauge replenishes very slowly. Abusing the system would empty the gauge very fast, leading to plenty of guard crashes. The system seems to be surprisingly balanced.
* Provocation Regular provocation depletes the opponent’s HH gauge by 1/8. If done after the enemy is sent flying, it depletes much more. DIO can do it after stopping time, and the enemy’s gauge will go down once the time has started moving again. Provocations cannot be canceled by anything, so you really need to be sure you can’t be punished before doing one.
Characters Jonathan The sword of Luck&Pluck is very easy to use. Puttsun Canceling it leads to easy and damaging combos. Zoom punch seems better for pocking? The range seems the same as Zeppeli’s. Both Jonathan and Zeppeli seem very easy to use and beginner friendly, with several moves in common. By the way, all Hamon users fill their breathing gauge at the same speed. According to the developer, that wasn’t the case at the beginning, but they had to change it to adjust the balance (it’s always reassuring to hear them say they consider balance with such systems).
Zeppeli He can send several Hamon cutters according to the button pressed (1, 2 or 3). You can also cancel “Jumping while sitting” with air Hamon cutters, meaning you can hop all around filling the screen with projectiles.
Polnareff The sword has good reach and the tip of the blade hits well, which makes him a very offensive character. Close-up and defence against incoming opponents seems to be his weakness. Also, you need to be precise with his moves: the sword is very fast on the attack, but Polnareff needs some time to recover, so you need to not throw your moves mindlessly. Armour Take Off (his HHA) lowers the defence, and creates 3 Chariot images (a little like Galon’s Mirage Body in Hunter). It is very powerful, and can be used at the earliest opportunity to push one’s advantage.
Generally, he seems quite easy to use, with anti-projectiles, good space control, range and speed, and some stunning attack. The HHA is very powerful, but on the other hand he might feel lacking when in normal mode, especially against aggressive opponents. His GHA is probably one of the fastest of the game, very useful to take anyone off-guard.
Against Jôsuke, Ponareff start by saying he’ll give him a free haircut.
Jôsuke The barrier he creates by breaking/remodelling the ground changes according to the stage (in Moriôchô, it’s concrete, in the coliseum, it’s brown tiles, in the prison’s courtyard it’s green leaves…). The strength of the button changes the distance at which it appears.
Okuyasu He has a cripplingly low number of moves, and they are all very slow. All characters can start a combo from weak punch all the way to their HHA, but Okuyasu’s is so slow it gets avoided very easily. However, his stand attacks are unblockable, and can be charged. Some attacks can also erase most projectiles of the game (except Johnny’s GHA), but it’s unclear which ones can and cannot. He also deals tons of damage; his HHA alone deals roughly as much damage as other characters' weak>middle>strong>special>HHA combo.
Giorno After the opponents are punched away by his HHA, they cannot move for around 2 seconds. So near a wall, HHA=>taking advantage of the paralysis to land a combo=>HHA=>combo=>HHA can be done until the gauge runs out. Fortunately, Giorno doesn’t deal a lot of damage, but it’s still very damaging / frustrating, plus the animation of the HHA becomes annoying when repeated in such ways. It takes 3 real-life seconds to activate his GHA, so the worries about an unstoppable Requiem can be put to rest. The HHA infinite seems much more worrying. He has a lot of tools at his disposal, the frog counter, the mudamuda rush, the easy evasion with the tree, and generally fast and low-lag moves. However, he doesn’t seem to excel in anything. In Requiem mode, he can cancel a lot more things, close the distance very fast, create many more opportunities to break the opponent’s guard… But if he’s hit during the 3 seconds start-up, the gauge is wasted. In any case, for the moment, he seems to be a character that will need to store a lot of gauge, and then release it in one go to kill the opponent, either through HHA cheapness of by finding a way to go into Requiem mode.
Jolyne She is probably the character with the longest range in her moves. The 1000 ball throws is especially long-reaching. She can also put a sort of net on the ground, low damage but paralyse the enemy for a short time. Her game plan could involve laying traps and harassing the opponent from afar, which would be quite different from other zoners such as Gyro. That makes the current unplayability of Mista and Hol Horse even more frustrating.
Johnny Tusk Act 4 is NOT an unblockable. There seems to have been a lot of spec changes going on with this move… I hope it will end up OK. For the time being, if Johnny is not riding his horse, he automatically climbs on it before attacking. Since he’s shooting from a high position, he can miss if the opponent is too close. Also, whether it hits the opponent or not, it evolves Tusk straight to Act 4, regardless of his previous state. Piroshi said that between Act 4 and Gold Experience Requiem, the latter is definitely the stronger (hence the 3 seconds lag).
