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"Random thread: Non-gaming edition vol.4" , posted Wed 19 Nov 09:05:post reply

The upcoming Dragon's Crown figures sculpted from Gouda Cheese's new artwork were on prototype display at a show this past weekend and Moeyo.com has photos. Be warned, the site is semi-NSFW!

http://www.moeyo.com/article/58683





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"Re(1):Random thread: Naruto thoughts" , posted Wed 26 Nov 14:30post reply

In a bit of random discussions, I read the last few chapters of Naruto a couple of days ago and was wondering what your thoughts about it were? To be honest, the last arch of the great ninja war went on too long and transitioned to too many things one after another. Fighting the Akatsuki to fighting the real Madara to fighting that woman who was the original chakara wielder to a Sasuke fight out of no where.

I would read a few chapters every few months for the last couple of years and I really couldn't get into the story. I think the series peaked for me when drunk Rock Lee and Gaara teamed up to fight Kimimaro and that was 10 years ago. There were way too many characters they went no where after a while and concepts that were just introduced and dropped such as the pokemon elemental weakness circle and the kage bushin giving knowledge to the real copy. There was also the problem almost every Shonen series faces where the characters power levels go way off the charts that it barely resembles the original "rules" established early in the series.

Speaking of Naruto. Anyone keep up with our old forum friend Naruto? I wonder what his thoughts were.





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"Little Witch Academia sequel" , posted Wed 26 Nov 21:10:post reply

According to this scan a sequel to Little Witch Academia is coming next year.

...come to think, I missed the original one!




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The manga series, I lost track somewhere around the episodes where the old guy with the frog died (Jiraiya).





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"Re(1):Little Witch Academia sequel" , posted Thu 4 Dec 04:07:post reply

I'm a bit late on this one but I just learned that Bunta Sugawara passed away.

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To keep this from just being a dreary obit post I thought I would mentioned I recently picked up the art book SF25: The Art of Street Fighter. At 448 pages this sucker is thick as a brick. When reading be certain to lift with your legs! Some of the commentary on the artwork has been recycled from previous art books which is a shame but I guess there's only so much you can say about a piece. I know I would be hard pressed to constantly think up amusing anecdotes about projects I had done at work. One thing I found particularly interesting was a series of short interviews with various Capcom personnel. In those discussions I learned all manner of things, such as that the ideas that Hiroshi Matsumoto had for the nameless man in the SF1 title screen were used to create Terry Bogard or that Atsushi Tomita (Tomichin) is Kinu Nishimura's brother. If someone published a book on fighting game trivia I would buy it in a heartbeat. Perhaps I'm easily amused but I'm still amazed that so many art books for games are being published in English. It certainly beats paying import prices.





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"Re(2):Little Witch Academia sequel" , posted Thu 4 Dec 19:41post reply

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In those discussions I learned all manner of things, such as that the ideas that Hiroshi Matsumoto had for the nameless man in the SF1 title screen were used to create Terry Bogard or that Atsushi Tomita (Tomichin) is Kinu Nishimura's brother.


OMG, proto-Cody was also proto-Terry!

quote:
If someone published a book on fighting game trivia I would buy it in a heartbeat. Perhaps I'm easily amused but I'm still amazed that so many art books for games are being published in English. It certainly beats paying import prices.



If only Udon would expand past the Capcom stuff...





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"Re(3):Little Witch Academia sequel" , posted Thu 4 Dec 23:38post reply

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If only Udon would expand past the Capcom stuff...


At least they put out those Valkyria Chronicles books. Sadly Udon is doing a better job of supporting the franchise internationally than Sega at this point.





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"The Cleaning Tiger meets The Ramen Dragon" , posted Fri 5 Dec 04:50post reply

Finally the cross-over we have all been waiting for. Même Narumi est épatée !

And a really nice blog about fonts and science fiction.





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"Re(1):The Cleaning Tiger meets The Ramen Drag" , posted Sat 13 Dec 14:51post reply

I thought I just saw a message about Grave/naughtysecrets? I Hope he's ok.





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"Re(2):The Cleaning Tiger meets The Ramen Drag" , posted Sun 14 Dec 02:43post reply

I found this promotional image of the new Digimon anime
http://i.imgur.com/FyvVAdu.jpg

I don't like a lot this art style.





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"Re(2):The Cleaning Tiger meets The Ramen Drag" , posted Sun 14 Dec 06:22post reply

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I thought I just saw a message about Grave/naughtysecrets? I Hope he's ok.


I saw it too. It looks like there was something going on with Grave's Twitter account, but looks like he's posting again now (or as of yesterday), so... not sure!





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"Million Arthur Season 1 all-run" , posted Fri 19 Dec 02:53:post reply

Partly drama, partly musical, all Japanese-crazyness.
If you missed out on the budget (but oddly lovable) live act version of Square Enix's Million Arthur SNS game, there's going to be a season one all-run on Jan 2. Note: There's no English sub/dub.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv202809808



You can check Ep.1 here
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"Jojo Pt.3 Egypt chapter PV #2" , posted Sat 20 Dec 13:22:post reply




Iggy, Chaka, Mariah and more!






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"Merry Christmas!" , posted Thu 25 Dec 12:02post reply

Merry Christmas!

Seasons Greetings from Fox Home Entertainment (Ja)





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"New year, new advice" , posted Wed 7 Jan 22:20post reply

Author and pasta enthusiast Haruki Murakami will be temporarily working as an advice columnist. Play along with your bingo cards to see if he hits on all his favorite topics!





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"Re(1):New year, new advice" , posted Thu 8 Jan 02:52post reply

quote:
Author and pasta enthusiast Haruki Murakami will be temporarily working as an advice columnist. Play along with your bingo cards to see if he hits on all his favorite topics!



I can't imagine how many troll mails will be sent in. 1Q84 alone offers so much material (so of which is already inherently funny!) for having a laugh about that filtering through it all for legitimate questions is going to be a job all its own.

"Dear. Mr. Murakami,
I recently had a _perfect_ erection, and I believe it has now rendered me impotent..."





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"Re(2):New year, new advice" , posted Thu 8 Jan 04:25post reply

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I can't imagine how many troll mails will be sent in.
He's certainly likely to get sent on a wild sheep chase or two.

I plan to be civil assuming he tells me where the girl with the perfect ears went.





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"Recent anime" , posted Thu 15 Jan 21:26:post reply

I don't have much to say on the Jojo anime, since it follows the manga so closely. It's well done.

The new series by Ikuhara, Yurikuma Arashi, is WEIRD. At least, Utena fooled the viewer about being a normal Sailormoon clone for a couple of episodes, and Penguin Drum was normal for 10 strong minutes before someone shouted 生存戦略 and everything went batshit insane.
Here, from the very first minute, you are hit full force with that Attack on Titan clone, except all the giants have been replaced by cute lesbian bears from space, all humanity has been replaced by pure lesbian high-school girls with sniper rifles, Levy Taichô seems to have been replaced by Mature from KOF, and all the gruesome eating has been replaced by enthusiastic honey-covered stamen-licking. There is only one guy, called "Live Sexy" (yes, that's his name) and he's the judge of the yuri saiban where the court decides if the stamen of the heroin can be enthusiastically licked or not (so far, the answer has always been "yes").
But if you can go over these tiny adjustments, it seems to be really close to Attack on Titan.

On a no less surprising line, the new Yoru no Yatterman seems to be very good despite featuring a 9 years old Doronjo. She's actually fighting for justice in a world were the Yatterman seem to have decided that the best way to solve mankind's problems was to create a totalitarian fascist dictatorship. At least the first episode is great.
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"Re(1):Recent anime" , posted Fri 16 Jan 19:30post reply

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On a no less surprising line, the new Yoru no Yatterman seems to be very good despite featuring a 9 years old Doronjo. She's actually fighting for justice in a world were the Yatterman seem to have decided that the best way to solve mankind's problems was to create a totalitarian fascist dictatorship. At least the first episode is great.



So Doronjo is going full circle and turning into Devilotte?
(well, no, but damn, discovering this pic made me wish Capcom did more with the Cyberbots setting and puts Doronjo's TvC ending in even greater perspective)





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"Re(2):Recent anime" , posted Fri 16 Jan 22:59post reply

I've just (5 minutes ago) seen that there was a Viewtiful Joe anime. Is it any good?





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"Re(3):Recent anime" , posted Tue 20 Jan 11:46post reply

Murder, she





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"Re(4):Recent anime" , posted Tue 20 Jan 17:47:post reply

Jamie Lee Curtis, in a recent interview stated repeatedly "I play ALOT of Street Fighter"

http://www.myfoxdc.com/Clip/11047065/fox-beat-jamie-lee-curtis-stars-in-new-film-spare-parts

She is a Cammy player. From the sounds of the interview it seems she's planning on taking her son to EVO as a high school graduation present.






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"R.I.P. Kazumasa Hirai" , posted Wed 21 Jan 01:01post reply

The creator of 8 Man (and collaborator on the awesome Spiderman manga) Kazumasa Hirai has died at 76. Odd, for some reason I would have thought he was older.





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"Re(5):Recent anime" , posted Wed 21 Jan 01:44post reply

quote:
Jamie Lee Curtis, in a recent interview stated repeatedly "I play ALOT of Street Fighter"

http://www.myfoxdc.com/Clip/11047065/fox-beat-jamie-lee-curtis-stars-in-new-film-spare-parts

She is a Cammy player. From the sounds of the interview it seems she's planning on taking her son to EVO as a high school graduation present.



But who does Christopher Guest main? I would have thought it would be a strange, unique experience growing up in a household where not only are your parents famous but your grandparents are Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh. Instead it apparently involves hanging around playing Street Fighter. Still, I'm glad to see Jamie Lee Curtis is supporting the next generation of players. We need less soccer moms and more fighting game moms.

quote:
Murder, she



Thirty seconds in and she's mucking about with the Oculus Rift. Perhaps she's using it to solve the death of that Milo kid who was supposed to live inside the Kinect?





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"Re(6):Recent anime" , posted Wed 21 Jan 03:42post reply

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I would have thought it would be a strange, unique experience growing up in a household where not only are your parents famous but your grandparents are Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh. Instead it apparently involves hanging around playing Street Fighter.



Well, if being young and rebellious means hanging out with punks and hip street kids, for a kid coming from a very affluent background, at that time it might well include hanging out at a bar with an SF2 cab.





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"Re(7):Recent anime" , posted Thu 22 Jan 05:45post reply

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I would have thought it would be a strange, unique experience growing up in a household where not only are your parents famous but your grandparents are Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh. Instead it apparently involves hanging around playing Street Fighter.


Well, if being young and rebellious means hanging out with punks and hip street kids, for a kid coming from a very affluent background, at that time it might well include hanging out at a bar with an SF2 cab.


That's why I like this story; games aren't viewed as some sort of rebellion, instead his mom is playing as well and from the sounds of it is sending him to Evo. We've reached the point where games aren't an oddity but are simply another recreational choice. The idea of an intergenerational fighting game family also has its charms. I know my family get-togethers would be much more entertaining if we could run a tournament during our gatherings. I hope you've been practicing your combos grandma, because you are going down!





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"Re(8):Recent anime" , posted Thu 22 Jan 05:58post reply

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That's why I like this story; games aren't viewed as some sort of rebellion, instead his mom is playing as well and from the sounds of it is sending him to Evo. We've reached the point where games aren't an oddity but are simply another recreational choice. The idea of an intergenerational fighting game family also has its charms. I know my family get-togethers would be much more entertaining if we could run a tournament during our gatherings. I hope you've been practicing your combos grandma, because you are going down!



Now that I've actually watched the clip, it's hilarious how offended she seems when asked if she plays Ken/Ryu.

I can see her telling her son already, "that interviewer was a scrub, I would wreck him"





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"tasteless penguins" , posted Tue 17 Feb 09:56post reply

Penguins don't have the genetic ability to sense the meaty, savory "umami" taste, and they wouldn't flinch at a peck of bitter herbs either, according to a new study.

gearing up communications infrastruture for Penguinists 2016 campaign





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"Re(1):tasteless penguins" , posted Tue 17 Feb 15:06post reply

Jodorowsky is having a kickstarter for his next movie.

The target budget is $3 million, which seems low.

The backer bonuses, well, I'll just quote the site:
"Jodorowsky thinks that all money should be transformed into poetry. And so that is what he will do with this Kickstarter project. No matter what level you pledge at, Jodorowsky will exchange your pledge into his brand new Poetic Money (DINERO POÉTICO) and send it back to you. This money can't be spent on any material goods -- only on the poetry of the universe.

The exchange rate is 1US$=1DP.

(In the case of $10,000 or more pledge, it is 0.5US$=1DP)

There are 3 bill denominations: 1DP, 10DP and 100DP. Each bill has an original money-related poem written by Jodorowsky printed on it in Spanish. There are two versions of each DP bill, each version of the bill presenting a different poem. There are 6 kinds of bills in total.

Jodorowsky wants to fill the world with poetry. So when you pledge, please mumble a poem in your heart. If you have a twitter account, please tweet a poem with #EndlessPoetryMyPoem. Your poem will be on the official site of ENDLESS POETRY (Poesía Sin Fin)."





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"Re(1):tasteless penguins" , posted Tue 17 Feb 23:25post reply

quote:
Penguins don't have the genetic ability to sense the meaty, savory "umami" taste, and they wouldn't flinch at a peck of bitter herbs either, according to a new study.

gearing up communications infrastruture for Penguinists 2016 campaign



Wow this is incredible!
So penguins can't enjoy the taste of sprinkling Ajinomoto on watermelon or aged Parmesean on pasta?
Say it ain't true!




I wonder if Penguins can taste chicken





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"Re(2):tasteless penguins" , posted Wed 18 Feb 01:44post reply

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DP can't be spent on any material goods -- only on the poetry of the universe


Why would the frog lie to me?





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"Re(2):tasteless penguins" , posted Wed 18 Feb 03:23post reply

quote:
The backer bonuses, well, I'll just quote the site:
"Jodorowsky thinks that all money should be transformed into poetry. And so that is what he will do with this Kickstarter project. No matter what level you pledge at, Jodorowsky will exchange your pledge into his brand new Poetic Money (DINERO POÉTICO) and send it back to you. This money can't be spent on any material goods -- only on the poetry of the universe.

Glad to see that Jodorowsky is still unrepentant about being Jodorowsky. Transforming all money into the poetry of the universe is nuts but it still makes more sense than bitcoins.





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"Nintendo Q3 Financial Briefing" , posted Thu 19 Feb 03:18post reply

I can't be the only one entertained by the fact that PoPoLoCrois is a part of the "all-star" lineup.

" it is fair to say that "Tomodachi Life" has achieved good results. It is also notable that the sales in one European country, France, have surpassed those in the U.S." which I assume is entirely the results of chaz and Iggy's underground campaigning.





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"All-Star line-up" , posted Thu 19 Feb 08:44post reply

quote:
I can't be the only one entertained by the fact that PoPoLoCrois is a part of the "all-star" lineup.



Not only BetrayalCrois but the demake of the remake of Atelier Rorona. I am not sure that one will be a double million seller.

I am not sure if I should be offended that the success of Tomodachi Life in France is considered "non-gaming news"!





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"Re(1):All-Star line-up" , posted Thu 19 Feb 08:58post reply

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I am not sure if I should be offended that the success of Tomodachi Life in France is considered "non-gaming news"!

Actually, I think Spoon's Nintendo post was probably just misplaced. So back on track: what is the best new cheese you have experienced in the past six months? If this grows bigger it can have its own thread.





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"Re(2):All-Star line-up" , posted Thu 19 Feb 09:17post reply

quote:
I am not sure if I should be offended that the success of Tomodachi Life in France is considered "non-gaming news"!
Actually, I think Spoon's Nintendo post was probably just misplaced. So back on track: what is the best new cheese you have experienced in the past six months? If this grows bigger it can have its own thread.



Maou has the right of it, I just clicked on the thread title that said "Random" and it happened to be the wrong random. Moving to there!





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"Re(2):All-Star line-up" , posted Thu 19 Feb 09:52post reply

I never really gave morbier a chance until a few days ago. Not too strong, very fruity, and the taste doesn't stay too long in the mouth to corrupt whatever you eat next. Typically one of those cow cheeses that are better before a meal and with white wine rather than at the end of a meal with red wine. Easy to cut and conserve, too, which is convenient for my current lifestyle.





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"Re(3):All-Star line-up" , posted Thu 19 Feb 20:26post reply

My latest discovery is the Cacciattona, very dry, strong flavours, and works amazingly with quince paste.
Not a discovery because Gorgonzola is fantastic anyway, but the one sold at this shop, by the ladle, is something else. Just thinking about it makes me hungry.





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"Re(4):All-Star line-up" , posted Fri 20 Feb 04:15:post reply

quote:
My latest discovery is the Cacciattona, very dry, strong flavours, and works amazingly with quince paste.
Not a discovery because Gorgonzola is fantastic anyway, but the one sold at this shop, by the ladle, is something else. Just thinking about it makes me hungry.



The correct spelling is "Caciottona" ;)
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"Re(5):All-Star line-up" , posted Fri 20 Feb 20:04post reply

quote:
The correct spelling is "Caciottona" ;)
Offical site

I feel cheated! I had so much faith in the people of this shop, and they deceive me like that?!
I'm going to finish the Délice de Bourgogne left in the fridge to wash away the disappointment.





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"Re(4):All-Star line-up" , posted Sat 21 Feb 04:43post reply

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Gorgonzola sold by the ladle



I'm imagining a barrel of amorphous, oozing Gorgonzola into which a soup ladle plunged in brims with the stuff before tipping it into ... whatever kind of container would be used to courier such a thing.

It's like food from a bad dream.





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"Re(5):All-Star line-up" , posted Sat 21 Feb 23:56post reply

quote:
I'm imagining a barrel of amorphous, oozing Gorgonzola into which a soup ladle plunged in brims with the stuff before tipping it into ... whatever kind of container would be used to courier such a thing.


That's exactly how it goes. I'll try to remember to take a picture next time I refill.





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"Sega vs Capcom" , posted Fri 27 Feb 09:01post reply

In comic book form.





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"Re(1):Sega vs Capcom" , posted Fri 27 Feb 14:00post reply

quote:
In comic book form.



If I could get a SEGA Racing game with that cast I would be happy. Hopefully we get some classic game inspired covers in the run. I decided to collect the Sonic/Megaman crossover all because there was a Marvel vs Capcom inspired cover.





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"Re(2):Sega vs Capcom" , posted Sat 28 Feb 03:29post reply

A Capcom crossover illustration without Chun-Li? I'm shocked. Really shocked.

But it's a great illustration! Kudos to whoever did it!

Who's the woman wearing a bikini (close to Ryu), by the way?





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"Re(3):Sega vs Capcom" , posted Sat 28 Feb 03:50post reply

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Who's the woman wearing a bikini (close to Ryu), by the way?



She's the female playable character from Golden Axe





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"Re(4):Sega vs Capcom" , posted Sat 28 Feb 04:02post reply

quote:

Who's the woman wearing a bikini (close to Ryu), by the way?


She's the female playable character from Golden Axe



Oh, sure, Tyris! I'm surprised she was chosen over Gilius, but it's a nice change. Thanks for the answer!





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"Penguin" , posted Thu 9 Apr 23:43post reply

So cute.





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"Re(1):Penguin" , posted Fri 10 Apr 19:49post reply

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http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/adelie-penguin-antarctica/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social

So cute


I have no idea how Facebook works but I like to think that you have a Penguin alert on yours.