Johnny’s sentence to Jôsuke is “that’s a great haircut, it super great, you’re so dope” in the flattest tone possible.
DIO He’s more or less Jotarô with more emphasis on mid-range. Moves reaches farther, can counter/evade attacks by stopping time, and he is capable to keep the enemy away as well as rushing up close by teleporting or using attacks that move him forward. He also deals good damage and has an impressive variety of attacks. He only throws one knife at a time (like he does against Joseph), but if you do it while the time is stopped, you can emulate the same feeling as the super in Capcom’s game. DIO is a special character in that when he gets attacked, he gets half of the damage in recoverable health, like the system in Vampire Savior. However, it seems Hamon damage is unrecoverable. He also has a move where he starts walking towards the opponent, “giving him a chance”. This move is cancellable, and has 2-3 hits of super armor. It seems like a powerful counter move. If DIO sucks the blood out of a member of the Joestar family (Giorno included), he feels “最高にハイ”, which is all I wanted to know really.
General appreciation (biaised views, obviously): The game plays well for beginners. It’s a very strange SF2, very lively, and pretty. Fights are dynamic and fast. As a fan game, it’s simply amazing, you could just play all day pausing every second to see your favourite characters going through all their animations. But for real fighting games fanatics (who would be simply looking for a good fighting game regardless of the licence), the game doesn’t look so hot. There are massive worries of imbalances and broken characters, the supers are extremely long (much longer than Ibuki’s infamous Ultra 1 in SSF4), which breaks the rhythm of the fight (no option to shorten them as of yet), and the 30 FPS won’t be popular with the kids nowadays… In other words, the SRK crowd can continue to ignore the game.
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Iggy 9505th Post
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| "Ultimate life form" , posted Wed 15 May 21:19:
, ,__,._rフノ三ニ=- ト、彡彡'三彡彡彡⌒ミヽ彡ミ 巛 l ヽ.Vト、彡'/三ミ三ミニミミ彡ノ ヽト、ll| 〉 | ハ/////彡ニニニニミヽ' il|、_ハ._〉`丁川Lノ//ノ/彡⌒ミミi川ミミ三 I have no needs for turbans in that game! ミ、ミ三三ミミV/////ノ//ミミミi川ノノ三ミミ ,.--、≧ミミミr‐f⌒(__)ニ入ミミ三ミ//〈__,二二ミ I am the ultimate life form! 。・・。. 。_ rく___ノ __ヽソ ーヽ-' _ノ |lト、ミ三ニ、ミミミミミヽヽ 。゚ .。・:{(__)ヽ'八ー'(_ )l\ i j/ __,,>_ヽミ//ヽ.})川|ヽミミ No other character can stand next to me! : 。゚ <二〉 / ̄ ̄ヽ<二弋テ}'-‐'f‐t:テブ´ ヾ/リ./ノハヽミミミ (or be unveiled on the same week as I) : 。゚ ,(○!: : : : : ノ○)l /! '´ l  ̄ (⌒Yヽ巛ミミ、ヽヽ :。゜ / \ヽ: : : :/-ン ,ハ lノ __ f⌒V ',川川,},}j Buccalawho? Who cars! .。:゚ / `ヽ /ヽ ‐,'|〈_入{__ハ ヽ-'__,. >‐< Vノノノ八 I mean, cares! 。゜ : /`ヽ /∨´|lvj人 _ 〉__ハ.`ー‐_' /└-' ノ ̄了ミ .: 。゚{ ー‐、' \, |ー'`´! / 巛',`匸 / _... -‐::: ̄::::::{ミミ 。゚ 。゜ _i ヽ \,ヘノ / __ヽー─≦-‐::: ̄::::-‐:::: ̄::__:::::\ : 。゜ //\ _,. -‐ァ' __rf´:::::::::_::::::::::-‐::::_ ̄::-─::: ̄::::::::::ノ: ゚。・__./\ 丶--' _/! ,...<::_ヽ_:::::__:::::-‐:: ̄:::::::::::::::::__:::::-::::´::::::: , ´ / 丶、二二 ..ノ:; '"´ \ \:::::::::ー‐:----:─::::-=三三二 /,' ,.'二二、ヽ // ,. -‐ヽ'´ ̄ ̄ ̄ /::::::::::::::::::::::::::__:::::::
Also, new system: "Situational finish". It involves beating an opponent in a certain stage, with a certain move (or/and stage gimmick) to have a special K.O. animation/finisher mimicking the scene from the manga (the example given is the vampire horse in part 2's Colosseum). I speculate that's how they'll manage to fit Bites the Dust in the game, having your character explode if certain conditions are met in Moriochou's stage?