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"Re(2):Penguin" , posted Sat 11 Apr 21:53post reply

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http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/adelie-penguin-antarctica/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social

So cute

I have no idea how Facebook works but I like to think that you have a Penguin alert on yours.


Doesn't everyone set their Facebook preferences to the "penguin" option?





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"Hideo Kojima's transplanted head" , posted Fri 24 Apr 11:20post reply

This is too good to be true. Visionary doctor Sergio Canavero threatens to demand Konami and Hideo Kojima; claims that the whole head transplant story is just a huge viral campaign for MGS V arise all over the interwebs. I'm having so much fun with all those conspiranoic theories.

I must admit some on them sound kind of convincing, tough. Could this be the final realization of that obscure tweet Kojima made circa 2010, claiming that his next project would try to pull off something so groundbreaking that he might even have to leave the industry depending on the result? Keep following the news if your would know!





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"Re(1):Hideo Kojima's transplanted head" , posted Fri 24 Apr 22:19:post reply

In related news, Snake's JA voice actor was spotted infiltrating an electronics shop in Akihabara and selling his new book "Don't Become a Voice Actor".

https://twitter.com/seikaisha_imai/status/591531109462253569/video/1

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"Re(1):Hideo Kojima's transplanted head" , posted Sat 25 Apr 00:48post reply

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This is too good to be true. Visionary doctor Sergio Canavero threatens to demand Konami and Hideo Kojima; claims that the whole head transplant story is just a huge viral campaign for MGS V arise all over the interwebs. I'm having so much fun with all those conspiranoic theories.

I didn't know about this before and after reading that article I still have no idea what's going on. When I first played MGS I wondered what the game would inspire in years to come and what Hideo Kojima's legacy would be. I never imagined it would all turn into idiotic conspiracy theories.





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"New Square tech demo" , posted Fri 1 May 04:33:post reply

Remember Aghni's philosophy, the amazing realtime tech demo Squenix showed a few years ago? There's a new (albeit extremely brief) demo that they showed today with an updated version of the engine, showing the titular character. This demo is named in the nonsensical manner that we should expect all of the projects Tabata's involved in from now on: WITCH CHAPTER 0 [cry]

I hope the next one is named Cry-On...

nvidia marketing blurb about it, doesn't say anything interesting technically aside from the fact that this level of quality absolutely will not be available to consumers for the next... several years, going by Moore's law. Seriously, this thing is running on a setup with FOUR Titan X's, and each Titan X costs $1000 USd.





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"Square Enix releases Bravely 2nd Agnes MMD" , posted Sun 3 May 17:12post reply

This is quite a surprise! Square Enix has released a Miku Miku Dance model data for Agnes from Bravely Second. It can be downloaded from their official site.

http://www.jp.square-enix.com/second/mmd-download.html





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"what year is it in this music video" , posted Tue 2 Jun 19:09:post reply

I'm curious what era of pop music in Japan this is trying to emulate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6CNN7FFP4s


The television shown at the start is certainly an old CRT one, but I couldn't put a year to it except "older than the 1990s". The staging of it makes me think of the Ed Sullivan Show circa 1960s, but I don't know how that fashion and presentation maps to Japan time-period-wise. The camera work on the big stage is certainly a lot more modern.

Also, given that this video is from Warner Music Japan, it's probably a mainstream act, but I have to ask if non-ironic musical acts of this nature are now a thing there.





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"Re(1):what year is it in this music video" , posted Tue 2 Jun 19:59:post reply

This is 歌謡曲 style, so I'd say late 60s / early 70s, before the French "idoles" wave (Francoise Hardy, Sylvie Vartan and other Yé-yé girls) influenced the evolution towards "aidoru" and their typically more relaxed (and kinkier) performance style.

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"computer image segmentation" , posted Sun 28 Jun 08:25post reply

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"Not Pasta" , posted Mon 29 Jun 05:59:post reply

What do you get when you develop a new pasta-style cup noodle and actually take it on a taste test to the streets of Gragnano, Italy?

A pretty funky ad




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"Re(1):Not Pasta" , posted Mon 29 Jun 18:40post reply

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What do you get when you develop a new pasta-style cup noodle and actually take it on a taste test to the streets of Gragnano, Italy?

A pretty funky ad




not pasta



Haha that's brilliant. Truth in advertising. Now I actually want to try one.






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"Re(2):Not Pasta" , posted Mon 29 Jun 22:41post reply

If they ever make another Fighters Megamix Mr. Pasta Judge needs to be included in the roster.





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"Re(3):Not Pasta" , posted Tue 30 Jun 07:19post reply

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If they ever make another Fighters Megamix Mr. Pasta Judge needs to be included in the roster.

If I could run a Mr. Pasta vs. Pepsiman match, I'd never need to buy another video game.

Also, it's such a heartbreaking commercial that it makes me want to buy them just to support the chef! So I guess that counts as an advertising success. Some relief based on some of the pasta doubters at least saying at the end, "It's not pasta...but it's delicious!"





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"Re(4):Not Pasta" , posted Tue 30 Jun 13:55post reply

On television right now is Chinatown Kid, a Shaw Brothers movie from 1979.

The main character often fights wearing a sleeveless jean jacket but no shirt underneath, and a jean jacket underneath. If he had a different hairdo, he would straight up be Billy from Double Dragon. He's also transplanted into the Chinatown of San Francisco. It's _deliciously_ quaint. At one point him and the poor college student who he shares a tiny room with can't sleep, and even though both of them are working stupidly hard for puny pay at a restaurant, he remarks that he's got a great opportunity and that "nobody goes hungry in the US!"

And this being the cusp of the 80s, there are still people wearing bell-bottoms. I can feel the spirit of the collective imaginations of SNK being fired by this movie, even now.





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"Verdict: NOT PASTA" , posted Wed 1 Jul 13:54:post reply

I had to go through 7-8 shops before finding a place that wasn't sold out! The Ad must've really caught everyone's attention.

The Photo: http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/imageboard/file/notpasta.jpg

The verdict: NOT PASTA
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Add water, throw out the water, add the two packets, mix and voila.
It looks like pasta but it's not pasta. It has the same thickness but it totally lacks the firmness of pasta. It's not ramen either, which is a good thing because Nissin's cup noodle ramen series is awfully soggy compared to other company's products since it still uses Fried process. I salute the Italian taste testers that helped out in this Ad because the product wasn't that great!


About Fried process:
This pasta cup noodle actually uses fried process just like Nissin's usual cup noodle, which is a shame since it otherwise could've been more like real pasta. Most instant ramen/noodle makers have switched to non-fried process for the domestic JP market since it gives the product a relatively genuine experience to eating out in the shops.





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"Re(1):Verdict: NOT PASTA, but Bad Dudes" , posted Wed 1 Jul 14:30post reply

One day I hope that Nissin realizes that fried process is at the heart of the one beloved Chinese noodles, yi mein, and that when properly handled it has a unique pillow softness coupled with a slight chewiness.

If they make a delicious instant yi mein, they will capture a market need that nobody ever knew they needed.

Given that they got you to buy a cup of it just for the sake of affirming the verdict, I'd count this as a fabulously successful campaign for a product that is admittedly inadequate. This will probably go down as a great story of limited success: after the interest is gone, I'm sure that the product just not being good enough will enable them to keep producing it, but with this campaign they managed to unload all of what they made.

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There are rom translations that I never knew I needed. One is for Bad Dudes in Arabic, which is as about zany a thing as I can imagine, and one is for the old Enix game Dark Half.

Dark Half has art that looks amazing, and an exciting premise: alternating chapters where you play as a villain and a hero.
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"Re(2):Verdict: NOT PASTA, but Bad Dudes" , posted Wed 1 Jul 14:47:post reply

quote:
Given that they got you to buy a cup of it just for the sake of affirming the verdict, I'd count this as a fabulously successful campaign for a product that is admittedly inadequate. This will probably go down as a great story of limited success: after the interest is gone, I'm sure that the product just not being good enough will enable them to keep producing it, but with this campaign they managed to unload all of what they made.


The ad certainly did wonders!
I haven't quite seen a web ad as good as this one was (not that much budget needed + effective) and that by itself it earned my 198 yen + tax.

I wouldn't nessesarily say the product was inadequate though-- Nissin's cup noodle series has always kept fried process for some reason, most likely since they want to keep the product's tradition since it has stable fans that love the cheapness of its taste. I didn't think they'd use it for this product too, but it's not surprising since they invented the process.





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"Re(3):Verdict: NOT PASTA, but Bad Dudes" , posted Thu 2 Jul 06:08post reply

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The ad certainly did wonders!
I haven't quite seen a web ad as good as this one was (not that much budget needed + effective) and that by itself it earned my 198 yen + tax.

I was going to go out and buy one to try out until I read your review and decided I was okay without it :(





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"Re(4):Verdict: NOT PASTA, but Bad Dudes" , posted Thu 2 Jul 06:24post reply

quote:
The ad certainly did wonders!
I haven't quite seen a web ad as good as this one was (not that much budget needed + effective) and that by itself it earned my 198 yen + tax.
I was going to go out and buy one to try out until I read your review and decided I was okay without it :(



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"Re(1):Verdict: NOT PASTA but Chicken" , posted Fri 3 Jul 04:48post reply

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The Photo: http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/imageboard/file/notpasta.jpg

The verdict: NOT PASTA


It's that greasy orange slime on the side of the cup that lets you know you are getting a quality serving of NOT pasta.

In keeping with the theme of food that you probably shouldn't put into your body, I was recently directed to the utterly bizarre online shrine to Colonel Sanders that Kentucky Fried Chicken has built. Test your skills at the mini-game where you try to help Sanders drop out of school in the sixth grade or watch a stage production of the time Sanders got into a gunfight with a the owner of a neighboring store!





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"Re(2):Verdict: NOT PASTA, but Bad Dudes" , posted Fri 3 Jul 06:00post reply

quote:

There are rom translations that I never knew I needed. One is for Bad Dudes in Arabic, which is as about zany a thing as I can imagine, and one is for the old Enix game Dark Half.

Dark Half has art that looks amazing, and an exciting premise: alternating chapters where you play as a villain and a hero.
Box Art

Chapter start splash image

Did anybody play Dark Half back in the day? I certainly played Bad Dudes.



After reading this I went and grabbed Dark Half right away. I never played it before but the title and concept sound familiar, I'll probably just go for a few chapters, but the alternating hero/villain chapters are interesting and I appreciate the translation team's dead-serious approach to dialogue.

"Allow me to bestow upon you the only certainty in this world..."

And although the NPC only has time to respond with "What? Arrgggh!" (or something) you know he has the horrifying realization that you're talking about death! Your life is forfeit, mortal! Mwaahahahahah.

The game certainly feels like a bit of a relic in some ways, but I love the overall look. This type of isometric art holds a special appeal for me. And the soul power mechanic is actually pretty interesting as well. Thanks for posting this!





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"Silent Hill Vancouver" , posted Tue 7 Jul 11:00post reply

I am 100% sure that at some point what is currently happening in the Lower Mainland of British Columbia is going to become the basis of some kind of horror movie. A vast number of forest fires have been burning over the past week, such that there are unprecedented levels of atmospheric haze. The mountains which famously form the skyline of the city literally cannot be seen. Famous vantage points in Vancouver no longer allow for views of Downtown or distant things at all. People are advised to not go outdoors or do physical activity outdoors for extended periods of time due to the health effects of the haze.

It might not be as bad as Beijing, and it basically makes everywhere smell like a campfire. Not being able to see the skyline or major landmarks and it not being due to some local fog is really weird.





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"Re(1):Silent Hill Vancouver" , posted Tue 7 Jul 20:57post reply

Spoon, great minds think blablabla, but a couple I know is planning to move to Vancouver next month or so.
Is the situation that bad? Is there any other thing they should be aware of?





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"Re(2):Verdict: NOT PASTA, but Bad Dudes" , posted Tue 7 Jul 21:01post reply

quote:

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There are rom translations that I never knew I needed. One is for Bad Dudes in Arabic, which is as about zany a thing as I can imagine, and one is for the old Enix game Dark Half.

Dark Half has art that looks amazing, and an exciting premise: alternating chapters where you play as a villain and a hero.
Box Art

Chapter start splash image

Did anybody play Dark Half back in the day? I certainly played Bad Dudes.


I played Bad Dudes when I was a kid. My mom used to take my NES because I was always yelling due to its difficulty. Memories, but it was pretty cool at the time.





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"Re(2):Silent Hill Vancouver" , posted Tue 7 Jul 22:47post reply

I'm quite some distance from the border but the forecast for today notes there could be a bit of haze due to the fires. I hope everyone is doing okay in Canada because the entire country must have a nice hickory smoked flavor to it by now.

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"Re(2):Silent Hill Vancouver" , posted Wed 8 Jul 01:58post reply

quote:
Spoon, great minds think blablabla, but a couple I know is planning to move to Vancouver next month or so.
Is the situation that bad? Is there any other thing they should be aware of?



It really isn't THAT bad. Forest fires due to heat waves are a regular occurrence in nature, this time is just a highly exceptional confluence of them. In the literally 30+ years my family has been in Vancouver, they've never seen anything like it.

The other thing they should be aware of is that after moving to Vancouver they will become Chinese food snobs, and will be unable to stomach the Chinese food of the rest of North America.





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"Re(3):Silent Hill Vancouver" , posted Wed 8 Jul 02:04post reply

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Vancouver doom fog

Cheerful proposal: Don't think of it as ominous Silent Hill fog, think of it as N64-style fog to obscure pop-up! I assume that this is basically what life looks like for Spoon in Vancouver lately.





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"Re(3):Silent Hill Vancouver" , posted Wed 8 Jul 04:14post reply

Thanks! I'll pass the message (and warning about Chinese food) to them.





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"Miyazaki to direct wholly CG movie?" , posted Sat 18 Jul 02:23post reply

Can anyone verify this?





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"Re(1):Miyazaki to direct wholly CG movie?" , posted Sat 18 Jul 07:40post reply

quote:
Can anyone verify this?



If I'm not mistaken, years ago Miyazaki wanted to make a movie about the human poop trade (a real thing that existed in Japan) that centered around a caterpillar. His producers of course told him "we can't dedicate a budget to a feature film about human shit!" Well ... Jokes on them now!

I feel like a crazy person typing this out cos i can't remember where i read this, but Im also pretty sure Im not just making this up cos how else would I have heard of the Japanese "night soil" trade where wealthy people's poop commanded a higher price?

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"The real danger of Vancouver" , posted Sun 19 Jul 21:39post reply

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The other thing they should be aware of is that after moving to Vancouver they will become Chinese food snobs, and will be unable to stomach the Chinese food of the rest of North America.


As Europeans arriving in Vancouver, they should more importantly be warned that the same little shumai or bao they recognize on the picture on the menu, will be the size of their heads when it arrives on the table, and there is no need to order six of them, or any second, let alone third plate for a complete dinner.





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"Re(1):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Mon 20 Jul 14:30post reply

quote:

As Europeans arriving in Vancouver, they should more importantly be warned that the same little shumai or bao they recognize on the picture on the menu, will be the size of their heads when it arrives on the table, and there is no need to order six of them, or any second, let alone third plate for a complete dinner.



I would like a picture of these Lilliputian items masquerading as Chinese food in Europe.

In other unrelated matters, the recent Pixar movie Inside-Out has the single best depiction of San Francisco I have ever seen in a movie, even beyond live action movies that are set in and shot in SF. From boutique pizza with atypical vegetable toppings, to the grey not-fog wet, to non-romanticized depictions of Painted Ladies, to the fact that the Bay Bridge exists and is just as important functionally as the Golden Gate bridge, to people who have relocated to SF being worried about the stock valuation of their company and being called away at a moment's notice and being worried about layoffs. Pixar studios being located so close to SF certainly helped their research, but it's just really, really accurate in capturing the whole feel of the place right now.





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"Re(2):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Mon 20 Jul 15:26post reply

quote:

As Europeans arriving in Vancouver, they should more importantly be warned that the same little shumai or bao they recognize on the picture on the menu, will be the size of their heads when it arrives on the table, and there is no need to order six of them, or any second, let alone third plate for a complete dinner.

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I would like a picture of these Lilliputian items masquerading as Chinese food in Europe.



So... not dim sum?

I'm actually finding the giant items to be weirder. In Hong Kong/Los Angeles/Toronto shumai are normally like four per order (and much smaller than your head) and steamed buns are three per order.

Here in LA, I've only seen what look like giant bao at a Korean dumpling shop. Check out this lovely fellow! (they call them King Dumplings) Vegetarian, too.

I've done some travelling in my life but I've never been to Vancouver. Hope to fix that in the not-so-distant future.





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"Re(3):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Mon 20 Jul 15:45post reply

quote:

In Hong Kong/Los Angeles/Toronto shumai are normally like four per order (and much smaller than your head)



Which is exactly what they're like in Vancouver, as well! They're NOT the size of your head! Which means that the ones in Europe must be TINY for the ones in Vancouver to be perceived to be that large!





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"Re(3):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Mon 20 Jul 15:51post reply

quote:

As Europeans arriving in Vancouver, they should more importantly be warned that the same little shumai or bao they recognize on the picture on the menu, will be the size of their heads when it arrives on the table, and there is no need to order six of them, or any second, let alone third plate for a complete dinner.

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I would like a picture of these Lilliputian items masquerading as Chinese food in Europe.


So... not dim sum?

I'm actually finding the giant items to be weirder. In Hong Kong/Los Angeles/Toronto shumai are normally like four per order (and much smaller than your head) and steamed buns are three per order.

Here in LA, I've only seen what look like giant bao at a Korean dumpling shop. Check out this lovely fellow! (they call them King Dumplings) Vegetarian, too.

I've done some travelling in my life but I've never been to Vancouver. Hope to fix that in the not-so-distant future.



I've only seen gigantic shumai in North America. I've seen giant bao tse everywhere though. There's a famous bao place in Chiang Mai that's been run for several generations by the same family. They have huge bao filled with ground meat, sliced sausge and salted duck eggs. So good!

Shumai tends to be very uniform so it's not that exciting to get a bigger version of it. Huge Baotse works cos you get a big jumble of complimenting flavors on the inside that change as you eat it.

LA and Vancouver have some of the best Chinese food in the world cos you can get the real deal made with better ingredients than you'd typically find in China (without breaking the bank--if you pay top dollar of course China still has the best Chinese food).






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"Re(4):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Mon 20 Jul 16:18post reply

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As Europeans arriving in Vancouver, they should more importantly be warned that the same little shumai or bao they recognize on the picture on the menu, will be the size of their heads when it arrives on the table, and there is no need to order six of them, or any second, let alone third plate for a complete dinner.

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I would like a picture of these Lilliputian items masquerading as Chinese food in Europe.


So... not dim sum?

I'm actually finding the giant items to be weirder. In Hong Kong/Los Angeles/Toronto shumai are normally like four per order (and much smaller than your head) and steamed buns are three per order.

Here in LA, I've only seen what look like giant bao at a Korean dumpling shop. Check out this lovely fellow! (they call them King Dumplings) Vegetarian, too.

I've done some travelling in my life but I've never been to Vancouver. Hope to fix that in the not-so-distant future.


I've only seen gigantic shumai in North America. I've seen giant bao tse everywhere though. There's a famous bao place in Chiang Mai that's been run for several generations by the same family. They have huge bao filled with ground meat, sliced sausge and salted duck eggs. So good!

Shumai tends to be very uniform so it's not that exciting to get a bigger version of it. Huge Baotse works cos you get a big jumble of complimenting flavors on the inside that change as you ea

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I had some giant buns in Tokyo as well but their size was the only noteworthy thing about them (not that they weren't good). The bao you're describing sounds delicious, I am so hungry right now having only eating a distinctly American bread item for dinner... biscuits out of a can with baked-in hot dog chunks. The thought of salted duck eggs actually has my mouth watering.

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"Re(5):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Mon 20 Jul 19:43post reply

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As Europeans arriving in Vancouver, they should more importantly be warned that the same little shumai or bao they recognize on the picture on the menu, will be the size of their heads when it arrives on the table, and there is no need to order six of them, or any second, let alone third plate for a complete dinner.

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I would like a picture of these Lilliputian items masquerading as Chinese food in Europe.


So... not dim sum?

I'm actually finding the giant items to be weirder. In Hong Kong/Los Angeles/Toronto shumai are normally like four per order (and much smaller than your head) and steamed buns are three per order.

Here in LA, I've only seen what look like giant bao at a Korean dumpling shop. Check out this lovely fellow! (they call them King Dumplings) Vegetarian, too.

I've done some travelling in my life but I've never been to Vancouver. Hope to fix that in the not-so-distant future.


I've only seen gigantic shumai in North America. I've seen giant bao tse everywhere though. There's a famous bao place in Chiang Mai that's been run for several generations by the same family. They have huge bao filled with ground meat, sliced sausge and salted duck eggs. So good!

Shumai tends to be very uniform so it's not that exciting to get a bigger version of it. Huge Baotse works cos you get a big jumble of complimenting flavors on the inside that change as you ea

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I live in Thailand. I was previously working in SF, and for a brief shining moment Spoon and I worked for the same gaming mega corp. Now I'm in Chiang Mai making my own games with some close buddies. Life is good!

If any of you dudes are ever in town let me know. We will eat well : 9






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"Re(6):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Tue 21 Jul 03:06post reply

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I live in Thailand. I was previously working in SF, and for a brief shining moment Spoon and I worked for the same gaming mega corp. Now I'm in Chiang Mai


Alas!

If you ever get nostalgic for the Bay Area, for that reason alone I would highly recommend Inside Out. It's also a good movie in its own right, too.

Are Andy and the rest of your crew there? Are you two still considered Thai citizens? The "Thailand strategy" was one me and some pals talked about some time ago, but we weren't sure how visas/immigration would work.





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"Re(7):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Tue 21 Jul 10:17:post reply

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I live in Thailand. I was previously working in SF, and for a brief shining moment Spoon and I worked for the same gaming mega corp. Now I'm in Chiang Mai

Alas!

If you ever get nostalgic for the Bay Area, for that reason alone I would highly recommend Inside Out. It's also a good movie in its own right, too.

Are Andy and the rest of your crew there? Are you two still considered Thai citizens? The "Thailand strategy" was one me and some pals talked about some time ago, but we weren't sure how visas/immigration would work.



Yup, the whole crew is here! Andy and I are Thai citzens, so no roadblocks for us (every company registered in Thailand must be at least 51% owned by Thai nationals, so if you're a foreigner you need a local partner who has to be the majority owner). Is "The Thailand Strategy" a big thing now? I see a lot of Digital Nomads in Chiang Mai these days.


I wouldn't suggest moving here just cos it's cheap. We're primarily here because we're focused on the SE Asian market whose tastes are very aligned with our own. Boy that sentence sounded very corporate!

What I mean is, everyone in the urban areas of Thailand likes the same stuff I do. Because of the widespread bootlegging culture of the 80s and 90s, people here grew up on pop culture from all over the world. Thai people have an incredible familiarity with pop culture from Japan, North America, China, Europe and of course SE Asia. It's like we had bittorrent 25 years before everyone else.

I can talk to the average youngish person here about Jungle King Tar-Chan, Tin Tin, Final Fantasy, Breaking Bad or Judge Bao. The average millenial gamer here knows what Pepsi Man is! I've met people who are huge Terry Prachet fans.

Just a few nights ago I had a great conversation with someone about Orlando Corradi and their incredible Lion King knock off cartoon where Simba shoots ki blasts from his hands (forward to 11:00).

I live down the street from a coffee shop that sells Range Murata doujinshii along with Katsuya Terada books, Visual novels (super popular here), The Art of Bravely Default and some cool local art books too.

A few weeks ago in Bangkok I was at a popular mall where they were having a mini comics convention open to the public. Next to the kids toy blocks booth, these dudes were selling their boys love shoujo series. No one batted an eye, it was just normal. Yaoi is sold everywhere, and I've seen it prominently displayed during "back to school" sales at departments stores.

It's kind of incredible. And they have no idea how sophisticated and broad their tastes are compared to the rest of the world. I also love that there's really not much of a concept of being a nerd here, people just like what they like. It's GREAT!

If you'd like to know more about registering a company in Thailand/Visas feel free to message me privately. If you'd like to know more about the local games industry I'd be happy to talk about it here.






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"Re(8):The real danger of Chuck Jones" , posted Wed 22 Jul 05:12post reply

@nobi: clearly a larger and longer discussion to be had elsewhere. Also the "fan ban" (i.e. illegal copy) culture that Chinese/HK kids were never discouraged from certainly had some curious effects. In some cases it's bad (many have no perception of substantial personal monetary value to those works of art since they're so used to getting them from free/almost free), and in some cases they're good (enormous exposure to all kinds of different media, legendary terrible subtitles, etc.). A few indie developers have posited that indies should straight up move to any country where the cost of living is substantially lower provided access to development essentials (e.g. power, water, internet, telecommunications, etc.) are easily available. For better or for worse, much like the movie/VFX industry, there are places in the world like Ireland which governmentally friendly to developing IT-related industries, and provided the business acumen is there to create a solid business case, relocation to places like that is viable as well. Taking just food and rent as the two most significant costs for garage development, Thailand has been attractive because of the pricing of those things. When one of my pals from Bangkok says that food that costs 2 USD/plate is "tourist priced", that's an awfully compelling argument to anybody used to paying SF prices.

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"Re(8):The real danger of Vancouver and SF" , posted Wed 22 Jul 05:26post reply

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I live in Thailand. I was previously working in SF, and for a brief shining moment Spoon and I worked for the same gaming mega corp. Now I'm in Chiang Mai

Alas!

If you ever get nostalgic for the Bay Area, for that reason alone I would highly recommend Inside Out. It's also a good movie in its own right, too.

Are Andy and the rest of your crew there? Are you two still considered Thai citizens? The "Thailand strategy" was one me and some pals talked about some time ago, but we weren't sure how visas/immigration would work.


Yup, the whole crew is here! Andy and I are Thai citzens, so no roadblocks for us (every company registered in Thailand must be at least 51% owned by Thai nationals, so if you're a foreigner you need a local partner who has to be the majority owner). Is "The Thailand Strategy" a big thing now? I see a lot of Digital Nomads in Chiang Mai these days.


I wouldn't suggest moving here just cos it's cheap. We're primarily here because we're focused on the SE Asian market whose tastes are very aligned with our own. Boy that sentence sounded very corporate!

What I mean is, everyone in the urban areas of Thailand likes the same stuff I do. Because of the widespread bootlegging culture of the 80s and 90s, people here grew up on pop culture from all over the world. Thai people have an incredible familiarity with pop cult

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great information indeed N0bi. Great to learn about other countries and what it has to offer. I love travelling around the world. Have not been to Thailand yet but it is one of my other countries soon hopefully.

Mosquiton I might be heading your area soon. How can i PM or email you? Spoon I was in your area last year for the first time but mainly in silicon valley. SF is huge and could not explore everything it had to offer.





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"Re(9):The real danger of Boston" , posted Wed 22 Jul 08:27post reply

Didn't we have a travellin'around the world thread? This will do.
I may or may not be sent to Boston for a couple of days by the end of summer. I probably won't have much time to visit the city, but in case I can secure an evening to spare, does any Café resident live there and would fancy a meeting to show me what real Boston Terriers look like?
(I'm moderately excited at the prospect of the trip, so I'm trying to look for reasons to accept the free plane ticket and the booze. Yes, I'm that lazy).





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"Re(10):The real danger of Boston" , posted Wed 22 Jul 11:43:post reply

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what real Boston Terriers look like?



Haha that's a great goal. From here on out I'm gonna try to see the local dog breed wherever I go.

I don't have much experience with Boston (other than getting my license plate stolen within an hour of arriving there years ago cos it was from another state and I guess someone was rushing for a Frat), but I've always wanted to go to this restaurant:

http://www.unionoysterhouse.com/

It's the oldest continuously operating restaurant in America. Not even 200, so it's pubescent by Western European or East Asian standards, but it still has a lot of history and supposedly their recipes can be traced back to the colonial era.

http://www.amazon.com/Union-Oyster-House-Cookbook-Restaurant/dp/0978689917






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"Re(10):The real danger of Boston" , posted Wed 22 Jul 12:19:post reply

quote:
Didn't we have a travellin'around the world thread? This will do.
I may or may not be sent to Boston for a couple of days by the end of summer. I probably won't have much time to visit the city, but in case I can secure an evening to spare, does any Café resident live there and would fancy a meeting to show me what real Boston Terriers look like?
(I'm moderately excited at the prospect of the trip, so I'm trying to look for reasons to accept the free plane ticket and the booze. Yes, I'm that lazy).


Iggy, I was in Boston last week :/
From my experience, you have to have anything lobster, clam chowder, and raw oysters. The best food item to have is the Lobster roll. Which is like more traditional pick up and eat food. Aside from that i heard the duck tours (ride\boat tour in one) are pretty cool. There is a mall\cooperate plaza that are connected to other buildings via walkway bridges.





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"Re(2):Re(10):The real danger of Raptors" , posted Thu 23 Jul 11:05post reply

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Universal and Amblin Entertainment's Jurassic World has hit $1.522 billion at the global box office, eclipsing The Avengers ($1.520 billion) to become the No. 3 movie of all time behind and Avatar ($2.788 billion) and Titanic ($2.186 billion), not accounting for inflation.

Jurassic World, directed by Colin Treverrow, has earned $614.3 million domestically, becoming only the fourth film to ever cross $600 million. Its overseas haul is $907.3 million.


I doubt even the most optimistic Jurassic Park fan predicted this new movie would upset The Avengers at the global box office.





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"Re(3):Re(10):The real danger of Raptors" , posted Thu 23 Jul 11:28post reply

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Universal and Amblin Entertainment's Jurassic World has hit $1.522 billion at the global box office, eclipsing The Avengers ($1.520 billion) to become the No. 3 movie of all time behind and Avatar ($2.788 billion) and Titanic ($2.186 billion), not accounting for inflation.

Jurassic World, directed by Colin Treverrow, has earned $614.3 million domestically, becoming only the fourth film to ever cross $600 million. Its overseas haul is $907.3 million.

I doubt even the most optimistic Jurassic Park fan predicted this new movie would upset The Avengers at the global box office.



Consider this: the biggest franchise release of the year still has yet to come, that being Star Wars.

We live in a year in which 3 of the top 10 grossing movies by opening week or by lifetime will have been released within literally months of each other. All three of which are franchise sequels, 2 of which are more than 10 years removed from their previous franchise entries.

Having been a fan of those awesome OPs for the Jojo revival, I can only say that I am 100% guilty of helping such things along.





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"Re(4):Re(10):The real danger of Raptors" , posted Thu 23 Jul 11:52post reply

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Universal and Amblin Entertainment's Jurassic World has hit $1.522 billion at the global box office, eclipsing The Avengers ($1.520 billion) to become the No. 3 movie of all time behind and Avatar ($2.788 billion) and Titanic ($2.186 billion), not accounting for inflation.

Jurassic World, directed by Colin Treverrow, has earned $614.3 million domestically, becoming only the fourth film to ever cross $600 million. Its overseas haul is $907.3 million.

I doubt even the most optimistic Jurassic Park fan predicted this new movie would upset The Avengers at the global box office.


Consider this: the biggest franchise release of the year still has yet to come, that being Star Wars.

We live in a year in which 3 of the top 10 grossing movies by opening week or by lifetime will have been released within literally months of each other. All three of which are franchise sequels, 2 of which are more than 10 years removed from their previous franchise entries.

Having been a fan of those awesome OPs for the Jojo revival, I can only say that I am 100% guilty of helping such things along.



It will be interesting to see if Star Wars has as much inherent global appeal as dinosaurs.






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"Re(5):Re(10):The real danger of Raptors" , posted Thu 23 Jul 12:12post reply

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Universal and Amblin Entertainment's Jurassic World has hit $1.522 billion at the global box office, eclipsing The Avengers ($1.520 billion) to become the No. 3 movie of all time behind and Avatar ($2.788 billion) and Titanic ($2.186 billion), not accounting for inflation.

Jurassic World, directed by Colin Treverrow, has earned $614.3 million domestically, becoming only the fourth film to ever cross $600 million. Its overseas haul is $907.3 million.

I doubt even the most optimistic Jurassic Park fan predicted this new movie would upset The Avengers at the global box office.


Consider this: the biggest franchise release of the year still has yet to come, that being Star Wars.

We live in a year in which 3 of the top 10 grossing movies by opening week or by lifetime will have been released within literally months of each other. All three of which are franchise sequels, 2 of which are more than 10 years removed from their previous franchise entries.

Having been a fan of those awesome OPs for the Jojo revival, I can only say that I am 100% guilty of helping such things along.


It will be interesting to see if Star Wars has as much inherent global appeal as dinosaurs.



An alternative way to ask it:
Does Star Wars have as much inherent global appeal as overtly American superheroes that may or may not have capes?

The quality of the special effects is going to be at the very least of the same caliber, if not more (this is Star Wars, so I expect it's going to get an extra-special effort from ILM). Disney will spare no expense and thought in the marketing of this, and their marketing has been instrumental in all of their most recent huge successes.





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"Star Wars in Vancouver" , posted Fri 24 Jul 06:23:post reply

Sobering thought: I'm pretty sure the original Star Wars movies never even released officially in Chinese theaters, so no inherent Chinese bonus there. Plus given that it's the V and VI writer and not Lucas, the writing may not be simple and stupid enough for easy global consumption compared with other blockbusters. On the plus side, less likelihood of Transformers-style pro-government pandering!

Spoon, quick, while you're here: favorite three spots in Vancouver, likely including Dim Sum. A friend's there this weekend and they may as well eat at Cafe-approved venues!





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"Re(6):Re(10):The real danger of Raptors" , posted Fri 24 Jul 06:24post reply

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It will be interesting to see if Star Wars has as much inherent global appeal as dinosaurs.


An alternative way to ask it:
Does Star Wars have as much inherent global appeal as overtly American superheroes that may or may not have capes?

Heck, the Transformers movies -a series that seems designed to be as alienating as possible- does terrific overseas business. Even if there are people on the planet who haven't been bombarded by the Star Wars lifestyle they will probably think the movie is somehow connected to Angry Birds and go see it anyway.





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"Re(1):Star Wars in Vancouver" , posted Fri 24 Jul 07:29post reply

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Spoon, quick, while you're here: favorite three spots in Vancouver, likely including Dim Sum. A friend's there this weekend and they may as well eat at Cafe-approved venues!



Malaysian:
Tropika (SPECIFICALLY the one on Cambie Street, the other branches are inferior). If you order only one item there, pick the laksa.

Mostly European:
Granville Island Public Market is a well-known attraction, and for good reason. Get fresh bagels, smoked fish, cured meat, fresh fruits, and good cheese there. It's a pleasant enough place to just be, and has a connecting boat to Stanley Park.

Dim Sum:
This is a tough one. I personally think that some of the good options that don't cost an arm and a leg are not in Vancouver proper, but in the directly adjacent and highly accessible Burnaby and Richmond.

The "new" (as in over the past few/several years, as opposed to the past decade+) hotness in Chinese cuisine around here is Shanghai and Taiwanese food. Taiwanese food lends itself well to cafes and has a Japanese slant that appeals to younger people, Shanghai food comes as a result of more mainlanders.

There's some really good Chinese places that have really great stuff in a somewhat ratty setting (which somehow feels right in its rattiness), but are clearly not fine-dining. The same goes for Japanese food: the "all you can eat" Japanese here is straight up better than the much pricier stuff further inland because we are blessed with being right by the fishers.





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"Re(2):Iggy in Vancouver" , posted Fri 24 Jul 13:52:post reply

Spoon for President/Prime Minister

Thanks! This information has been immediately forwarded to my operatives in the field. In recompense, maybe I will transcribe the "novel" of in-game events that exists within Lost Window if I manage to finish it first.

Iggy note: there's not that much to do in Boston but it seems pleasant in the summer. I think Grave might live there? Walk around Beacon Hill and eat at 75 Chestnut. Stay at the John Jeffries House which is delightful and cheap for the city (which is overpriced). The Boston Gardens are significanly better than the kind of shabby Boston Common park nearby. There's good banh mi in Chinatown, oddly enough. Most importantly, the aquarium has really splendid PENGUINS





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"Re(3):Iggy in Vancouver" , posted Fri 24 Jul 17:24post reply

Dim Sum / small plates Chinese notes:

Sun Sui Wah is frequently cited, but it's one of those "critical mass" cases of publicity. The funny thing about it is that right downstairs from it is a boardgaming place called Strategies.

The Dinesty restaurant group serves very good quality food. Their fresh xiao long bao are solid. There is one in Vancouver and one in Richmond. The contrast to Dinesty in Richmond is the rather nearby Top Shanghai Cuisine Restaurant, which is small and cramped and loud and cheaper and also excellent. Both are places where you'll want to order a clutch of small plates.

The Top Gun restaurant in Crystal Mall is quite decent, has the gimmick of letting everybody at the table pick their own tea and steep it themselves, and if you haven't had enough food yet, the Crystal Mall food court is surprisingly excellent (very much the not-fine-dining slightly ratty experience). The food court has places that serve freshly made noodles, freshly made dumplings/xiao long bao/etc., meat that has quantities of cumin that will frighten people from North America, etc.

A Cantonese invention commonly found in the sit down Chinese restaurants is called "XO Sauce". I say this because some of my Mandarin-speaking mainlander friends had no idea what it was. It is an oil-based condiment whose principal ingredients are dried scallops, dried shrimp, salted ham, and onions/shallots, all fried together to form an extremely rich-tasting golden substance. It is not as fishy as fish sauce, but it does have a seafood-y note that not everybody will like. That said, I think the stuff is one of the more delicious inventions around. You can buy bottles of the stuff at any asian market in Vancouver/Richmond/Burnaby.





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"Re(4):bees in Vancouver" , posted Fri 24 Jul 18:38post reply

Thanks Spoon! I sent those recommendations to my friend as well.
I've been thinking that maybe I could take advantage of her and go visit her there next year.... What would be a good time of the year to visit Vancouver, preferably not when everything is ablaze? spring?

As for my Boston adventure, it's over before it started: I found out it was supposed to happen over the week-end my apiary will be extracting honey, and there is no way I'm going to miss that.
It reminds me when I had to book a doctor's appointment on a Saturday, but that was going to be the day when I was going to re-queen my hive, so I answered "can we do this some time I have nothing better to do, such as from Monday to Friday during the day?".

At least, that proves that my boss didn't hide a spy microphone on my sleeve to listen to my private conversations.