Also, there seem to be character customization in the game. Not sure yet if that means color edit, quote/pose edit (for provocations/victory pose?) or real customization with items (that would be the best option, of course... I mean, all of them combined would be the best option). We'll know when the scan comes, tomorrow probably.
Still, only one character this month... うぃん
うぃん
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Iggy 9507th Post
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| "Re(3):Ultimate life form" , posted Thu 16 May 08:30:
quote: I guess the biggest doubts in the cast would be "non stand Dio" (possibly redundant, & nobody cares about him) & Funny Valentine (he was spotted in a background, supposedly(?)).
Actually, now that Rohan can punch and kick Kars anytime, it rules out all the "this character (Valentine, Abbacchio, Rizzotto, Speedwagon) cannot be in the game because he doesn't have enough moves" objections. I mean, what is Rohan going to do? Eat spiders? And how frustrating is he going to fight against if he can make you do what he wants, seal off your moves, etc? It's going to be awesome. After Rohan, anything is possible. They could even add Stray Cats (alone, as a plant rooted in the ground) as a playable character at this point.
quote: by the fact that Keiji Fujiwara has one of the best cursing voices in the industry
*nod appraisingly*
quote: Considering how Rohan showed up, I wonder if I should get more hopeful of the cameos at the start of the trailers? At this point pretty much every character that they announce is gonna make me twirl with joy.
He's also the second character after DIO that is playable while featured in a stage gimmick. So Vanilla, Weather, and the chandelier of Dio's manor all have a spot. I suppose the situational finish of the manor will be Dire's head spitting a rose? It's sad but probably for the best if they don't put him playable... They could also have Part 1 Dio being attacked by Dire during a super and killing him as an elaborate provocation/hyper cancel.
There aren't that many characters featured in the first trailers that haven't been added to the game... Merely Buccellati (who cannot be left out of the game whatever way you look at it) and Old Joseph if you don't count the quotes at the beginning of the PV2. I wonder if they will add more Part 3 characters, or if they wait for the inevitable anime sequel to sell Old Joseph or Vanilla as DLC / in a sequel.
EDITAnd very unsurprisingly, Rohan's VA is KAmiya Hiroshi. He was the most obvious name lacking in the VA list, so now he's in. Maybe Hosokawa could be added... Buccellati?
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Iggy 9532th Post
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| "Golden Wind" , posted Wed 29 May 20:08:
__,,,,... -―‐-、__ =ニ_" ̄-...._,二 ,,..=''" ""''=-、_ ~~'''''‐、_ ''=;;;>ー`'―――--、 ヽ、 ノ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ヽ `/ ヽ ヽ‐-、 ヽ / .とうおるるる... |エ`l =''''エヱ,'' ‐/ /\ .l l. Hello ? Boss ? /(・)`| /(・) > ヽ \| |. You're in Jojo ASB this month ? /〈  ̄ "' ,`ー- ' i /\ | 〉 .With Buccellati? . l::::ヽ___ヽ 。゚ , ' l ヽ__ / 〈 And Narancia too? |::::::r~‐、 / ,r、`i/ l. Congratulations! . |::::::))ニゝ / 2り / _ノ But... |::::(_,, / (_/|-=二__ What about me? !:: "" / 入. | \________ `ヽ、__,,,,........,,,,_/ / || |l| . 〕;;;;;;;;;;:::::=''" _/|| ||/ | _|| ̄|| ̄|| ̄ ||. ||,/|| ヽ '" ̄ || || || || /| \ `ー---‐―'''"~
And what about Cioccolata, too. I wonder how Narancia will play (and who will voice him). Also, Buccellati! So much WKTK!
Edit: Scans, with not a lot except fabulous modelling.
Wait... New background, next to a train... Pesci and Prociutto??? If they add the two main couples of enemies (along with Ciocco&Secco) as playable and not merely gimmicks or story mode elements, they can skip Rizzotto and no one will complain. Pfff. With Buccellati, they can even skip everyone else and release the game right now at this point. 29 characters already, and they have only showed 2 characters for parts 6 and 7! Who knows how much the final game will grow!