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"Re(5):bees in Vancouver" , posted Sat 25 Jul 01:01post reply

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I found out it was supposed to happen over the week-end my apiary

I learned a new word. And that you've taken your Vampire obsession to a new level, apparently. Natural honey is the greatest thing. Like maple syrup, there is no god-damned reason to get a poor version of something that is used in relatively small quantities anyway. Honey comb is the natural equivalent of a Kit-kat and tastes so good I remember the first and last time I had it ten years ago.

Spoon, this situation gets more delicious by the second. XO sauce...interesting.





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"Re(5):bees in Vancouver" , posted Sat 25 Jul 05:56post reply

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Thanks Spoon! I sent those recommendations to my friend as well.
I've been thinking that maybe I could take advantage of her and go visit her there next year.... What would be a good time of the year to visit Vancouver, preferably not when everything is ablaze? spring?

As for my Boston adventure, it's over before it started: I found out it was supposed to happen over the week-end my apiary will be extracting honey, and there is no way I'm going to miss that.
It reminds me when I had to book a doctor's appointment on a Saturday, but that was going to be the day when I was going to re-queen my hive, so I answered "can we do this some time I have nothing better to do, such as from Monday to Friday during the day?".

At least, that proves that my boss didn't hide a spy microphone on my sleeve to listen to my private conversations.



I just wanted to say thank you to everyone posting here. I love to get the insider's scoop on far off lands. Also, congrats Iggy, I didn't think it was possible, but you've raised the bar for high brow intellectual pursuits in the cafe. I know nothing of keeping bees, but I am a big fan of honey!

My family sometimes gets wild honey from the mountains in Chiang Mai (so raw there's sometimes bee parts in it). It often turns black after a while. I am told this is perfectly normal, and it tastes amazing. Do you have any experience with black honey? (Hopefully I'm not consuming pure botulism!)






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"Re(6):bees in Vancouver" , posted Sat 25 Jul 06:35post reply

Maou: you're right, industrial honey is the worst. I had always known it, but trying to make honey myself made me even more adamant about that.
Now I just need to make my own cheese and grow my own olives and tomato, and I'm ready to take over the Mediterranean.
Speaking of, remember my character of choice will always be Anakaris. One day, all these books about embalming will be useful, I swear.

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My family sometimes gets wild honey from the mountains in Chiang Mai (so raw there's sometimes bee parts in it). It often turns black after a while. I am told this is perfectly normal, and it tastes amazing. Do you have any experience with black honey? (Hopefully I'm not consuming pure botulism!)

I have absolutely no idea! I just started this year, and I'm still a complete rookie, with old British ladies that look like retired math teachers chaperoning us as we open hives and try to kill as little bees as possible (truth be told, you cannot keep bees properly if you're a Buddhist. You will kill bees all the time, every week, that's how it is).
However, I am almost sure that our European bees are quite different from the bees that make the wild honey in Chiang Mai. One of the reason we need to keep an eye on them is because the European bees have been exposed to many foreign parasites in recent years, and they have no defence mechanism against them. For example, a Chinese species of wasp is decimating bees in SW France now, and the European bees cannot do anything against this particular invader because they don't have the ball defence (dozens of Asian bees gather around a single wasp, buzz for a while, and cook it to death because their body temperature can raise to 55ºC). European bees can only go to 45ºC I think. Same for other parasites from south-east Asia or the Americas. Our European bees are industrious but very frail, and they can barely survive in the wild anymore because of these new world-wide threats. I read that Japan adopted the European honey bee for a while, but was forced in recent year to revert to their traditional one, who was far less efficient, but at least didn't die every damn season.

However, to answer your question, I don't think a different specie of bees would be the answer. Maybe the honey you get is different because of whatever the bees find to eat up there? If it's really dark, maybe it's similar to what we have in the Alps here, pine tree honey, where they don't actually visit flowers, but lick the sweet sap from trees?
Generally, the honeys we have here don't change colours, only texture (when they crystallise, and you simply need to put the bottle in hot water if you absolutely prefer the liquid texture), so I have no answer. I still have a lot to learn! And many a body part that hasn't been stung yet.





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"Re(7):bees in Vancouver" , posted Sat 25 Jul 12:03post reply

Iggy has the hobby of the year! Now I want to become a beekeeper. Except I don't want to interact with bees. Or flowers. Or the outdoors. Otherwise it sounds great.





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"Re(7):bees in Vancouver" , posted Sat 25 Jul 21:35:post reply

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I read that Japan adopted the European honey bee for a while, but was forced in recent year to revert to their traditional one, who was far less efficient, but at least didn't die every damn season.


Honey as a hobby! That's quite interesting.

Regarding Japanese honey bees, generally speaking the industry used to prefer European bees (generally Italian) because they herd in a larger number and thus collect a lot more honey. But because of reasons including having to buy the bees, some are shifting back to local bees (which can be caught free). Another thing, importing honey is simply getting a lot cheaper and selling a domestic bee brand with a premium can be more profitable.

Japanese bees don't collect propolis though, which might explain why I haven't seen it that much here.





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Thanks Spoon! I sent those recommendations to my friend as well.
I've been thinking that maybe I could take advantage of her and go visit her there next year.... What would be a good time of the year to visit Vancouver, preferably not when everything is ablaze? spring?




The thing about British Columbia is that it's really, really, really big. Like, you could put the entire landmass of the UK and Japan here, and still have like enough room left for about half of the landmass of France. It's so large that it's kind of difficult to imagine just how large it is aside from "really large". So when stuff is burning in the summer, it's kind of like being in Osaka and being told that Sapporo has forest fires. You can see footage of it happening, but it doesn't really register just how far/close it is except when due to a freak occurrence hella forest starts burning. Of course, that means that a nearly unimaginable amount of forest is burning. Thankfully, the forest fires have never touched down into Vancouver, unlike some of the other towns/cities of BC. It's a very abstract-feeling danger, even when it became quite a pea souper.

If you aren't interested in skiing/snowboarding, I highly recommend NOT coming in the Winter months. December is dark and wet and cold. Maybe if you're in certain parts of the UK that'll feel like home. September/October are excellent. So is the spring time. Summer's not bad, either! But most of November, all of December, most of January I'd classify as "don't come."





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Karemeshi is back.

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"Re(1):STAY HOT" , posted Tue 28 Jul 07:52post reply

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Karemeshi is back.

Nissin chou kawaii.



Those are seriously huge dried shrimps

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"Re(2):STAY HOT" , posted Tue 28 Jul 10:38post reply

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Speaking of abs...

I dunno why, but whenever I see this guy he reminds me of some random Jojo character.





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"Re(2):STAY HOT" , posted Tue 28 Jul 10:38:post reply

*6-pack abs, double post*





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"Berserk Gets New Anime Project Featuring Guts" , posted Tue 22 Dec 12:30:post reply

With trailer coming at 12/25/2015...

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"Re(1):Berserk Gets New Anime Project Featurin" , posted Wed 23 Dec 03:20post reply

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With trailer coming at 12/25/2015...


The manga is going on hiatus again, to resume later as an irregularly published series?

When was the last time that series was even published regularly, where "regularly" is a period that lasted more than three months? It certainly feels like Miura has spent the vast majority of the last five or more years not releasing chapters of Berserk. I gave up trying to read it chapter by chapter.





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"Re(2):Berserk Gets New Anime Project Featurin" , posted Wed 23 Dec 05:22:post reply

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The manga is going on hiatus again, to resume later as an irregularly published series?

When was the last time that series was even published regularly, where "regularly" is a period that lasted more than three months?
Still better than HxH.

But yeah, Berserk is much more bearable in volumes.





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"Re(3):Berserk Gets New Anime Project Featurin" , posted Wed 23 Dec 06:01post reply

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The manga is going on hiatus again, to resume later as an irregularly published series?

When was the last time that series was even published regularly, where "regularly" is a period that lasted more than three months?Still better than HxH.

But yeah, Berserk is much more bearable in volumes.



How does the publication deal for something like this work? The series isn't officially dead, but it hasn't published anything for over a year. Is it still such a moneymaker that they're willing to carry it whenever he manages to produce a chapter? How does it maintain fan interest when it publishes so sporadically, or is this in fact a brilliant mechanism for firing fan interest?





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"Re(3):Berserk Gets New Anime Project Featurin" , posted Wed 23 Dec 06:51:post reply

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Still better than HxH.


I'm not sure how HxH continues to be published. I guess the secret is that it doesn't, really. I was rather shocked when years ago the chapter artwork, which had already degraded from finished artwork to rough sketches, managed to then degrade even further to simple scribbles.

I'd seen cancelled series put more effort into their "I don't care and/or can't afford to do this anymore" final chapters, and HxH was a hit ongoing series instead.


As for how a series can continue to be published like that... Well, I guess it doesn't really cost the publisher much, not when the alternative to spending 9 months a year not publishing a popular story is to instead spend 12 months a year not publishing it. They have other stuff to fill their pages. And the collected volumes are still going to sell, whenever they manage to get created. I'll buy the next volume of Berserk when/if it is ever released.





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"Re(1):Berserk Gets New Anime Project Featurin" , posted Thu 24 Dec 12:51post reply

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Teaser image looks nice. Looks like this thing will be full cg though. Not sure how well that'll work in motion. The best parts of the recent Berserk movies were the parts that were hand drawn or hand drawn overlaid on top of cg.

Maybe they'll pull it off? To this day my fav representation of Berserk in motion is still the PS2 game.

Man I really hope Yukes makes another one for PSIV. Those Berserk games are unsung classics. The ps2 game is still one of my favorite action games ever.






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Couple of Items I wanted to ask and get opinions. I am not a fan of network streaming my anime. Even if its within my own network. I use WDTV. However, its not up to date with most advanced codecs. Plus, its still uses USB 2.0. Laptop and or tablets are a second option. There is a new CPU by kangaroo with Windows 10 64-bit for $99 Connect via HDMI to TV and voila. WDTV need to come with something new or this Kangaroo is indeed a deal breaker no? More info Here

We all know that video game campaigns through Kickstarter and Indiegogo enable donators certain items and even the game itself based on the amount they donate. Does the cafe believe that these items, and even the game itself, would be worth more in the future and can be labeled as a collectors item instead? With that in mind, would it even make sense for the VG developer to have certain editions and bundles for the game after its release?

I was surprised that Sengoku 3, one of the last Neo-Geo games, came up on the Humble Bundle. I just noticed it was re-released before outside of Neo-Geo. Other games like Rage of the Dragons and Power Instinct has not been released outside of Neo-Geo. These are two decent games. Has anyone played them before? Power Instinct had some more new sequels afterwards but not outside of Japan nor arcades. I am not sure if those game were brought up for discussion on the BB before, but whats you take on these games?





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"Re(1):Rdndom thread: Non-gaming edition vol.4" , posted Sun 10 Jan 22:04post reply

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"Re(2):Rdndom thread: Non-gaming edition vol.4" , posted Sun 10 Jan 22:31post reply

Ignore this, just a test!





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"Re(2):Rdndom thread: Non-gaming edition vol.4" , posted Sun 10 Jan 22:45post reply

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The upcoming Dragon's Crown figures sculpted from Gouda Cheese's new artwork were on prototype display at a show this past weekend and Moeyo.com has photos. Be warned, the site is semi-NSFW!

http://www.moeyo.com/article/58683




The entire left and right sidebars are composed of close-ups on the (very large) breasts or butts of models. That's kind of impressive all on its own.





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"David Bowie has died" , posted Mon 11 Jan 19:33:post reply

Effectively having already gotten a tribute last year in the form of MGSV (what with it's men who sold the world and Diamond Dogs and maybe even every MGS game anyway), David Bowie whose glamour transcends all time periods and genres has passed away shortly after the release of Blackstar.

I'm pretty shocked because I thought Blackstar was just him doing yet another persona rolled into yet another crazy concept album, but now its already eerie videos and weird sound takes on a whole new weirdness.

And yet I somehow imagine that in a hospital somewhere, ten or so years from now, a nurse will say, "D has come to."

It's also weird in that I just watched The Prestige today, in which Bowie has a side role as Tesla, who makes a machine that can create a perfect clone of somebody (thoughts and all) which becomes the basis of a magic act.





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"Re(1):David Bowie has died" , posted Mon 11 Jan 20:29post reply

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"Re(2):David Bowie has died" , posted Tue 12 Jan 00:24post reply

What an unpleasant way to start the week.





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"David Bowie: see you, space cowboy" , posted Tue 12 Jan 00:39:post reply

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Agh! Before even being reminded by Thor Antrim's great David Bowie video game lookalikes from years ago that were re-posted in that link, I knew instinctively Bowie had always been the Cafe's unofficial mascot/idol, combining gorgeousness with supreme artistic creativity.

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"Re(1):David Bowie has died" , posted Tue 12 Jan 13:01post reply

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It's also weird in that I just watched The Prestige today, in which Bowie has a side role as Tesla, who makes a machine that can create a perfect clone of somebody (thoughts and all) which becomes the basis of a magic act.



David Bowie himself was magic incarnated. R.I.P., Dark Schneider, you shall be missed ;__;






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"Question about TUC" , posted Wed 13 Jan 17:12post reply

Question for Prof or anyone somehow well versed into the pachinko business.
Could you find who owns T.U.C. (and/or 東京商業流通組合)? It's not clear to me and I could not find the info online.
It's a 株式会社 so there should be the list of shareholders somewhere.

What I am wondering is whether there are government agencies involved and especially whether police forces have some open investment in this business.





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"Re(1):Question about TUC" , posted Wed 13 Jan 18:12post reply

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Question for Prof or anyone somehow well versed into the pachinko business.
Could you find who owns T.U.C. (and/or 東京商業流通組合)? It's not clear to me and I could not find the info online.
It's a 株式会社 so there should be the list of shareholders somewhere.

What I am wondering is whether there are government agencies involved and especially whether police forces have some open investment in this business.



Afaik TUC is owned by TSR(東京商業流通組合) in closed stock. Either way they're not open stock, so their shareholder list isn't publically available at least the way it goes in Japan.

TSR isn't owned by everyone, it's basically an umbrella organization for ex-police workers. That's why the Pachinko business stays in business despite being gambling. It's ironic how the two organizations were launched for the industry's transparency and compliance and they don't even have any info on the web.





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"Re(2):Question about TUC" , posted Wed 13 Jan 23:22:post reply

OK so as I understood it earlier, the corporation behind TUC (or let's say the corporation behind the corporation behind TUC) is indeed either one or several police syndicates, and former policemen form the core staff of TUC, as a result of the war on money laundering and the funnelling of money to North Korea. And now these guys control it in a totally opaque way? That must be one hell of a lucrative pension scheme.

That also means when the government fucks with Pachinko, it fucks with the Police? That's an interesting tug-of-war.

Are yakuza still considered (outside of the old cliché) as inevitably tied to pachinko? Or has this source of revenue dried up now that the Police has taken control? Because that would explain why yakuza gangs shifted to Neo Geo drug trafficking more aggressively in the Nineties.





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"Re(3):Question about TUC" , posted Thu 14 Jan 02:21:post reply

quote:
OK so as I understood it earlier, the corporation behind TUC (or let's say the corporation behind the corporation behind TUC) is indeed either one or several police syndicates, and former policemen form the core staff of TUC, as a result of the war on money laundering and the funnelling of money to North Korea. And now these guys control it in a totally opaque way? That must be one hell of a lucrative pension scheme.

That also means when the government fucks with Pachinko, it fucks with the Police? That's an interesting tug-of-war.

Are yakuza still considered (outside of the old cliché) as inevitably tied to pachinko? Or has this source of revenue dried up now that the Police has taken control? Because that would explain why yakuza gangs shifted to Neo Geo drug trafficking more aggressively in the Nineties.



As far as I understand it's not really that the police is trying to control the pachi industry as a government section to make money flow more transparent. It more like bureaucrats from the police want a peice of the pie and so they've organized and ganged up on the industry using that as the excuse. And in reality it's more like, they get money, and they give protection to the industry (because they won't arrest anyone). I'm not even sure if they really care about money leaking to N.Korea.

Also I'm not sure how much the Yakuza are involved nowadays. I hear it's mostly Zainichi running the parlors, though it's true that distinguishing the two can be a thin border. You can sort of feel it when you walk through Kabukicho and a few mins north.

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Come to think, I can't recall a case where the government tried to screw with the pachi industry. Technically speaking though if they do, they should have authority over the police since it'll be national security doing the work.

Interestingly though, the police has been bullying the industry the past year over modded machines and I'm not sure what's behind that. It sort of backfired on them and they quited down for a while though.





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"Re(4):Question about TUC" , posted Thu 14 Jan 13:11post reply

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Come to think, I can't recall a case where the government tried to screw with the pachi industry. Technically speaking though if they do, they should have authority over the police since it'll be national security doing the work.

Aren't there numerous complains about the frequent changes of laws and regulations regarding pachinko and pachislo machines? Or is that actually an impulse coming from TSR?

In any case, what came to my mind was the possible deregulation of casino mentioned by the Abe government in line with the 2020 Olympics. This would seriously affect the pachinko business (unless TSR also oversees casino standards).

quote:
Interestingly though, the police has been bullying the industry the past year over modded machines and I'm not sure what's behind that. It sort of backfired on them and they quited down for a while though.

I remember reading about yakuza hiring young hackers and making money from hacked CR cards that allowed them to cheat the machines. Maybe it's related?





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"Re(5):Question about TUC" , posted Thu 14 Jan 13:57post reply

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In any case, what came to my mind was the possible deregulation of casino mentioned by the Abe government in line with the 2020 Olympics. This would seriously affect the pachinko business (unless TSR also oversees casino standards).
I'm really interested in what goes on behind the scenes, too. He hasn't been active lately, but former Yomiuri reporter Jake Adelstein writes interestingly in both Japanese and English on the underworld and suspicious elements, so you might inquire about the pachinko situation.

The possibility of Sinagpore-style Integrated Resorts (classy casinos housed inside the equivalent of a Disney Resort) has certainly been interesting: as you know, there's been a parliamentarians' group on introducing these integrated resorts since before the Tokyo Olympics were rewarded and they seemed to have some momentum in 2013-2014, but less now. I believe the Komeito coalition partners wouldn't be on board, nor the panchinko industry unless they had a cut, and a lot of women are sensibly cautious. That said, the economic and tourism benefit is undoubtedly leagues ahead of the joyless panchinko joints that suck the atmosphere out of a neighborhood...I don't even gamble, but Integrated Resorts are pretty fun. I wonder why police are hassling pachinko more now, unless it were some prelude to integrated resorts' introduction and pachinko being seeing as less useful/profitable in the future?





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"Re(5):Question about TUC" , posted Thu 14 Jan 18:28:post reply

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I remember reading about yakuza hiring young hackers and making money from hacked CR cards that allowed them to cheat the machines. Maybe it's related?


It's actually a lot more old-school; they were harassing cracking down on pachi parlors that were illegaly bending pins to increase the winning rates beyond gambling rate restrictions. However the police discovered that there's not a single machine in the market which passed when they tested them out, which sounds a bit too unnatural. So they did their research and discovered that the manufacturers were actually shipping them in that state.

The story gets even odd, as it turns out that the manufacturers were shipping the pins plain stright, and the parlors were using them as-is. Yet, they gave higher jackpots results than the tests during the industry's approval process supervised by the police before new machines get greenlighted for mass production.

As the police discovered, it turned out that the manufacturers were actually bending pins to make it harder to get jackpots during the approval process, and afterwards they were straightening them back to normal position. And in their normal state, the machines were giving rates that went beyond gambling regulations.

So it became a catch-22 where the pins were giving higher rates than allowed even though they aren't modded, and the only way to bring their rates down within legal limits would be to mod them/bend the pins, which isn't allowed.

Since this means that the police weren't doing their job at supervising the approval process for all these years (not to mention a whole bunch of other questions that would obviously arise if unbent pins were breaking limits), they decided to look the other way and pretend they never hassled the parlors and manufacturers about it.





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"SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Wed 20 Jan 04:27post reply

Super Robot Taisen OG - The Moon Dwellers will be released later this year, for PS3 and PS4.
This is the first one released for PS4.

My backlog increase again... I haven't yet started anyone of the games released for PS3 :(





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"Re(1):SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Wed 20 Jan 18:21post reply

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Super Robot Taisen OG - The Moon Dwellers will be released later this year, for PS3 and PS4.
This is the first one released for PS4.



It's base on the GBA J and the GC original storylines (both of those games have been fan translated, J at least is compete AFAIK) - I was hoping the Ardyguns from the 3DS W, but maybe they'll get a nod in late game...
Apparently there'll be another SRW announcement at a later date, and technically this isn't OG3...





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"Re(2):SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Thu 21 Jan 00:38post reply

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Super Robot Taisen OG - The Moon Dwellers will be released later this year, for PS3 and PS4.
This is the first one released for PS4.


It's base on the GBA J and the GC original storylines (both of those games have been fan translated, J at least is compete AFAIK) - I was hoping the Ardyguns from the 3DS W, but maybe they'll get a nod in late game...
Apparently there'll be another SRW announcement at a later date, and technically this isn't OG3...


They say this and the other announcement is to commemorate for the 25th anniversary of the series(wow, that long). Who knows what other collaborations they will bring into the table now. Speaking of fan translations, where would be a good resource to obtain and play these English fan translated SRW games? I never have been able to come across a good place to download these games.





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"PENGUIN AWARENESS DAY" , posted Thu 21 Jan 01:36:post reply

Today is Penguin Awareness Day

This is the crisis of our times.

On a happier note, there is this. Start planning now for World Penguin Day 2016 now.





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"Re(2):SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Thu 21 Jan 04:27post reply

quote:

It's base on the GBA J and the GC original storylines (both of those games have been fan translated, J at least is compete AFAIK) - I was hoping the Ardyguns from the 3DS W, but maybe they'll get a nod in late game...
Apparently there'll be another SRW announcement at a later date, and technically this isn't OG3...



I don't like J very much, but I would really love to see the W people in another SRT.
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"Re(3):SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Tue 26 Jan 22:15:post reply

Interesting, could you elaborate why W was specifically well made, besides its pretty cool limited edition hardware? (And why it's more interesting than K for example?) I haven't really followed RSW since the PS2 days so I am not even sure what either game focussed on.





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"Re(4):SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Wed 27 Jan 00:17post reply

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Interesting, could you elaborate why W was specifically well made, besides its pretty cool limited edition hardware? (And why it's more interesting than K for example?) I haven't really followed RSW since the PS2 days so I am not even sure what either game focussed on.



I didn't play that many SRWs to completion to be able to compare W properly with the rest of the series, but I liked how it handled a few things:

* its protagonists were kinda perfect as a plot device to get the established anime characters together - they're basically a family of space gypsies (the in-game term is "trailers") that rent out their ship for all sorts of odd jobs, mostly transportation and they're mostly a grounded bunch that don't try to hoard the attention through any early-established super-special factor in their story or design cues (that does pop up with an original character that appears later in the game, because SRW is gonna SRW) - there's something to their family's ship, but that's unveiled over time.

- I'm not sure it established anything particularly new in the series, like the favorites system, but generally the gameplay flows really well even if you don't understand Japanese and have no idea what the items you can install in your bot do for bonuses - the game has a reputation for being easy (the Full Metal Panic enemies were a handful on the 1st playthrough though), but with multiple paths to explore that makes it simpler to see everything as you play it multiple times

- neat crossover moments, because it's SRW after all: a mascot themed-level with Bonta-kun, everybody rocking out to the Gekiganger 3 theme, the Z-Master arena from GaoGaiGar, which is actually cooler than the SRW Alpha 3 version due to the scale of everything (even if the originals do some spotlight-stealing there), and stoics like Heero and Sosuke managing to play off each other, and villain factions having their own things going on between them. Not to mention they make interesting uses of something apparently very minor from GoLion to play into the game's lore in a neat way, or the way they use time skips from the involved series and have things change for the originals accordingly to interesting effect.

- the original vehicles have a pretty neat upgrade path and interactions between them (the default bot has an alternate ship mode, and can combine with the corresponding carrier) - I don't think you can revert back from the fully-formed Valcazard (I like the Valhawk on its own) once you get that, but maybe an OG version can allow that.

It's just a very nicely put together package IMO.





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"Re(1):SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Wed 27 Jan 03:20:post reply

quote:
Super Robot Taisen OG - The Moon Dwellers will be released later this year, for PS3 and PS4.
This is the first one released for PS4.

My backlog increase again... I haven't yet started anyone of the games released for PS3 :(


Promotional Video
It also states that the series has sold 16 million copies. Are those good numbers for a 25 year old series with over 50 titles released mainly in Japan?





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"Re(4):SRT OG - The Moon Dwellers announced!" , posted Wed 27 Jan 06:55:post reply

quote:
Interesting, could you elaborate why W was specifically well made, besides its pretty cool limited edition hardware? (And why it's more interesting than K for example?) I haven't really followed RSW since the PS2 days so I am not even sure what either game focussed on.



Loona explanation is way better than the one I could write.
I loved especially the mix of series chosen for the game, they integrated very well between them.

K instead was a complete mess, they dropped GaoGaiGar, adding Gaiking Legend of Daiku-Maryu, and continuously jumped between a world and another (I think the Gaiking alien world or whatever it was called) in a way that it gave the feel of a bunch of separated stages poorly put one after the other without a sense of story progression aside from "new world/stage/map, take these bunch of new units" (especially zoids, there were a lot of them!).
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"Killer 7: Killer is Dead Short Story" , posted Wed 27 Jan 14:08post reply

Killer 7: Killer is Dead (Short Story)

Ten years later Suda51 decides to touch up on the plot of Killer7. Too bad that even with the Hand in Killer 7 story book they originally published the plot was about as nonsensical as Evangelion. Here's hoping he has something planned with the game.





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"Hagiwara is alive!!" , posted Thu 28 Jan 05:03post reply

And he's doing... the character design for a TV series with male characters along with Watsuki.

No, none of this makes sense. But it's definitely him.

The game is even worse: illustrated by the guy of some Atelier game, and written by the guy of Tales of Abyss.

What is this thing.





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"Re(1):Killer 7: Killer is Dead Short Story" , posted Thu 28 Jan 08:29post reply

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Killer 7: Killer is Dead (Short Story)

Ten years later Suda51 decides to touch up on the plot of Killer7. Too bad that even with the Hand in Killer 7 story book they originally published the plot was about as nonsensical as Evangelion. Here's hoping he has something planned with the game.


Thanks for the heads up. I personally feel that Suda51 never managed to top the surreal setting of K7 so it's curious to see him once again fiddling around with that scenario.





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"Re(1):Killer 7: Killer is Dead Short Story" , posted Thu 28 Jan 10:56post reply

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Killer 7: Killer is Dead (Short Story)

Ten years later Suda51 decides to touch up on the plot of Killer7. Too bad that even with the Hand in Killer 7 story book they originally published the plot was about as nonsensical as Evangelion. Here's hoping he has something planned with the game.


Killer 7 is indeed one of the best gamecube had to offer. Weird though how this short story is called Killer is Dead when Suda51 made a game with the same title but not affiliated with Killer 7 at all. Killer 7 Killer is dead, who knows what he is trying to tinker with here. Here is hoping for a new Killer 7.





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"Re(2):Killer 7: Killer is Dead Short Story" , posted Thu 28 Jan 23:50post reply

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Killer 7: Killer is Dead (Short Story)

Ten years later Suda51 decides to touch up on the plot of Killer7. Too bad that even with the Hand in Killer 7 story book they originally published the plot was about as nonsensical as Evangelion. Here's hoping he has something planned with the game.

Killer 7 is indeed one of the best gamecube had to offer. Weird though how this short story is called Killer is Dead when Suda51 made a game with the same title but not affiliated with Killer 7 at all. Killer 7 Killer is dead, who knows what he is trying to tinker with here. Here is hoping for a new Killer 7.



Killer7, what a game! So confusing and bizarre... I still remember the first time I tried the game and one of my characters died, that death scene with the head of the character opening the mouth as the kanji for "death" appears written with blood... Holy zen! I switched off the console, not knowing what to make out of the experience, I was shocked! Everything changed when I showed it to a friend and managed to complete the first chapter, I got a kick out of it and kept playing until the end. Loved it!

I've gotta recommend a quite lengthy plot analysis that takes excerpts from the game and quotes from Suda from various interviews to try to explain everything, I think it's amazing. It also includes a translation from the "HAND IN KILLER7" book that was published in 2005, how awesome is that?





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"Re(3):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Fri 29 Jan 07:56post reply

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I've gotta recommend a quite lengthy plot analysis that takes excerpts from the game and quotes from Suda from various interviews to try to explain everything, I think it's amazing.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out!

I've got a really complicated history with Killer7 and Suda that I find a little hard to explain. I'll try though, what the hell!

It's a game I've really always loved, and that much hasn't changed. It presses all the right weird buttons for me, it's not afraid to not make sense, it's got some extremely interesting characters, especially given the small amount of attention given to each of them, and its gameplay and aesthetic sense are linked pretty closely, in that it's a generally fun game that's super stylish. For a long time, purely on the basis of this game, I used to tell people that Suda was one of my favorite Japanese creators, and I went out and bought anything that he made.

The problem (for me at least) is that he never subsequently made anything that came even close to Killer7 in quality, aesthetic, and gameplay. Nothing he's made since comes even close to the perfect combo that was Killer7. I don't think I realized this fully until I was having a conversation this past week about Suda where I mentioned how I had basically liked No More Heroes. As I was speaking about it, it became more and more obvious to me that I hadn't actually liked the game very much at all, outside of a vague sense of it being weird and crass. The gameplay is mediocre, the sense of humor is lackluster, and the few things I do like, such as the mini games and a piece of weirdness here and there like the training gym and the video store didn't come close to making up for all of its shortcomings.

I'm not sure how interested everyone is in hearing me rant about all this, but in short, none of his games after Killer7 held up to scrutiny when I gave it some serious thought. The closest to an exception is Lollipop Chainsaw of all things, which is at the very least a semi-decent game from a pure gameplay perspective. But games like Killer is Dead? It's just a beautiful dressing on a lousy game.

So that makes me wonder-- is Killer7 just a fluke? Were any of his earlier games as good as it, like Michigan and the Silver Case? Am I just being overly critical?





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"Re(4):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Fri 29 Jan 11:05:post reply

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I've got a really complicated history with Killer7 and Suda that I find a little hard to explain. I'll try though, what the hell!

It's a game I've really always loved, and that much hasn't changed. It presses all the right weird buttons for me, it's not afraid to not make sense, it's got some extremely interesting characters, especially given the small amount of attention given to each of them, and its gameplay and aesthetic sense are linked pretty closely, in that it's a generally fun game that's super stylish. For a long time, purely on the basis of this game, I used to tell people that Suda was one of my favorite Japanese creators, and I went out and bought anything that he made.

The problem (for me at least) is that he never subsequently made anything that came even close to Killer7...


Time to rant, y'all.

Karasu, I feel you man. I have a really similar experience, actually! I was hugely hyped coming off of Killer 7. I was a big fan of Grasshopper, their stylish-as-hell logo, and Suda himself, who is, I think, at the very least, a guy who has done some cool stuff and is worthy of respect.

I legitimately liked No More Heroes, as well. It amused me. You live in a shitty, small town. You have previously spent all your money on a a big, impractical, stupid bike (the Schpeltiger) that serves you no purpose at all, it barely fits on the narrow streets. The most fun you can have with it is pulling off drifts or donuts, so you end up doing that sometimes. The life you lead and the people around you are so goddamn boring that you might as well order a lightsaber off the internet and become a professional killer. I mean hell, why not? You will literally mow goddamn lawns and pump goddamn gas to save up the money to kill someone you don't know, just for the sake of having something to do and maybe marginally increase the remote odds that you'll finally get laid.

Whether the overall message is completely or even consciously intended or not, I experienced some interesting thoughts while playing it. I would say that No More Heroes is about a loser otaku who really just wants love and validation (or at least sex and respect) and indulges himself in an insane hitman fantasy where, against all odds, he turns out to be not-entirely-unlikable and something more than a complete waste of a human life. It's an appealingly crazy/stupid situation... and you can buy a ton of cool and/or offensively bad-looking shirts and some highly decent-looking designer jeans. You got a ton of money from killing those people so you gotta spend it somehow. This was before the word "hipster" was turned into a vapid slur that ruined anyone genuinely liking something that literally everyone else on Earth didn't already agree was completely unremarkable in every way. Which made it easier to enjoy the fashion angle. And I also really like some of the characters. And I think there are genuinely funny lines. Maybe that's just me, though.

I think the game's usage of the patented "Wii waggle" is pretty good, too. They seem to have knew just about how much fun they could reasonably expect to get out of such limited technology in a game that wasn't completely designed around that limited technology. They show some restraint. It doesn't go overboard... a simple horizontal or vertical movement and great audiovisual feedback when you deal a finishing blow. Coins everywhere! Blood everywhere! Now let's spin those slots!

Making the player mime jacking off to recharge your laser sword is definitely as crude and basic as you can get, but it's still kind of great because it really forces you to get into (utterly pathetic) character. Look at what you're doing! You pretty much have to accept that you are willingly participating in something truly ridiculous, frantically shaking your wrist to keep your performance from flagging. Not much actual depth to the gameplay, and certainly a few problems and degenerate strategies, but fun enough, I think.

The sound design is fantastic. It's a work of genius. I actually met Masafumi Takada once as I was being pushed by a huge crowd into a party and he was being pushed by a huge crowd out of a party. Someone with him who knew I was a big fan introduced me, and I took the 40 seconds or so it took us to completely pass each other to tell him that NMH's sound design was completely awesome. Seriously, if ever in my life I can create a work that's that coherent and that accomplished, I think I could die feeling that I'd actually done something worthwhile.

NMH2 does have better, cleaner fighting/3D camera; I think it's technically a better game. But it really let me down thematically... instead of rightly mocking Travis as ridiculous and kind of sad they try to sell you on the idea that, no, he's not really just a violent, loser weaboo who beats off to loli characters and pines after completely unobtainable women. He's a cool guy that you would really want to be like! The babes love him! You can finally stick your strawberry in the cheesecake that is Sylvia Christel. I mean, she was a total cock-tease the first game right? You deserve this, loyal fan! Thank you for playing! Oh, and the sexy young Shinobu acts like she's hating, but she actually lusts after you too. And if you still need more wank-fuel between story beats, the raven-haired intelli-milf swordsmith Dr. Naomi has inflated her tits since last game to achieve a whopping 400% increase in boobage, now with extra wobbble! Maybe she'll do some work on your other weapon, durr hurr!

Ladies! You can certainly do better.

The thing is, though, I am not convinced that Suda had that much to do with NMH2 creatively... or any Grasshopper game after the original NMH for that matter. His credits are always very high-level or very vague. "Executive Producer" means fuck-all to me. And "Writer"? Doesn't say too much... maybe he created the plot outline? Character concepts? Most of the dialogue? Some of the dialogue? A couple of scenes? I imagine him providing very loose guidelines and sporadic feedback spending most of his time running his company. He's always seemed like a smart guy to me. I still think he's cool.

I'm not saying he sold out but... well, okay. That's what I'm saying. I feel like he pretty much sold out.

I really can't go easy on Lollipop Chainsaw, either. This guy articulates all the problems I would voice about the gameplay and then some. I firmly believe Killer is Dead is mechanically superior to game with the cheerleaded and her severed-head boyfriend, if much less charming in terms of characters and concept. Mondo is, to be sure, a total fucking dud. He's objectively less cool than Travis Touchdown. And that's saying something. Gigolo vision isn't worth talking about. Maybe if more thought had been put into this "mode" there could be some useful discussion on whether or not it's actually offensive.

Now I wouldn't say the combat is great in KiD, but it's mostly competent. The momentum mechanic (more stylish animation, more damage, more hits) is really simple, but it's satisfying on a basic level. The multiple finishers are indeed quite stupid and mess with the game's flow.

Hmm. I guess the shooting kind of sucks too... and maybe it's the way the game looks, but I admit it has more of a budget-game feel than Lollipop Chainsaw does. That's certainly a strike against it. I almost bought KiD game for 20 bucks but decided against it. I give it two tigers out of five. Lollipop Chainsaw I'd give a 1 and 3/quarters of a tiger. Personal taste varies, of course. I can see how someone might prefer Lollipop.

Oh yeah. Michigan! It gets two and 1/5th tigers. This one can actually be called a Suda game, I think. The biggest problem I had is that, well, you only have a camera, right? A lot of the time, it's like your character is only a camera. You don't have much ability to influence events at all, so when you have the option to film something that's super fucked up and/or morally reprehensible... which happens a lot, since you're a cameraman for a news channel in a weird horror scenario, it can be frustrating. There are a lot of times where it would seem that you could have helped someone or stopped something bad from happening, or done anything at all, but most of the time you can't do anything. The fact that you're not making any sort of meaningful choice to record this awful shit happening means that you can just shrug off the shitty and questionable things your character does/doesn't do. What's the point? Oh, I remember. Vagina monster!

As a disclaimer, I played the game at least ten years ago. This is just what I remember. I would say it's interesting, but it wasn't interesting enough to stick with me long-term.

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Oops, forgot Shadows of the Damned. Well, it wasn't that bad really. Not really a Suda game, not really a Mikami game, I guess it was an okay Massimo Guarini game. I would rate this but there's a conflict of interest... they didn't take my advice to re-record the hillbilly demon's line "Ho-leeeee shit!" where the voice actor had misplaced emphasis and ruined the legitimacy of his otherwise pretty believable redneck accent.

EDIT AGAIN: I did not play Liberation Maiden for more than 5 minutes, so I'll refrain from commenting here as well.





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"Re(5):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Fri 29 Jan 16:24:post reply

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I've got a really complicated history with Killer7 and Suda that I find a little hard to explain. I'll try though, what the hell!

It's a game I've really always loved, and that much hasn't changed. It presses all the right weird buttons for me, it's not afraid to not make sense, it's got some extremely interesting characters, especially given the small amount of attention given to each of them, and its gameplay and aesthetic sense are linked pretty closely, in that it's a generally fun game that's super stylish. For a long time, purely on the basis of this game, I used to tell people that Suda was one of my favorite Japanese creators, and I went out and bought anything that he made.

The problem (for me at least) is that he never subsequently made anything that came even close to Killer7...

Time to rant, y'all.

Karasu, I feel you man. I have a really similar experience, actually! I was hugely hyped coming off of Killer 7. I was a big fan of Grasshopper, their stylish-as-hell logo, and Suda himself, who is, I think, at the very least, a guy who has done some cool stuff and is worthy of respect.

I legitimately liked No More Heroes, as well. It amused me. You live in a shitty, small town. You have previously spent all your money on a a big, impractical, stupid bike (the Schpeltiger) that serves you no purpose at all, it barely fits on the narrow streets. The most fun you can have with it is pulling off drifts or donuts, so you end up doing that sometimes

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I feel you guys, I also became a Suda51/Grasshopper fan and bought almost everything they churned out.