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Toxico 5782th Post
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| "Re(2):Golden Wind" , posted Thu 30 May 18:11:
ト、 |: 丶 /!ヽ |: : :.| . イ_,ノ: ‘,/: : :.乂 _,,..-‐-ミ _ オ、オレは何回死ぬんだ!? . /l__!: : : : :‘:,_: : : :.:`Y´イ l: :_:_: :乂___/:{ 次はど……どこから……… |_: : : :: : : : : : : >‐‐‐/: :.! ノ__! |: : : : : : : :‘:, い…いつ |__〕: :∧: :/: /____, |: :.:./ ‘< _: : : : : :(_\ |: :.:.:/ ∨:ア r‐--、 l|: :.七¨二¨´ヽ ヽ: : : : : : :.:.〕iト、 _ おそ |: : / / | l|: : :|〃 rっ㍉ |: : : : : : : : : : :丶 | __l__ !__ |: / / し _ 、 !|: : :| ≧==彡' |: :r‐┐: : : : : : : :\ ム. コ ___ |/ / ,/二 ヽ Ⅵ: | /: :ゝ‐': : : : : : : : : : :丶 _|=|_!_|__,_ ___ / . /  ̄`ヽ‘:, u|:/ /r‐┐: :./: : /: : : : : : : : :\ /| ヽノ ヽ / . ,′ // こ ヽ l イ: ア´: :./: : /: : : : : : : : : : : :丶 レ \ ー―‐' 乂_ | く る ん だ ! ? . ,′ \! し /:./___:/: : /: : : : : : : : : : : : : : :\  ̄ . ,′U イ〕/: :.ア´: : : /ヽ: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : ヽ / ___ u /: :イ: :.://: : :./¨´: : : : : : :.ト、: : : : ___: : :\ オ レ は ! . ∧ /三三ヽ ムイ: :,′:.:/: : : : :._: : : : : :|: 丶: : ゝ‐く: : : : 丶 . / ∧/三三三 \ /,イ: : イ: : : : く ノ: : : :.:.|: : : \: : : : : : : : : ‘:, オ レ は ッ! . / ∧三三三三三ヽ. /イ: : / !:O: : : : : : : : : :.:|: :[): : 丶: : : : : : : :.:‘:, / ∧三三三三三 ≧==≦ー‐‐=≦l |_: : : : : : : □: |: : : : : : : :\: : : : : : : ‘:, / ハ三三三三三三三彡' |__〕: : : : : : : : :|: : : : : : : : : ‘:,: : : : : : :.‘:, 丶 __ |: : : : : : : : : : : : |: : : : : : : : : :.:‘:,: : : : : : :.‘:, | /-‐=≦ニ≧=ミ |: : : : : []: : : : : :.|: : : : : : : : : : :.:‘:,: : : : : : : ‘:,
Just how many times have we posted about him? The next one, where will it come, when will it be? I.... I...
BTW, there is apparently a rumor that the next trailer should be close to July, supposedly comes from 2ch but I haven't seen anything about it.
Oh, also, someone over at nico nico gave themselves the work of comparing the current PVs to the manga scenes - A must see for any Jojo fan - very fun stuff.
1st PV - Nico
2nd PV - Nico
3rd PV - Nico
4th PV - Nico
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Iggy 9544th Post
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| "Re(6):Next trailer coming June 9" , posted Thu 6 Jun 04:42:
quote: I'm so glad that 'Sheer Heart Attack' is Kira's ougi, after all 'Bite the Dust' can't be used on stand users (In other words, it should be a stage gimmick via Hayato rather than an attack).
Wasn't there something about the gimmick in that stage being about Bite The Dust ? Like, inserts of Rohan reading Hayato, then the thunder falls on the Pepsi sign and on the stage... Could it be that the sequence goes on until Rohan (and the players ?)'s death? Also, does the fact Kira shows no sign of Stray Cats more or less confirm a Kawajiri version?
And Rohan's command move sealing off the style button, the HHA sealing off special moves and his GHA sealing off ALL attacks will be very annoying! Fortunately, he looks like he'll do very little damage. On the other hand, Kars having flight plus unblockables on so many moves is terribly frightening (rightfully so, though). I wonder if Pet Shop cursed the game: "a flying character in a Jojo game? He has to be overpowered".
Edit : Kira can get damaged by his own explosions, and Echoes can stop Sheer Heart Attack. Neat! I hope he has more tricks than that, though. A simple Rush and a powered-up [Leona's] SHA don't seem very appealing. Or maybe he has strong normals?
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Toxico 5784th Post
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| "Re(7):Next trailer coming June 9" , posted Thu 6 Jun 06:09
quote: On the other hand, Kars having flight plus unblockables on so many moves is terribly frightening (rightfully so, though). I wonder if Pet Shop cursed the game: "a flying character in a Jojo game? He has to be overpowered".
丶、 丶\ ヽ `、:| i:i| \ `丶、 \ `、:i、iiハ ``丶、丶`ト、|ィ三ヽ >ぐ彡"_'三二=、 〃 。/"´<テュフ ̄7\ 二 《 / i´r、...二.....ノ `、 ヤ __ , ゝ_゚/ ヽヽニ二二ニヽ | リ ::::::::`く <| ト、 `ヽ ::∨ :::::::::| l| ト、 ,! .::::} :::::::| `!、\ .....:::::ノ ..:::::::::ハ l`ヽ `ヽ、:::::::::::::.::/!>`>、 :::::::::::::/(:(ヽ、\`ヽ``‐-、__/ィ ノイ
Ultimate being? Don't forget about the feathers.