I genuinely enjoyed both NMH games, even if you make valid points on what's wrong with them. I think Shadows of the Damned was a great game, while Lollipop was ok at best (the gameplay...) and Killer is Dead was sadly just good.

I'm afraid what you say about Suda it's true, he's not invested in his games as he was before, I'm not holding up my breath for Let It Die...

Guys, do yourselves a favor and play Flower, Sun and Rain on DS. It's an excellent quirky game like one you'd expect from the mastermind behind Killer7!

Edit: Forgot to say, Akira Ueda is the one behind Michigan, not Suda.





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"Re(6):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sat 30 Jan 03:51post reply

Ikari, I actually did not realize Flower, Sun, and Rain was available in English. I have to be crazy motivated to square off with kanji these days so this motivates me to pick it up and play it. So strange that I missed it.

Also, I really only talked/rambled about the things I disliked No More Heroes 2, huh? It's not that I didn't enjoy the game. There's a lot of good stuff there, including another fantastic soundtrack and some very cool bosses. I really did appreciate being able to play as Shinobu. I kind of just went off on the game, there.

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Forgot to say, Akira Ueda is the one behind Michigan, not Suda.



About Michigan. Ah, right. Suda wasn't the director, and looking it up I guess he didn't have a writer credit either. But he does have a "planner" credit? He's talked a lot about Michigan and once said something about a possible remake... my impression was always that he had an active role in development (planner is one of those special Japanese titles... this may have been "lead designer" in a Western company?), but I suppose it's hard to tell just from looking at a game's credits.





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"Re(7):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sat 30 Jan 07:24post reply

FSR is kind of interesting on its own with its surreal and magic realist elements, but a lot of the story elements come out of left field entirely. Supposedly it makes a lot more sense and is a lot more interesting if you played its predecessors (Moonlight Syndrome and Silver case and maybe the Twilight Syndrome games before them), since it has significant plot ties to them.





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"Re(8):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sat 30 Jan 10:15post reply

So: Flower Sun and Rain was $20US so I just bought it, and it's on its way to me. What the heck! It's a shame though that Silver Case etc. aren't available in English or easily. Unless someone knows better than I do?

Mosquiton, I 100% agree with you about just about everything you had to say, especially about NMH's sound design. The soundtrack in particular is exquisite. I guess I should clarify-- it's a decent game, with a lot of appeal, and it's been a pretty big influence on me in a lot of ways. It's crass, it's often gross, it never for a second makes you think that Travis is cool or anything, and best of all (for me at least) it was the first Grasshopper game to use out of date visual stand-ins for common videogame elements like powerups and collectables. This is something that was also done in Shadows of the Damned, and is just about the only thing I liked about that game. But the city feels empty and even though I could find ways to have fun tooling around and digging in dumpsters for t-shirts there's just so much of the game that feels like busy work. Maybe this is by design and completely intentional-- I mean, the tooling around on the motorcycle and dumpster diving isn't all that far off from sailing around and finding collectable 3 out of 10,000 in Wind Waker. All I'm saying is that in the end it's just not much fun, even if an important point is being made.

I'm not even going to get into Killer is Dead other than to say that Suda had a really good chance to make something cool and interesting, and either through missteps or budget constraints or whatever ended up making a game that was a letdown in a bunch of ways. And the story... for some reason I'm okay with Killer7 making almost no sense. It felt like it could make sense if only I made an effort to figure it out. Killer is Dead on the other hand just never seemed worth the effort to puzzle through.

In the end I think I was more trying to point out that Killer7 is for me a sort of masterpiece, and I've been expecting Suda to produce something just as good or better ever since, but instead I like his games less and less with each iteration. Every time I hear a game of his is coming I think "this could be the one" only to be disappointed.

Also, with all of the HD rereleases out there, why is it that Killer7 hasn't been updated? It can't possibly be all that much work-- the models are fine, but probably just need to be sharpened up a bit.





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"Re(9):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sat 30 Jan 12:05:post reply

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In the end I think I was more trying to point out that Killer7 is for me a sort of masterpiece, and I've been expecting Suda to produce something just as good or better ever since, but instead I like his games less and less with each iteration. Every time I hear a game of his is coming I think "this could be the one" only to be disappointed.



These words ring clear with truth. Like you, I'd really love to see Suda top himself one more time.

But as Spoon mentions, Killer 7 is attached to an entire legacy of past games! Maybe looking backwards is the way to go. If you do end up becoming a Suda51 scholar, do share your findings with us.

Speaking of Silver Case... someone at one point was attempting a fan translation but I'm not sure that it was ever finished.

EDIT: I just listened to the NMH2 soundtrack, partially because I felt guilty for railing on the game a few posts back, and I kind of wanted to go back and replay it. This music is dangerous!





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"Re(10):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sun 31 Jan 00:21post reply

Speaking as a genuine fan of Killer 7 I sometimes wonder if I'm giving Suda 51 far too much credit. Are there really subtle meanings behind his presentation; do silent waters run deep as the old saying goes? Or is it all surface details of whatever pop culture details the game became obsessed with? Was my mind filling in details that simply weren't there? I don't know but I would probably be willing to give those game a bit more leeway if they were tighter. For example, that Samurai Champloo game had a clever idea with the soundtrack affecting your combos but that game went on forever.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sun 31 Jan 10:05post reply

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Speaking as a genuine fan of Killer 7 I sometimes wonder if I'm giving Suda 51 far too much credit. Are there really subtle meanings behind his presentation; do silent waters run deep as the old saying goes? Or is it all surface details of whatever pop culture details the game became obsessed with? Was my mind filling in details that simply weren't there? I don't know but I would probably be willing to give those game a bit more leeway if they were tighter. For example, that Samurai Champloo game had a clever idea with the soundtrack affecting your combos but that game went on forever.



I know what you mean. Also worth considering though that these games are by no means the work of one person. I would think that many of the games are collective hallucinations, and when Suda's in charge he's the one passing out the ayahuasca and throwing out some crazy concepts to get you going. Figuratively speaking... I think.

And never underestimate the possibility that a company meeting could accidentally change a product in a huge way.

Killer7 though, whether or not it's deliberately amazing I think it's hard to argue that it's deliberately something.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sun 31 Jan 10:55post reply

The overall trend I found with Suda's games is that as they became more mechanically sound as video games, they had fewer and fewer wacky design hijinks, and I mean design hijinks throughout all of the different aspects of design, not just the basic mechanics.

It can be frustrating/expensive for the development of the game to contain a huge number of "mechanically special moments", and in the worst case it can wind up looking and feeling like a mini-game fest. For all kinds of good reasons, having "solid core mechanics" that get carefully iterated on over the course of the game and that the game maintains a focus on tends to result in a more coherent and solid game experience. But in the case of Killer7, part of its experience is the feeling of being insane and schizophrenic. Having a focus on a nice and polished and coherent and smoothly progressing with a good difficulty curve and all those other things that we name with "good games" would miss part of the point of experience the game wants to convey.

And yes, as others have mentioned above, Jun Fukuda and Masafumi Takada formed the first set of audio people that I've wanted to follow the works of. There's this delightful amount of variety in the different audio stingers they use, this mix of lo-fi with hi-fi sound effects, this eclectic and cool music they make... and they've worked on a lot of my favourite games from that generation! They've worked on Killer7, God Hand, and EDF!





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"Re(4):Re(10):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Sun 31 Jan 16:16post reply

I think the magic of Silver Jiken came from the shoestring budget that forced them to wrack their brain around how to make an entire game out of a wacky plot. It also comes from an era when Suda had no money and only a very underground reputation as a clever storywriter. There was supposed to be a NDS remake of Silver Jiken after Flower, Sun & Rain but I guess the poor sales of that game outside Japan (it was never supposed to sell well in Japan anyway) killed the idea completely.

I agree that it seems Suda 51 has been barely involved with the games he has been "executively" producing since No More Heroes. He has seemed much more involved in promoting the games and finding marks the funds to keep on working. The most personal thing he has done since NMH might actually be the radio show SDatcher for Kojima (but I don't know for sure if he actually wrote the script). There are definitely many stories running around of bitter developers, game designers and producers come and go from Grasshopper following each project after NMH.

I also think his shooting game "Liberation Maiden" is by far the least interesting title of the four Guild01 projects (and all the Guild02 projects, as a matter of fact). Furthermore, unlike the other games in the Guild series, I fail to see the connection between this game and the piece of work he personally had brought to video games so far.

In summary, I do agree Killer7 was a lucky strike. The right upcoming talent with a bunch of wild ideas, the right timing in terms of technology matched by a visual direction, the right genius producer (Mikami), the right console and audience (starved North American coming-of-age Nintendo fans), the right budget constraints.

I still believe Suda51 is an interesting pop culture curator. Rather than making a game, I would almost be more interested in him becoming the chief editor of Famitsu, for instance. It would certainly hurt Famitsu, but I am convinced he would do something super interesting out of it. I wish they would let him do whatever he wants for one issue as a special chief editor on a slow week in terms of news.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Killer 7: Killer is Killer" , posted Mon 1 Feb 16:58post reply

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I think the magic of Silver Jiken came from the shoestring budget that forced them to wrack their brain around how to make an entire game out of a wacky plot. It also comes from an era when Suda had no money and only a very underground reputation as a clever storywriter. There was supposed to be a NDS remake of Silver Jiken after Flower, Sun & Rain but I guess the poor sales of that game outside Japan (it was never supposed to sell well in Japan anyway) killed the idea completely.

I agree that it seems Suda 51 has been barely involved with the games he has been "executively" producing since No More Heroes. He has seemed much more involved in promoting the games and finding marks the funds to keep on working. The most personal thing he has done since NMH might actually be the radio show SDatcher for Kojima (but I don't know for sure if he actually wrote the script). There are definitely many stories running around of bitter developers, game designers and producers come and go from Grasshopper following each project after NMH.

I also think his shooting game "Liberation Maiden" is by far the least interesting title of the four Guild01 projects (and all the Guild02 projects, as a matter of fact). Furthermore, unlike the other games in the Guild series, I fail to see the connection between this game and the piece of work he personally had brought to video games so far.

In summary, I do agree Killer7 was a lucky strike. The right upcoming talent with a bunch of wild idea

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I'm so happy I'd brought up FSR to your attention! I have to agree that The Silver Case has an impact on the plot of FSR, but I think that even if it adds to the confusion, playing the game is a great experience. The NDS remake it's quite good, adding puzzles and unlockables new to the game. It's too bad that they didn't keep the brilliant PS2 opening movie, I'm in love with the song.

Suda mentioned in an interview were he presented the Art of Grasshopper Manufacture artbook in Spain, that he is still interested in developing a remake for The Silver Case (yes, please!). Speaking of that artbook, it's a selection of artwork from every Grasshopper game, favoring of course the games he had a hand in. It has comments by him in Japanese and English and it's available on Amazon so it's quite a great book to own.

SDatcher was an amazing thing, a love letter to Kojima's Snatcher written by Suda51 with music composed by Akira Yamaoka. I own the disc, I can attest he did write it, so as you say Chaz, it might be the last interesting thing that he wrote! I think he mentioned that being the president at Grasshopper made him unable to focus on his games but now that they merged with GungHo he was liberated of all those managing and financial tasks he had to attend to and now he can focus on the games as much as he always wanted to. We'll see!





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"Yusuke Murata has a UStream" , posted Tue 2 Feb 11:17post reply

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nebu-kuro1

You can watch him redraw One Punch Man through a really tiny FOV.





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"Re(1):Yusuke Murata has a UStream" , posted Wed 3 Feb 16:21post reply

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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nebu-kuro1

You can watch him redraw One Punch Man through a really tiny FOV.



Yesterday I spent a couple of hours watching him working on a couple pages and on a Nendoroid celebration card I think? Anyways, it's a blast seeing how a pro mangaka works, thanks a lot for the link!





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"Re(2):Yusuke Murata has a UStream" , posted Wed 3 Feb 22:56post reply

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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nebu-kuro1

You can watch him redraw One Punch Man through a really tiny FOV.


Yesterday I spent a couple of hours watching him working on a couple pages and on a Nendoroid celebration card I think? Anyways, it's a blast seeing how a pro mangaka works, thanks a lot for the link!



Yusuke Murata IS the real life One Punch Man of art! He's so insanely talented! When I see him draw I think of that part in the comic where they're talking bout Saitama and someone goes "A god resides in that body." Some people could spend 100 years drawing and still not come close to approaching his level.

Not only is he a supremely talented draftsmen,

he's INVENTIVE
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/02/29/eyeshield-21-artist-posts-fun-inventive-manga-to-twitter

FUNNY (this is a collaboration he did with ONE way before One Punch Man. It's a really great riff on classic RPGs)
http://www.mangahere.co/manga/heroes_of_fury/c001/

and he's FAST too.

Oh and he's also a stellar animator!

When I first laid eyes on Eyeshield 21 I thought "man this guy must be trained in animation!" His comics have such dynamic movement. Years later on OPM he got to prove that he's actually one of the greatest animators of all time (ALL TIME) but he chooses to do comics:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/03/06/chapter-of-one-punch-man-manga-turned-into-incredible-animated-gif

Thanks for sharing the link Spoon! So glad to see love for Yusuke Murata in the cafe. Here's something I think you'll enjoy, archived footage of Yusuke Murata's live stream for his Darkstalkers OST box set illustration:

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"Re(3):Yusuke Murata created Dust Man" , posted Wed 3 Feb 23:04:post reply

Oh and when he was a teenager he won 2 Capcom Mega Man character design contests back to back.

He created Dust Man and Crystal Man!






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"Re(2):New Berserk TV Series" , posted Fri 5 Feb 04:05:post reply

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Teaser image looks nice. Looks like this thing will be full cg though. Not sure how well that'll work in motion. The best parts of the recent Berserk movies were the parts that were hand drawn or hand drawn overlaid on top of cg.

Maybe they'll pull it off? To this day my fav representation of Berserk in motion is still the PS2 game.

Man I really hope Yukes makes another one for PSIV. Those Berserk games are unsung classics. The ps2 game is still one of my favorite action games ever.



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I think the reason why the production team did not continue the original TV series was that the conviction arc, which starts after the last episode, consist of religious type matters that would have probably got a universal negative backlash from groups alike. That would have been a huge risk and probably would have doomed Berserk. Lets see if they decide to do the Conviction Arc.





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"Re(3):New Berserk TV Series" , posted Fri 5 Feb 05:17post reply

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I think the reason why the production team did not continue the original TV series was that the conviction arc, which starts after the last episode, consist of religious type matters that would have probably got a universal negative backlash from groups alike. That would have been a huge risk and probably would have doomed Berserk. Lets see if they decide to do the Conviction Arc.



Even with the violence and subject matter that it kept, the original TV series honestly seemed too cautious for some of the Black Swordsman era content. The TV series was already holding back a bit in some of the intro and Golden Age content, while the Black Swordsman stuff was darker, more explicit, and more controversial.





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"Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day!)" , posted Mon 15 Feb 02:59:post reply

Happy Valentines Day Errone!
I wrote a new Art-Eater article on one of my favourite love stories ... Dragon Ball!

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"Re(1):Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day" , posted Mon 15 Feb 06:14post reply

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Happy Valentines Day Errone!
I wrote a new Art-Eater article on one of my favourite love stories ... Dragon Ball!

http://art-eater.com/2016/02/why-the-relationships-in-dragon-ball-make-a-lot-of-sense/



I never saw all of Dragon Ball, but by one account on the internet Yamcha is probably the one character that was supposed to be really cool and then got reduced to less-than-jobber status.
Can you comment on the accuracy of this account? Whether or not it's true, it does make me laugh.





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"Re(2):Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day" , posted Mon 15 Feb 08:44post reply

Great article, Nobi! The less "typical" the romance, the more realistic at times.

Also appropriate to the day, a strange set of circumstances had me watching the ending of Final Fantasy VIII, and I'm charmed and amazed as always by the sophistication of the ending and its multiple acts. One of the most baffling things I ever read in English at the time was "shouldn't a love story have the words 'I love you' in it?" It's amazing how much more this one says.

Also for your consideration (of course) is the bonus epilogue ending for Lunar~Eternal Blue, in which the hero says farewell forever to his friends and family to travel across space to a frozen Earth to where his otherworldly love has been forced to return all alone!





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"Re(3):Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day" , posted Mon 15 Feb 11:34post reply

Currently the best real-life versions of Lupin and Fujiko out there.





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"Re(4):Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day" , posted Mon 15 Feb 13:50post reply

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Currently the best real-life versions of Lupin and Fujiko out there.



Holy crap, she does make a great Fujiko! I wonder if that was intentional!
God I'm so excited for this movie. Zoolander 2 is my Episode 7.






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"Re(5):Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day" , posted Mon 15 Feb 14:20post reply

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Currently the best real-life versions of Lupin and Fujiko out there.


Holy crap, she does make a great Fujiko! I wonder if that was intentional!
God I'm so excited for this movie. Zoolander 2 is my Episode 7.



Was so excited for it after the trailer but the bad press frightens me...





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"Re(6):Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day" , posted Mon 15 Feb 15:39post reply

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Currently the best real-life versions of Lupin and Fujiko out there.


Holy crap, she does make a great Fujiko! I wonder if that was intentional!
God I'm so excited for this movie. Zoolander 2 is my Episode 7.


Was so excited for it after the trailer but the bad press frightens me...



Well, Stepbrothers has a 51% metacritic rating and I LOVE that movie so maybe the critics are wrong. I mean, everyone hated Zoolander when it originally came out. I had friends/classmates who just didn't get it. They thought it was "dumb" or "gay" or whatever. It's easy to forget that when Zoolander debuted, there was no TMZ, people weren't into Fashion Week and no one knew who Paris Hilton was (so her cameo went unnoticed). The world has since caught up to this groundbreaking G.O.A.T. film.

So maybe now people think they're too good for it coming from the opposite end of the spectrum, overloaded on celebrity gossip and fashion news in the unending currents of social media.

In any case I've never found Metacritic or Rotten tomatoes to be that reliable for movie recommendations. They are a great thumb on the pulse of movie watching society though.






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"Re(5):Life Love and DBZ (Happy Valentines Day" , posted Mon 15 Feb 17:17post reply

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Currently the best real-life versions of Lupin and Fujiko out there.


Holy crap, she does make a great Fujiko! I wonder if that was intentional!
God I'm so excited for this movie. Zoolander 2 is my Episode 7.



When it comes down to it, Fujiko is meant to be a busty Bond girl, who is significantly older than a teenager and has wavy brownish/reddish hair. Turns out Penelope Cruz pulls that off superbly!





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"Re(4):New Berserk TV Series" , posted Thu 24 Mar 21:25post reply

quote:
I think the reason why the production team did not continue the original TV series was that the conviction arc, which starts after the last episode, consist of religious type matters that would have probably got a universal negative backlash from groups alike. That would have been a huge risk and probably would have doomed Berserk. Lets see if they decide to do the Conviction Arc.


Even with the violence and subject matter that it kept, the original TV series honestly seemed too cautious for some of the Black Swordsman era content. The TV series was already holding back a bit in some of the intro and Golden Age content, while the Black Swordsman stuff was darker, more explicit, and more controversial.



New Berserk TV Anime's Cast, Staff, July Premiere Unveiled
With Azan and the rest listed, it looks like the Conviction arc is upon us. This will be great. Lets see how this turns out!





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"What 2D looks like in 3D" , posted Wed 6 Apr 22:58post reply

https://twitter.com/kohta0130/status/717555450799984640/video/1

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"Foolish request" , posted Fri 8 Apr 08:33post reply

Hey Professor, I have a request.

I've gone and changed my name on quite a few forums again. Is it possible to have it changed here as well?

Also, on another note. Reading about Orochinagi considering just sticking to social media got me wondering how much does maintaining this site cost and how can I donate? I've been a member for 10+ years so I thought giving something back would be nice.





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"Re(1):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 01:33:post reply

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Hey Professor, I have a request.

I've gone and changed my name on quite a few forums again. Is it possible to have it changed here as well?

Also, on another note. Reading about Orochinagi considering just sticking to social media got me wondering how much does maintaining this site cost and how can I donate? I've been a member for 10+ years so I thought giving something back would be nice.



No problem about having your name changed, just write down what you want it to be.
(it'd probably be best if you can have that noted in your sig tag for a while, to make sure everyone realizes it.)

Don't worry about server costs, it's not that much burden on me. Thanks very much for the thought!


I sort of understand Orochinagi's dilemna though. Websites are quickly becoming a thing of the past with the advent of Social networking. That said, MMCafe will always stay as a website.





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"Re(2):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 02:45post reply

While you're handing out new identities, can I change mine to Ungenesis? It's what I use on everything else. I haven't actually used Shindekudasai for anything since I first fell in love with KOF and was directed here.

Thanks in advance :)





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"Re(2):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 05:14post reply

quote:

No problem about having your name changed, just write down what you want it to be.
(it'd probably be best if you can have that noted in your sig tag for a while, to make sure everyone realizes it.)

Don't worry about server costs, it's not that much burden on me. Thanks very much for the thought!


I sort of understand Orochinagi's dilemna though. Websites are quickly becoming a thing of the past with the advent of Social networking. That said, MMCafe will always stay as a website.



Great! Now for the shocker.. I'd like to have my name changed to 'LEGENOARYNINLIA' (I'll explain it later)

MMCafe is my #1 source for fighting game news as I don't really care for social media or clickbait-ish sites.





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"Re(3):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 07:02post reply

Since I don't have to donate to keep MMCafe afloat I'm going to pre-order the Art of Atari.





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"Re(3):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 15:40post reply

Shindekudasai-- Done, you can use your new ID from here. Let me know if you have any problems (your current account will still be usable for a temporary period)

TheRedKnight-- Gotcha, but holy cripes, in all CAPS-LOCK? Are you sure about that?





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"Re(4):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 15:51:post reply

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TheRedKnight-- Gotcha, but holy cripes, in all CAPS-LOCK? Are you sure about that?

Is the Cafe ready for a new ONSLAUGHT!?! Remember, with great CAPS comes great responsibility.

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"Re(4):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 16:30post reply

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TheRedKnight-- Gotcha, but holy cripes, in all CAPS-LOCK? Are you sure about that?



I'm 100% sure. Actually, all CAPS is the thing.





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"Re(5):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 18:53post reply

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TheRedKnight-- Gotcha, but holy cripes, in all CAPS-LOCK? Are you sure about that?


I'm 100% sure. Actually, all CAPS is the thing.



Ok then, you are now... LEGENOARYNINLIA.

You can use your new ID from the link above. Let me know if you have any problems (your RedKnight account will still be usable for a temporary period).





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"Re(6):Foolish request" , posted Sat 9 Apr 19:08post reply

quote:

Ok then, you are now... LEGENOARYNINLIA.

You can use your new ID from the link above. Let me know if you have any problems (your RedKnight account will still be usable for a temporary period).



AWESDME. Thank you! You can check my website in my sig for a hint where I got this name from.





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What you say!!

For a minute I had to check whether the feeble bootleg covers of Mortal Kombat were actually from the cover of one of the three copies of the game that were ever sold in Japan, but then of course there is the Super Cartridge Entertainment System.





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Thanks Prof! I feel reborn! Or class changed. Or something. Actually, mostly the same. But accurately labeled!





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"Re(2):Foolish request" , posted Sun 10 Apr 07:14post reply

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I sort of understand Orochinagi's dilemna though. Websites are quickly becoming a thing of the past with the advent of Social networking. That said, MMCafe will always stay as a website.



I can't help but wonder if Orochinagi would be better off if it made sure its news items were about a single thing each, instead of about 3 different unrelated topics - it discourages linking to the site as a source or reference for anything.

Even if the social media presence seems more active, systems like Facebook have an annoying tendency to hide content through obtuse algorithms, so it seems pretty unwise to delegate one's entire online presence to them if a site already exists...





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"Namco allowing third parties to use old IPs?" , posted Fri 15 Apr 12:45post reply

What are the terms of usage?

Squenix has done a similar thing, which is partly responsible for why there's an isometric Fear Effect game being made, but I have to wonder: Pac-Man?! Isn't Tower of Druaga basically ripe for a Dark Souls esque thing? WONDER MOMO! Xevious! Surely the doujin game makers of Japan have to be jumping on this.





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"Kinu update" , posted Thu 21 Apr 12:35post reply

I remember Namco America did the same in the past with webcomics. Which gave us an improbable (if short-lived) WonderMomo comics series, as well as (if I remember correctly) a short Mappy webcomics from PvP's Scott Kurtz.

MMC's perpetual spiritual waifu Kinu Nishimura produced an illustration for a new musical collaboration album coming next month. I guess the use of "Vs." in the album's name encouraged the PR team to aim for a fighting game atmosphere. And now I am left in the cold wondering if the Hiroaki curse™ would have affected Oricon as well...





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"Re(1):Kinu update" , posted Thu 21 Apr 13:03:post reply

quote:
MMC's perpetual spiritual waifu Kinu Nishimura produced an illustration for a new musical collaboration album coming next month. I guess the use of "Vs." in the album's name encouraged the PR team to aim for a fighting game atmosphere. And now I am left in the cold wondering if the Hiroaki curse™ would have affected Oricon as well...



This is one of the cases where the actual musicians look as eccentric as Kinu's artwork, lol. I've frontpaged it, thanks. According to billboard Japan, Avu (the short haired guy in black suit) is a hardcore fan of Kinu and asked her to do the cover. The booklet will look like a fighting game manual as well.





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"Re(2):Kinu update" , posted Thu 21 Apr 13:22:post reply

Maybe you were talking about the photos in the article, but on the illustration, I am pretty sure Avu is both the short-haired guy on the right and the girl (but not really a girl) in a violet blouse and mini-skirt facing him on the left side. From what I get, Avu is the lead vocal for both groups and the main anchor of this collaboration. (And very fluid about his/her gender personification.)





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"Re(3):Kinu update" , posted Thu 21 Apr 13:43post reply

quote:
Maybe you were talking about the photos in the article, but on the illustration, I am pretty sure Avu is both the short-haired guy on the right and the girl (but not really a girl) in a violet blouse and mini-skirt facing him on the left side. From what I get, Avu is the lead vocal for both groups and the main anchor of this collaboration. (And very fluid about his/her gender personification.)


Ah yeah thanks, should've mentioned that as well. Visual-kei bands never cease on their amusement and ideas.

That makes me recall of some Visual-kei band where the musicians were supposed to have Jojo-like Stands. I can't recall their name though...





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Almost correct! We are already married. Kon'in todoke is in the mail, yes.
quote:
Ah yeah thanks, should've mentioned that as well. Visual-kei bands never cease on their amusement and ideas.

Even before X Japan's rebirth, I sort of missed their wild glam days in their first active period even though the music is what mattered.





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"Re(1):Kinu update" , posted Thu 21 Apr 16:55post reply

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I remember Namco America did the same in the past with webcomics. Which gave us an improbable (if short-lived) WonderMomo comics series, as well as (if I remember correctly) a short Mappy webcomics from PvP's Scott Kurtz.

MMC's perpetual spiritual waifu Kinu Nishimura produced an illustration for a new musical collaboration album coming next month. I guess the use of "Vs." in the album's name encouraged the PR team to aim for a fighting game atmosphere. And now I am left in the cold wondering if the Hiroaki curse™ would have affected Oricon as well...



Thanks so much for sharing that! It really made my dady! I started a Kinu Nishimura appreciation thread. She is one of the more influential artists out there, but there's so little information about her available in English. I was hoping maybe all the super knowledgable folks in the Cafe could chime in with some info or even just personal impressions of her work.

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"Re(1):Kinu update" , posted Thu 21 Apr 17:50post reply

quote:
I remember Namco America did the same in the past with webcomics. Which gave us an improbable (if short-lived) WonderMomo comics series, as well as (if I remember correctly) a short Mappy webcomics from PvP's Scott Kurtz.


That Namco thing, the ShiftyLook initiative, didn't so much involve artist applying to work on Namco properties as it did involve a guy working for Namco at the time, Rob Pereyda, trying to revitalize older lower-profile Namco titles by inviting already-known (web)comics artists to work on the corresponding licenses by getting that existing fame to rub off on the settings and characters, and release new games based on the more successful ones.

The problem with that is that most of those guys knew nothing about the stories and lore some of those games already had and just made up their own stuff for the most part - that's not a bad thing in some cases, but it was a bit of a waste to see games part of Namco's UGSF meta series ignoring that altogether for attempts at quirky humor (IIRC the Galaga comic had characters build their ship out of cubic pixels and focused a lot on an original president character; Dig-Dug, on the other hand, got passed around so many artists that there was no coherence to the whole thing, with some acknowledging stuff like Taizo Hori's relationship with Masuyo Tobi from Baraduke whole others called the character Dug, and others just put character props on essentially unrelated strips), or to ignore the existing setting entirely (they invented a new villain and supporting cast for Valkyrie and gave her a childish demeanor peppered with Japanese terms and the kind of language you'd see online from 12-year-old girls, when there were enough resources out there to do better, especially considering Project X Zone was announced at the time and featuring the character and the clash of tones and settings would be clear when that got localized).
Not that wasn't some research and attempts to do right by the games in a few cases, but the whole thing just felt mishandled...





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"Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 02:21post reply

One of the other most glamorous western music icons has died this year. Him and Bowie in the same year within months of each other? Yikes.

At this rate Araki is going to need to start referencing music from the 2000s! Truly scary monsters, indeed.





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"Re(1):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 03:29post reply

I was trying to explain how the news affected me to a friend who doesn't know Jojo, so that was out of question.
I discovered Prince quite late actually, but more than his music, it was the whole character that fascinated me. I knew the antics of "Love Symbol" and "The artist formerly known as Prince", but it wasn't until I understood the guy was laughing the whole time that I finally started liking him. He was a joke, and the best kind of joke: the kind where everyone involved remains dead serious. But there was joyfulness in the act, childish glee, and the rudeness was always funny (except when you were on the receiving end of the joke, of course). That's why Bjork will never, ever manage to be funny, for example.

It is difficult to pick a particular stand-out song out of his huge output, and I'm far from a scholar on the matter. Plus, he always was aggressive against people sharing his music, so it's hard to find illustrations on Youtube.
On the top of my head, when I think of Prince, I think of When Doves cry of course, and Soft&Wet (which was the first Prince song I knew before it was featured in Jojo), Why you wanna treat me so bad, Sexy M.F., Erotic City, Irresistible bitch.... god these titles.

Yeah. Bowie and him (and Eco) don't make a good 2016.





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"Re(2):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 03:56post reply

Years/decades ago when I first saw Prince stuff, I didn't find it so much glamorous as "that looks really strange!" and his moustache never stopped looking like something that I couldn't take seriously: like it was something that a goofball character would have, or a villain that's intended to be mocked. I didn't know what to make of his music, because it was odd. To be honest, I still haven't made it very far through his enormous catalogue of music!

But all of that oddness is certainly a mark of uniqueness, because at the time when I saw those things of Prince, I saw this weird invocation of all kinds of old symbols/images of "glamour", combined with a weird pop/rock sound. It was so actively and earnestly trying to be glamorous, yet including things that I couldn't possibly find glamorous like that moustache. It was bizarre and unique and memorable.





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"Re(3):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 04:09post reply

2016 is turning out to be a real bummer when it comes to music.





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"Re(1):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 09:20:post reply

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One of the other most glamorous western music icons has died this year. Him and Bowie in the same year within months of each other? Yikes.

At this rate Araki is going to need to start referencing music from the 2000s! Truly scary monsters, indeed.



Cripes, one of the biggest living symbol of the 90s! Yes he was odd; everything back in the early-mid 90s as things shifted from the 80s to the more modern era and the very beginning of the internet age was so unique, and he was amongst one of the icons of that. ...Prince isn't even that old though. I'm sad and also really surprised to hear he's gone.





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"Re(2):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 13:16post reply

Prince singing a Bowie song just last week now seems kind of eerie.





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"Re(3):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 15:40post reply

I don't know much about Prince's huge collection of songs, but I do love each of the few songs by him I've ever listened to in my life. That's sad...





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"Re(4):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 20:46post reply

We used to listen to him back in the early 90s. I never seen him during his breakout years but Dave Chapelle remind us of his out of the world charisma here. Comedy central took down the original and better quality video yesterday. This came out in 2003 for those who have not seen it. Just a laugh for you fans.





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"Re(5):Prince has died" , posted Fri 22 Apr 21:01post reply

I love this old anecdote as well. I wonder if the vault mentioned within will be uploaded/commercialized somewhere soon.





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"Re(2):Prince has died" , posted Sat 23 Apr 00:01post reply

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I was trying to explain how the news affected me to a friend who doesn't know Jojo, so that was out of question.
I discovered Prince quite late actually, but more than his music, it was the whole character that fascinated me. I knew the antics of "Love Symbol" and "The artist formerly known as Prince", but it wasn't until I understood the guy was laughing the whole time that I finally started liking him. He was a joke, and the best kind of joke: the kind where everyone involved remains dead serious. But there was joyfulness in the act, childish glee, and the rudeness was always funny (except when you were on the receiving end of the joke, of course). That's why Bjork will never, ever manage to be funny, for example.



Perfectly explained, thank you.





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"Re(2):Prince has died" , posted Sat 23 Apr 04:03post reply

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I knew the antics of "Love Symbol" and "The artist formerly known as Prince", but it wasn't until I understood the guy was laughing the whole time that I finally started liking him.


From what I remember, the "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" era came about due to disagreements he was in with his record label.

While the public saw his changing his name to a made up unpronounceable symbol as some eccentric weirdness or the like, it was allegedly pretty much Prince taking a big shot at Warner Bros. Warner Bros, out of nowhere, were suddenly stuck with having to promote an artist who had to be officially referred to by a brand new symbol that had no known legal pronunciation.





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"Re(3):Prince has died" , posted Sat 23 Apr 11:02:post reply

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I knew the antics of "Love Symbol" and "The artist formerly known as Prince", but it wasn't until I understood the guy was laughing the whole time that I finally started liking him.

From what I remember, the "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" era came about due to disagreements he was in with his record label.

While the public saw his changing his name to a made up unpronounceable symbol as some eccentric weirdness or the like, it was allegedly pretty much Prince taking a big shot at Warner Bros. Warner Bros, out of nowhere, were suddenly stuck with having to promote an artist who had to be officially referred to by a brand new symbol that had no known legal pronunciation.



One of my favourite Prince stories was caught on film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHaFj7gOWh4

During a 1983 James Brown concert, the hardest working man in showbiz caught wind that Michael Jackson was in the audience. After a little playful pleading, he successfully called him up to the stage and Michael did a little song and dance number that sent the audience berserk.

THEN it's revealed that muthaflippin Prince is also in the audience. After much pleading from James Brown, Prince emerges from the audience astride a giant man who looks like an older, white haired Hugo from Third Strike (he was even dressed like him). Prince calmly grabs a guitar from one of the band members and starts shredding it. The audience goes NUTS. He then removes his shirt, grabs the mic, exhales just a single long breath and breaks out into some JoJo esque dance poses. At this point the audience reaches a fever pitch, probably realising that this is the coolest thing they will ever experience in their lives. Prince then calmly walks off stage, remounting the giant he rode in on and taking a street lamp prop down with him.






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"Re(4):Prince has died" , posted Sat 23 Apr 11:23post reply

Albino Mode Hugo was a frequent fixture of Prince's apparitions on TV at the time.





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Albino Mode Hugo was a frequent fixture of Prince's apparitions on TV at the time.



Grandpa Hugo dressed like his clone Abigail was actually named Charles Huntsberry, and the crazy thing is, he was only 49 years old when died!.... in 1990.

He died literally months after Final Fight was released. I hope he lived to see it.





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South Korea government tells games to cease resistance or die trying. Is funny since S Korea is pretty damn huge in gaming which pretty big events and many in many games the "world's bests" are usually from there.






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Albino Mode Hugo was a frequent fixture of Prince's apparitions on TV at the time.


Grandpa Hugo dressed like his clone Abigail was actually named Charles Huntsberry, and the crazy thing is, he was only 49 years old when died!.... in 1990.

He died literally months after Final Fight was released. I hope he lived to see it.



This just occurred to me after Toxico's amusing topic bump.... but anyway, I once asked Slash of Guns N' Roses if he knew that there was a character named after him in Final Fight. He told me he did play a few SNES games, but he never played/didn't remember Final Fight. I mean, I did imagine that he was probably doing slightly more memorable things in the early 90s than playing video games... but I couldn't help but be mildly disappointed.





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"Re(1):Final Fight/Parallel Universes" , posted Fri 13 May 20:49post reply

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This just occurred to me after Toxico's amusing topic bump.... but anyway



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"Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Sat 4 Jun 13:49:post reply

This is some way to end the week.

There are few people as iconic and memorable as Muhammed Ali.

2016 is like some kind of Ragnarok. Either that, or in a after the fall of so many legends, somebody is going to kindle the First Flame.





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"Re(1):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Sat 4 Jun 15:27post reply

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This is some way to end the week.

There are few people as iconic and memorable as Muhammed Ali.

2016 is like some kind of Ragnarok. Either that, or in a after the fall of so many legends, somebody is going to kindle the First Flame.



RIP Ali. What an incredible fighter and cultural icon.

It just occurred to me today ... There are many fighting game characters based off of Mike Tyson, but are there any based off of boxing Icon Mohammed Ali? I can't think of any off the top of my head.






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"Re(2):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Sat 4 Jun 15:42post reply

A legendary sportsman, but more importantly a great person. What a sad day...





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"Re(2):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Sun 5 Jun 03:44post reply

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It just occurred to me today ... There are many fighting game characters based off of Mike Tyson, but are there any based off of boxing Icon Mohammed Ali? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

That is strange. Back in the day developers were never shy about "borrowing" from outside sources and Ali had such a larger than life personality that one would think he could easily work in a game.





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"Re(3):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Sun 5 Jun 07:30post reply

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It just occurred to me today ... There are many fighting game characters based off of Mike Tyson, but are there any based off of boxing Icon Mohammed Ali? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
That is strange. Back in the day developers were never shy about "borrowing" from outside sources and Ali had such a larger than life personality that one would think he could easily work in a game.



Keep in mind that the time Tyson was in his prime and becoming the icon of boxing was in the mid-to-late 80s. So him becoming great came maybe 10+ years after Ali's last good match?

If you consider how plenty of games followed fashion trends of the moment, I don't think it's that surprising that Tyson was the unanimous pick of the 80s and 90s.

That since then, more boxer characters haven't been based on him is kind of odd, though!

Though I like to think that the true heir to Ali are character action game heroes like Dante and Bayonetta. The constant taunts, the impossible speed and dodging, God Hand's direct references to Tyson notwithstanding.