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Edit : Kira can get damaged by his own explosions, and Echoes can stop Sheer Heart Attack. Neat! I hope he has more tricks than that, though. A simple Rush and a powered-up [Leona's] SHA don't seem very appealing. Or maybe he has strong normals?
Supposedly Kira's stand's design point was that it wasn't that great strength wise (like, Josuke & Jotaro could punch him silly without getting caught); since they kept Okuyasu's "slow but strong", I'm guessing that such a basic concept is going to be kept.... Well, I guess they could do gimmicky things like him throwing exploding coins with his normal or something? Maybe combo / damage oriented with little flash on his moves? (would fit his "efficiency, but not stand out" policy).
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Iggy 9556th Post
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| "Re(2):Screenshot Extravaganza" , posted Mon 10 Jun 18:24
Damn, beaten two days in a row! ~ううう、あんまりだ…HEEEEYYYY!あんまりだアアアア!
I think I'm already tired of Speedwagon. I hope he can be turned off. Also, I forgot to save the link, but Chinporio is in the menus (explaining stuff about the gallery/customization/character model viewer/gallery shop). I expect other non-fighting characters such as Tony to appear there too... On the other hand, that's where I thought Rohan would appear before they showed him, so everything is possible.
Voice actors will be easy to adapt to, I think. I didn't really like Kira's voice in the first trailer he was in, but in this one I'm already used and welcome my new hero. Several characters (Joseph, Gyro and Giorno at least) have already been re-recorded, or at least had their voices changed with slightly different, more fitting accents, so everything is possible. Having Kôichi's voice being almost entirely serious, anti-Kira dialogue was surprising, though... I wonder how he sounds like if he fight someone he doesn't hate.
The anime crew of part 2 is unsurprisingly brilliant, and I also like the fact that they sound slightly less... how could I say... energic than in the anime. Like, they toned down a bit. Which will make it much more bearable in the context of a fighting game where the sentences don't form an actual conversation. Speaking of which, I wonder how they will fit "daga kotowaru". If it's just one of the provocations (Rohan punching a guy to oblivion and then saying だが断る out of the blue), it's going to be weird... But Hermes shouts これもグロリアの分だ to everyone, and since no one in the game even knows who Gloria is, I don't think I should pay that much attention to such details. Speaking of which, was it really necessary to give her the "who wants my panty" pose to evade attacks?
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - Well, yes, probably it was.
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Iggy 9566th Post
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| "Famitsu this week" , posted Thu 13 Jun 19:56
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201306/13034733.html Buccellati looks quite good, and he DOES have the resurrection that was hinted in the trailer (if you die on a round that would have cost you the match, you revive with a little bit of life. Nothing Phoenix-like, but neat). Narancia looks boring, I'm still not sure how necessary it was to put him in the game... Another zoner, and all his attacks look horizontal, so probably once you get the timing for side-stepping, he shouldn't be too much of a problem. Shota rejoice. Diavolo is really frightening, though. Counters, invincible dashes, modes to make him invincible, and huge damage on top of it... I hope he moves very slowly to compensate.
Even more importantly, a few modes are explained: * There will be a story mode, that follow key sequences of the manga (I suppose just having characters who are in the game fighting each other where they did in the manga... In a way it can confirm Dio, Pucci or Valentine, but on the other hand I really don't see them putting Xander Mcqueeen or SportsMax for Hermes to have someone to fight. We'll see I suppose) * There is also a campaign mode. We don't know anything about it. Maybe a glorified Arcade mode ? * In-game system: GOGOGO mode. It automatically triggers when you are low on health, and makes you deal more damage and gain HHgauge faster. That's what the sudden panels of the face of the characters we saw in earlier vids meant (I think it was Jousuke?) * Another In-game system: Kakugo mode. This mode also raises your attack, AND GIVES YOU SUPER ARMOR. Plus, you gain more HHgauge when you're hit. However, it seems only a few characters have access to it: they only confirm Giorno, Bucca, Mista, Hermes. No word on whether it's also automatic. These characters can't access GOGOGO mode.
Pesci is confirmed as the stage gimmick and Situation finish of the Firenze station. AND SECCO IS A STAGE GIMMICK IN THE COLOSSEUM. What was Cioccolata's alleged VA doing, then? DIO's manor gimmick seems to be limited to killing DIO (or any character weak to sunlight?), and punching him into the sun. Strange it doesn't seem to involve Cream... Vanilla as a stage gimmick, or later character? The Situation Finish of the eyed wall involves scaring Yasuho until she screams, and Jôshû arrives and finishes the opponent with a brick. O....K???
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Iggy 9568th Post
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| "Re(1):Pucchi and Classic Dio confirmed for AS" , posted Wed 26 Jun 18:37:
quote: Yay to Dio, eeeghh... to Pucchi. Then again, we'll get to beat him up so it's not all that bad.
I'm really surprised they didn't show any of the other characters of part 6 with Pucci... F.F., Annasui and Weather are all legitimate in their own way. But then, they are part 6 characters, so I'm OK if they're left out. Also, I thought he would only have White Snake, in the same way Kira doesn't have Stray Cats/Bites the Dust, but he seems to have all his 3 stands... I wonder what they're going to do with Made in Heaven (insta-end of the universe? An ant falls on the battleground?) and even more C-Moon (he touches you, the CERO of the game goes up 2 degrees?).
quote: Hope they throw in LisaLisa!
Now that Buccelati is in, she's my highest bet for DLC. I believe that the parts 2, 4 and 5 will be 5 base characters +1 DLC. 4 already has Kira as DLC, 5 has a surprising low amount of characters compared to its popularity, and Lisalisa is really all sorts of needed if you think of the anime, the lack of females in the cast... Maybe Part 3 will also have 1 extra DLC, pumping it up to 7 characters when the TV series start? Difficult to say for parts 6 and 7, and parts 1 and 8 are probably good as they are.
Speaking of DLC: they are launching a set of figures of SBR, with 8 SD characters、one big Gyro, and the super big rare price is... a new outfit for Johnny in ASB. They are really going to milk the hell out of the game.
Not that I'm complaining.
EDIT Pucci seems to have a gauge with 14 slots of his own to evolve. And people thought Naruhodo in UMvC3 had a rough time!
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Iggy 9574th Post
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| "Re(3):Just like the real thing" , posted Fri 5 Jul 18:52
quote: People noticed a human player was controlling the game at times although it's supposed to be CPU vs CPU, which is understandable.
Really? Twice, Ceaser did his air projectile far above the opponents, and the opponents, typical dumb-AI-style, jumped to get hit by the projectile... This whole tournament is dumb, anyway. I don't see the point of showing AI playing instead of real, competent players that could showcase the game better. And nobody expect it to be truly random, as it's obvious the popular characters will end up winning. Oh well, nothing else to see until we get more info about Pucci and Dio next week.
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Professor 3787th Post
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| "Re(4):Just like the real thing" , posted Sat 6 Jul 02:23:
quote: Really? Twice, Ceaser did his air projectile far above the opponents, and the opponents, typical dumb-AI-style, jumped to get hit by the projectile... This whole tournament is dumb, anyway. I don't see the point of showing AI playing instead of real, competent players that could showcase the game better. And nobody expect it to be truly random, as it's obvious the popular characters will end up winning. Oh well, nothing else to see until we get more info about Pucci and Dio next week.
I didn't look through the whole show, but the Holhorse vs Avdol match starts off with a human controlling Holhorse (Player_1 vs COM_1), then switches to (COM_1 vs COM_2) inbetween the cutted scenes. Probably to showcase some movements.
But yeah, there doesn't seem to have been much effort put into the AI for this game. Of course, that isn't something unexpected.
What was unexpected though, was that the show was only 30 mins long... wow, that was short.
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Iggy 9596th Post
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| "Re(7):Made in heaven" , posted Thu 25 Jul 22:07:
quote: Is this like Phoenix in UMvC3 where she's pretty crappy until she gets Dark Phoenix and then only a select few can even touch her?
I think it's more like Naruhodo/Phoenix Wright where you need to collect evidence/prepare your transformation with the Green Baby gauge while you're in your weakest form. Also, each stands loses the moves of the previous one, while Kôichi (and I believe Johnny?) have access to all the versions of their stands.
I suppose his gameplan should be about avoiding the opponent as long as possible until he can transform. Rohan's moves seem to be about incapacitating the opponent then pressing your advantage, while White Snake incapacitates then runs away to say his 14 words. It all depends on the power of White Snake's moves, and how laggy it is to say each of the 14 words... From the wording, it seems the transformation into Made in Heaven is very slow (after seeing Giorno's GER transformation, it could be several real-time seconds). But C-moon alone seems already quite deadly, with a few unblockable specials.
ディオ is... simple. I wonder how the weakness to hamon will work out... Will the characters weak to hamon end up high tier except in a few select matchups, low tier regardless, and will it push up the 4 hamon users up the chart? Hum... I'm taking for granted the game will actually be played competitively, which is probably an even greater bet than thinking the game would end up any good to begin with.
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Iggy 9604th Post
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| "Re(4):Dirty Killer" , posted Tue 6 Aug 19:51
quote: キャンペーン第1弾で解放できるキャラを含む 34キャラの技を紹介
"Featuring the movelists for 34 characters including the unlockable characters from Campaign #1"
I wonder if that includes DLC Kira or not, leaving room for 2 characters... Or maybe he's not really DLC, simply unlockable in the game? That would be strange, but who knows.
In a surprising turn of events, Famitsu decided to cover for the lack of updates to the official site by making their own. http://www.famitsu.com/sp/130805_jojo/
Is Pucci holding the green baby in his neutral stance? Some interesting bit: "Vampire" is written as Dio's exclusive style, and "Mode" are exclusive to Whamu, Esidisi and Kars. So on one hand it rules out characters nobody really wanted such as Santana or Bluford, but on the other hand, "Hamon" doesn't say it's exclusive to Jonathan, Joseph, Zeppeli and Ceasar (leaving room for Lisalisa?) and "Horse riding" says it's Johnny and Gyro's style, without specifying "and only their". Who knows if that leaves room for Diego or Hot Pants. Or if they'll try to be adventurous and have a horse riding Hol...Horse. Obviously, "Stand" is still a wide open category.
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Iggy 9609th Post
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| "Re(1):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Wed 7 Aug 21:34:
New PV with the 4 last bosses (Dio, Kawajiri Kira, Pucci and Valentine). PLENTY of new PNJ in the menus, Giacco, Abbacchio, Ringo... Even more interesting are the characters that we haven't seen in the menus: Annasui, Iggy, Shtroheim, Lisalisa, Diego, Vanilla... COULD IT MEAN SOMETHING.
Emporio's voice is amazingly annoying.
The tournament of the bosses (plus poor Kakyoin) has started: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jojoasbl Valentine is surprisingly awesome!
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Pollyanna 3545th Post
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| "Re(2):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Thu 8 Aug 06:53:
quote: New PV with the 4 last bosses (Dio, Kawajiri Kira, Pucci and Valentine). PLENTY of new PNJ in the menus, Giacco, Abbacchio, Ringo... Even more interesting are the characters that we haven't seen in the menus: Annasui, Iggy, Shtroheim, Lisalisa, Diego, Vanilla... COULD IT MEAN SOMETHING.
Emporio's voice is amazingly annoying.
The tournament of the bosses (plus poor Kakyoin) has started: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jojoasbl Valentine is surprisingly awesome!
Link is down. Here's another.
Valentine DOES look awesome! There are some characters that might not be my favorite in the series, but still make cool fighting game characters. I even got excited seeing Pucci, who I distinctly dislike.
I didn't even think to expect costumes for some reason. I had let my hype die down a bit, but that trailer got me jittery with excitement.
EDIT: Oops, Toxico beat me to the link. Now you have options! Identical options!
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Iggy 9613th Post
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| "Re(1):Jojo ASB thread-fabulous discussions we" , posted Fri 9 Aug 00:25
quote: Latest rumor from a shueisha site is that the cast will be 32 + 2 DLC (it's one of the links to the guide) .... Dunno where the site is, though
Yes, that's the article the Prof linked to! It's a guide for 34 characters "including the one/s of Campaign 1". Either campaign 1=Kira only, (and there's another default character that's still hidden) or there's a second DLC character to be released with the game. Plus, "Campaign 1" means they have plans for several DLC campaigns, in case anyone was wondering. And look! The guide comes with a DLC code for Jôtarô's victory quote マヌケは見つかったようだな!
Sometimes I forget BanNam is also working on Idol M@ster.
EDIT: Interesting bit of information about Pucci (according to Twitter, so pinch of salt): he keeps his green baby gauge from one round to the other, including if his stand has already transformed into C-Moon. However, if he transforms into Made in Heaven, his stand goes back to C-Moon at the beginning of the following round.
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Iggy 9622th Post
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| "Harvest time" , posted Thu 15 Aug 19:48:
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I suppose they picked him over Yukako because he's a key character in the Kira scenario, while she's basically her own arc... Anyhow, it's great to finally have a character with a different body type and different stand type! Plus, part 4 is the "important" Jojo season that has been the less adapted (no anime, game, and almost no cameo in Jump crossovers), so it's nice to see the tables turned for once, especially since it's one of Araki's favourite moments and characters.
Shigechi looks like an interesting character to play as: he's the only stand-character to not have a regular, non-stand mode. Instead, the stand button makes Harvest shift from defense mode to attack mode and vice-versa. So he's basically a stance character.
I also wonder if it means the "campaigns" are part-specifics (like, campaign 2 would be part 6 characters, and so on). Since the encounter of Shigechi and Kira had such strong consequences on part 4, maybe the DLC characters will be released related to their importance in the manga? Like Vanilla and Iggy, Doppio and Risotto...? Also, will the DLC characters be included in the scenario mode? I've read Naruto was like that: all the DLC character are non-playable opponents in the game, and you have to buy the DLC to unlock them. That would be disappointing... but who knows. At least they would be integrated in the main thing... but it robs of the excitation of speculating over who the next character will be. We'll see. More characters is always a good thing anyway.
Anyhow, Oğuz was right, the figure on the display WAS a hint.
However, with 3 threads on 2ch consumed in half a day, the revelation is not pleasing everyone... Fans of part 5 right now.
Fans of part 4 right now. 8 characters for part 4, almost as many as part 1, 6 and 7 put together... As many as part 5+6...
PS: No, I don't know why they replaced his face on the scans. I think it's to fuck up afilisites.
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HokutoAndy 16th Post
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| "Re(3):Jojo ASB gets perfect 40/40 Famitsu sco" , posted Thu 22 Aug 01:02:
Here is a list of Famitsu's perfect score games
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998, Nintendo, for Nintendo 64)[9] Soulcalibur (1999, Namco, for Dreamcast)[10] Vagrant Story (2000, Square Co., for PlayStation)[10] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2003, Nintendo, for Nintendo GameCube)[10] Nintendogs (2005, Nintendo, for Nintendo DS)[10] Final Fantasy XII (2006, Square Enix, for PlayStation 2)[10] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (2008, Nintendo, for Wii)[11]
Am I going to enjoy this game more than SSBB? Soul Calibur? I think so.
I've been reading JoJolion. It is truly the most Bizarre of the JoJos, and definitely the most sexual (niiiipples!)
I don't think the series has progressed far enough for him to have a nice and big move set though. No main villain has appeared to really test his power to the limit either.
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Iggy 9633th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Jojo ASB gets perfect 40/40 Fami" , posted Sat 24 Aug 03:01
Interesting talk about Narutimate and Jojo ASB
http://www.gpara.com/article/cms_show.php?c_id=37730&c_num=37
* The game has been made in a year and a half (so the TGS build was 6 months old?). Character motions and moves were fixed during the first 3 months, and the rest seems to have been mostly crunch time. * The game is over the budget and costed more than what BanNam financed them, so they had to cover the rest with their own money. Which means they are in deficit (this is coherent with other declarations about the game and how they were prepared to take a blow in order to make the best fan game of their favourite manga) * With half a million orders, they hope to break even and might even get some money in royalties, but they're not sure of that.
Obviously that doesn't count the huge amount of money they'll make through the gruesome DLC... if the money goes to them. The game seems to have been a pretty big gamble. At the beginning, it was thought 100k would have been an OK result, but actually it would have probably meant the death of CC2. Glad to hear they'll come out well. Now let's hope the game is good and not trash like Kaizoku Musou... And since most of the investment in the models, engine and system has been payed back, a sequel would be much cheaper to make and could be profitable even with a fraction of the sales.
Still, 500k... Let's hope it doesn't end up an overordering situation that leads it to the wagon bin. To answer Chaz's questions about 2ch, the current thread is the 173th. That means that since last year TGS, more than 173 000 messages have been written. The game could sell 2 copies for each message posted. That's insane.
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Toxico 5831th Post
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| "Re(5):Re(10):Jojo ASB gets perfect 40/40 Fami" , posted Wed 28 Aug 16:15:
So, the craze of the pre-sales "get" has long started....
Interesting stuff that I have heard and of course I can't corroborate :
- The disk has "JP", "EU" & "US" folders; meaning that like pretty much every release in the current gen, where everything is in the disk even if you can't select it.
- DLC (original Kira & Fatty) doesn't show up (and have been rumored) in the VAs in the staff roll. Other characters that don't show up are :
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Fatty , Yoshikage Kira , Risotto , Anasui , Vanilla Ice
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- Characters that appear voiced in the staff roll (aka, they likely speak in the menus or stuff, though people are hoping for hidden unlocks) :
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Stroheim , Kosaku Kawajiri , Cioccolatta (assuming his voice actor is assuredly Naoya Uchida) DiNo (by Koyasu Takehito) , Emporio is voiced by Junko Kitanishi , Yasuho is voiced by Eri Kitamura , Joshu is voiced by Hiroaki Miura , F.F is voiced by Yoko Shiraishi
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Iggy 9641th Post
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| "Re(10):Re(10):Jojo ASB gets perfect 40/40 Fam" , posted Wed 28 Aug 22:52:
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