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"Re(4):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Sun 5 Jun 22:33post reply

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If you consider how plenty of games followed fashion trends of the moment, I don't think it's that surprising that Tyson was the unanimous pick of the 80s and 90s.

That since then, more boxer characters haven't been based on him is kind of odd, though!

Though I like to think that the true heir to Ali are character action game heroes like Dante and Bayonetta. The constant taunts, the impossible speed and dodging, God Hand's direct references to Tyson notwithstanding.


That's true, if there ever was someone born with a dedicated taunt button it was Ali.

What's interesting is that while Japanese game developers used to add in whatever was in the last magazine or manga they read they still had no problem repeatedly referencing Bruce Lee, a man who died in 1973. I guess that says something about how celebrities can have varying levels of cultural impact in different parts of the world.





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"Re(5):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Mon 6 Jun 02:48post reply

If there's one thing of Ali that got absorbed into the japanese popculture, it's the sentence "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee". Any characters even vaguely associated with either insect (and probably many others) used the sentence at some point.
However, I have the feeling in Japanese entertainment, it's mostly used by sexy&deadly women (a similar use to "the roses have thorns" image). I think Nôhime in either Basara or Musou used this catchphrase, for example.
And since the image of a boxer was so powerfully associated with a Tyson-like body type and attitude, it was difficult to reconcile that image with the "float like a butterfly" part.

Plus, I'd rather get stung by a bee several times than punched by Muhammed Ali, so I'm still not sure where he was going with that sentence.





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"Re(6):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Mon 6 Jun 13:15post reply

Jacky Bryant quotes Ali in Virtua Fighter 4 when he wins a match with "Yes! I've done handcuffed lightning" but it's not an exact quote.





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"Re(2):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Mon 6 Jun 13:26post reply

Nobinobita likes to say that the reason crouching kicks are a thing in fighting games is because all of Japan watched Inoki use it to great effect against Ali.

Speaking of butterbees, MountainGraphics has a nice tribute to Ali (and Hudsonsoft)
https://twitter.com/MOUNTAINGRAPHIC/status/739455749680664576





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"Re(3):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Mon 6 Jun 15:18post reply

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Nobinobita likes to say that the reason crouching kicks are a thing in fighting games is because all of Japan watched Inoki use it to great effect against Ali.

Speaking of butterbees, MountainGraphics has a nice tribute to Ali (and Hudsonsoft)
https://twitter.com/MOUNTAINGRAPHIC/status/739455749680664576



I remember hearing about this in the past, but I decided to look it up again and found a really good article if anyone else was interested.





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"Re(6):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Mon 6 Jun 18:46post reply

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If there's one thing of Ali that got absorbed into the japanese popculture, it's the sentence "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee". Any characters even vaguely associated with either insect (and probably many others) used the sentence at some point.



As for the relationship between Ali and Japan, I was going to mention the whole Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye thing, but it seems the Nobi bros already had it covered. By the way, that article Mosquiton has linked is awesome too, thanks for sharing!

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"Re(7):Muhammed Ali has died" , posted Tue 7 Jun 02:20post reply

An interesting anecdote about Prince meeting Muhammed Ali that is probably every single SNS, but we talked about Prince recently so it can be here too.





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"Re(1):Shoryuken day?" , posted Fri 24 Jun 03:42post reply

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"Re(2):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Fri 24 Jun 22:55post reply

The UK has voted to exit the EU, with David Cameron promising to resign after new leadership is selected.

Since Iggy mentioned in the other thread that he's in London, how is this schism in the Union being reported for cafers currently in the EU? Aside from little things like the UK currency dropping to its lowest levels in decades and the UK likely needing to renegotiate every single trade agreement it has with every entity in the rest of Europe and the results of just those two little things..... oh who am I kidding. But surely, it can't be all bad? Can it?





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"Re(3):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Sat 25 Jun 00:58post reply

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The UK has voted to exit the EU, with David Cameron promising to resign after new leadership is selected.

Since Iggy mentioned in the other thread that he's in London, how is this schism in the Union being reported for cafers currently in the EU? Aside from little things like the UK currency dropping to its lowest levels in decades and the UK likely needing to renegotiate every single trade agreement it has with every entity in the rest of Europe and the results of just those two little things..... oh who am I kidding. But surely, it can't be all bad? Can it?

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"Re(4):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Sat 25 Jun 01:50post reply

Yeah the UK thing blows my mind. Hoping that the fallout doesn't hurt any Cafe guests. Not that the US doesn't have its share of silly problems... <_<





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"Re(3):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Sat 25 Jun 02:04post reply

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how is this schism in the Union being reported for cafers currently in the EU?


London, Scotland and Northern Ireland voted remain. People in derelict places in England outside of London voted exit. Educated people voted remain, uneducated people voted exit. Baby boomers voted exit, screwing over young people who wanted to stay.
- The pound has plummeted to a 30 year low
- Japanese stock market has crashed 8% and suspended trading
- Confirmation of another Scottish independence referendum, which this time will be a solid "yes", as some of the people who wanted to remain in the UK wanted to remain in Europe (plus, the way Cameron reacted to the result of that poll infuriated many "remain" voters, so they will vote "out" the next time they have the opportunity)
- Calls for an Irish reunification referendum (it would be amazing if the English's stupidity ended up so noxious that the Irish would prefer to join forces away from their former overlords)(though probably Ireland wouldn't accept NI easily, they could end up creating a Celtic Ireland-NI-Scotland federation?)
- Far-right nationalists across Europe now calling for referendums and the demise of the EU (bye-bye France in 2017)
- There is no opposition. Left wing was slowly crawling out of the whole the financial crisis buried it, but all has been trashed in one day. Chose between neoliberal assholes and neoliberal xenophobic morons.
- Hundreds of UK pension funds underwater
- FTSE is expected to open 10% down (for perspective: the bankers knocked 8% off in the 2007 financial crash)
- German DAX market expected to open 10% down
- HSBC is worth £10bn less since yesterday
- S&P has announced that UK now likely to lose its AAA credit rating
- In two hours the UK economy has lost over £255bn, the equivalent of 40 years' worth of EU contributions
- The Prime Minister has resigned
- The UK has down slipped down to the 6th largest economy

Last time the markets fell like this, the UK had to spend £340bn to re-capitalise the banks. People have lost a fifth of their pension funds overnight. This is causing a complete bloodbath on the markets right now. Our savings are worth 31% less than they were yesterday.

And it's not just about money (not that Brexiters couldn't cope with a £190m net spend a week or anything) we are now looking at being solely governed by a party who want to rip up the worker's rights and privatize the healthcare system.

The only good thing that may come out of this is if people in the US suddenly realize that Trump presidency is a very real danger and they need to actively stop it.
Up until 48 hours ago, no one in London considered the Brexit could realistically win, and look where we're now.





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"Re(4):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Sat 25 Jun 02:58:post reply

You know, I used to ruthlessly hassle potential political threads at the Cafe, but the Brexit debacle has such wide-ranging social and economic consequences that I think it's fair game.

A question for Lord Iggy'nton from his UK vantage point: given that the move is already manifestly bad for the UK, and that Tories are likely to get pummeled for this anyway, what exactly compels Parliament to obey this legally non-binding referendum anyway? It sounds anti-democratic, but I'm not certain I see how voluntarily submitting to the results of an unforced error on Cameron's part is necessary, especially when it will inflict such obvious an unnecessary harm. What's the worst that the Leave faction can do...vote out Cameron and the Stay faction of the Tories?

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"Re(5):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Sat 25 Jun 03:44post reply

quote:
given that the move is already manifestly bad for the UK, and that Tories are likely to get pummeled for this anyway, what exactly compels Parliament to obey this legally non-binding referendum anyway? It sounds anti-democratic, but I'm not certain I see how voluntarily submitting to the results of an unforced error on Cameron's part is necessary, especially when it will inflict such obvious an unnecessary harm. What's the worst that the Leave faction can do...vote out Cameron and the Stay faction of the Tories?

I do not know.
Maybe?
When democracy is obviously wrong and voted to go away from an anti-democratic bureaucracy, would the anti-democratic option be any better?
The only chance I would see that happening is whether the new prime minister would call for a new election, and the British people would suddenly come to their sense and vote massively for MPs opposed to Brexit. But MPs should be clear about what they will defend if they get voted in: being elected on a Brexit program and enforcing the opposite (like, an economically sound program to remain in the EU) could lead to similar results as in France right now (a government elected on left wing promises that passed several extreme right wing and anti-democratic laws).
The UK has also a long history of taking liberties with democracy: UKIP won a huge amount of votes but ended up with 1 MP, while the Tories got 40% votes but the majority of the MPs because reasons. Especially if Nicola Sturgeon moves too swiftly, a ScotLeave scare could decide the British establishment to act.
And now I feel dirty to hope the anti-democratic option would happen. Especially because it wouldn't solve the issue and the UKIP vote would only grow stronger.


The British are frantically Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it
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This is a serious article.

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"Re(6):ShoryUKen day poll" , posted Sat 25 Jun 06:15:post reply

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The British are frantically Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it.

Tsk, what a day. Nothing to do but lighten up current events by connecting them to games!

Cefca: [Kicks Emperor's body] "You old geezer. I'm taking back what I said before about you being useless...because YOU, Emperor, are less than useless!"

Emperor: The world will be enveloped in fear...


We are now polling for the best analogy! I can't decide if the slain Emperor is Cameron, and Cefca is Firage (this is kind of a discredit to Cefca, though the lunacy angle is apt), or whether the Emperor is the UK itself getting pushed off the floating continent...





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"Re(7):ShoryUKen day poll" , posted Sat 25 Jun 11:07post reply

At least the Internet is entertaining again.





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"Re(6):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Sat 25 Jun 19:03:post reply

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The British are frantically Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it.
This is a serious article.



This is exactly why I hope any other European country will wait at least 12 months before allowing another referendum like this one, so that perhaps also stupid people have enough time to see what the real consequences are.
I'm extremely sorry for the UK people, I only hope we are not next (Italian here).





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"Re(7):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Sun 26 Jun 15:11:post reply

I'm not smart nor cultured enough to be able to talk about politics and contribute to this discussion, so I'll just thank Spoon and KT: I appreciate your concern for EU resident Cafers. I'm worried about the threat of a serious downfall in exports from Italy to the UK though, since Italy is (maybe stereotypically?) known worldwide for basically sustaining itself by exporting certain kinds of products, and our economy wasn't in a bright condition already before the leave vote in the UK...

Ah, the ShoryUKen pun is a thing of brilliance you can only get here at the Cafe. As dramatic as the state of the EU is right now, I must say I love it.

And even the fighting games side of the eSports world doesn't get away without UK jokes...
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"Re(8):ShoryUKen day?" , posted Mon 27 Jun 06:25post reply

I would have gone for SHORYUKIP.

Anyway, I am just glad Iggy can always escape to greener, chest-hairier pastures such as Spain where young people are not getting their future screwed by the voting of old people oh wait nope it's totally happening as well.





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"Bravo Claudio" , posted Mon 27 Jun 14:48post reply

I suspect Toxico doesn't give a shit but congratulations Toxico on your football team trolling Argentina again. At the very least, it must have been easy to get laid and/or get a free drink last night. (EA also announced J-League teams to be included for the first time in this year's FIFA game.)





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"Re(1):Bravo Claudio" , posted Tue 28 Jun 03:36post reply

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I suspect Toxico doesn't give a shit but congratulations Toxico on your football team trolling Argentina again. At the very least, it must have been easy to get laid and/or get a free drink last night. (EA also announced J-League teams to be included for the first time in this year's FIFA game.)



I was glad for my team winning the Copa America. At least this should give more credibility for our team that wasn't on good terms with his fanbase at the beginning of the cup

Bravo's catch was from another level, a Condor indeed.

And I feel super bad for Messi, that burden really is undeserved, wihout him Argentina will be even more dead





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"Re(2):Bravo Claudio" , posted Tue 28 Jun 07:05:post reply

quote:
I suspect Toxico doesn't give a shit but congratulations Toxico on your football team trolling Argentina again. At the very least, it must have been easy to get laid and/or get a free drink last night.


I was glad for my team winning the Copa America. At least this should give more credibility for our team that wasn't on good terms with his fanbase at the beginning of the cup

Bravo's catch was from another level, a Condor indeed.

And I feel super bad for Messi, that burden really is undeserved, wihout him Argentina will be even more dead


Whoa there, we have some football fans here in MMC? I brought up Copa America last after you Chile had the volcano eruption but no one said anything in regards to football afterward. That save from Bravo on the 99th minutes was out of this world!
Me personally, I feel Argentina will be better without Messi. Its a long story.

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EA also announced J-League teams to be included for the first time in this year's FIFA game.



Awesome, with Gamba Boy as my MMC avatar, go Gamba Osaka!





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"Re(3):Bravo Claudio" , posted Wed 29 Jun 02:03:post reply

quote:
I suspect Toxico doesn't give a shit but congratulations Toxico on your football team trolling Argentina again. At the very least, it must have been easy to get laid and/or get a free drink last night.


I was glad for my team winning the Copa America. At least this should give more credibility for our team that wasn't on good terms with his fanbase at the beginning of the cup

Bravo's catch was from another level, a Condor indeed.

And I feel super bad for Messi, that burden really is undeserved, wihout him Argentina will be even more dead

Whoa there, we have some football fans here in MMC? I brought up Copa America last after you Chile had the volcano eruption but no one said anything in regards to football afterward. That save from Bravo on the 99th minutes was out of this world!
Me personally, I feel Argentina will be better without Messi. Its a long story.


EA also announced J-League teams to be included for the first time in this year's FIFA game.


Awesome, with Gamba Boy as my MMC avatar, go Gamba Osaka!



Is cool to see the J-league, as a child I watched an football anime called goal FH were they used the names of real teams like Shimizu S-PULSE and the Verdy Kawasaki, and I really love their shirts since they were so 90's (Verdy Kawasaki and S-PULSE

I still like the actual S-PULSE shirt since still feels like something not conventional to today standards (Unlike the actual tokyo verdy that looks like something that my friends football team will use)

How is the japanese league? is successful? they fill stadiums?

And btw, the most curious thing of GOAL FH for me, is that unlike Captain Tsubasa Cena, the protagonist lost a lot of his matches, and since it seems that the series was cancelled, it seems that he never got retribution, so in my eyes they were a bunch of losers (but I could be wrong, I watched the series as a child)





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"Re(4):Bravo Claudio" , posted Wed 29 Jun 21:54:post reply

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Is cool to see the J-league, as a child I watched an football anime called goal FH were they used the names of real teams like Shimizu S-PULSE and the Verdy Kawasaki, and I really love their shirts since they were so 90's (Verdy Kawasaki and S-PULSE

I still like the actual S-PULSE shirt since still feels like something not conventional to today standards (Unlike the actual tokyo verdy that looks like something that my friends football team will use)

How is the japanese league? is successful? they fill stadiums?

And btw, the most curious thing of GOAL FH for me, is that unlike Captain Tsubasa Cena, the protagonist lost a lot of his matches, and since it seems that the series was cancelled, it seems that he never got retribution, so in my eyes they were a bunch of losers (but I could be wrong, I watched the series as a child)



J-league has done pretty good for itself since 1992. Actually, football in Japan is quite large. Four divisions plus regional and prefecture leagues consist of a huge amount of teams. J-league teams have won the AFC (Asian clubs) champions league three times since 1992. However, the last time they won was in 2008 by Gamba Osaka. J-league attracts many players from out of the country. The majority of the players that come are from Brazil.

J-League attracts many fans and has great chants with their huge banners and flags popping up. I mainly follow Gamba Osaka and they recently build a new stadium. The money is there as the fans support their teams greatly. Not much fights or people getting injured like in Central/South America. At least I have not seen it or heard but maybe they do. The atmosphere is not as insane yet like CONMEBOL leagues.

J-league teams have great looking jerseys and VERY expensive. The jerseys are difficult to purchase and expensive to send. Everyone makes fun of Shizumu S-Pulse jerseys because of the world globe in the background. They still use it till this day. Verdy Kawasaki is now Tokyo Verdy.

I found this website that has collections and history of all J league team jerseys that are pretty neat to look at. They also do national and club teams around the world. It’s a very unique website and great to navigate through. You can check highlights of J-League games on its official YouTube channel here.

I will check out Goal FH. Thanks for the recommendation.





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"Re(5):Bravo Claudio" , posted Thu 30 Jun 01:30:post reply

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Is cool to see the J-league, as a child I watched an football anime called goal FH were they used the names of real teams like Shimizu S-PULSE and the Verdy Kawasaki, and I really love their shirts since they were so 90's (Verdy Kawasaki and S-PULSE

I still like the actual S-PULSE shirt since still feels like something not conventional to today standards (Unlike the actual tokyo verdy that looks like something that my friends football team will use)

How is the japanese league? is successful? they fill stadiums?

And btw, the most curious thing of GOAL FH for me, is that unlike Captain Tsubasa Cena, the protagonist lost a lot of his matches, and since it seems that the series was cancelled, it seems that he never got retribution, so in my eyes they were a bunch of losers (but I could be wrong, I watched the series as a child)


J-league has done pretty good for itself since 1992. Actually, football in Japan is quite large. Four divisions plus regional and prefecture leagues consist of a huge amount of teams. J-league teams have won the AFC (Asian clubs) champions league three times since 1992. However, the last time they won was in 2008 by Gamba Osaka. J-league attracts many players from out of the country. The majority of the players that come are from Brazil.

J-League attracts many fans and has great chants with their huge banners and flags popping up. I mainly follow Gamba Osaka and they recently build a new stadium. The money is there as the fan

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How expensive are we talking?

Gamba Osaka Shirt reminds me of the one from chilean team Huachipato





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"Re(6):Bravo Claudio" , posted Thu 30 Jun 10:05post reply

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How expensive are we talking?

Gamba Osaka Shirt reminds me of the one from chilean team Huachipato




They can range from 8,000 yen to 16,000 yen for replicas. Authentic player issued ones run over 20,000 yen. For those getting one outside Japan will have the price go higher. You can get J-league jerseys on Yahoo auctions. I think jgrab shut down recently. You can use Rakuten and Buyee to purchase from some shops like Amazon. Many soccer jersey stores like Kamo, SWS, FootballMax, and Kishispo are first rate but need Japanese credit card. Tenso can help ship overseas at a lower price range.

Some shops on this side like worldsoccershop, subside sports, and futfanatics had one or two here and there.





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"Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Sun 3 Jul 08:49post reply

For the 2nd time DC Comics released a free KFC comic - that this exists is already an oddity, that they kept doing after the first one even more so, but it's amusing that despite being a commercial it's pretty steeped into DC mythos, especially in the specifics of the DC multiverse, including the role of the Flash on the history of that particular element of the comics.
A bit of silly fun, really, but I wish every cross-promotional initiative would involve this sort of effort.
Also, a multiverse of KFCs would mean that some out there might serve rice as an alternative to fries like they did in Portugal when I first started going to the place.





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"Re(1):Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Mon 4 Jul 05:14post reply

I don't know if DC in-jokes are a great way to push fried chicken but what do I know? Between this, the numerous celebrity Colonels and the Sanders video games it seems the KFC ad department is trying just about everything nowadays.





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"Re(2):Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Tue 5 Jul 05:10post reply

So Colonel Sanders is going to join Injustice 2? That's all I want to know.





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"Re(3):Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Tue 5 Jul 06:13post reply

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So Colonel Sanders is going to join Injustice 2? That's all I want to know.



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"Re(4):Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Tue 5 Jul 06:22post reply

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Colonel Sanders VS Uncle Sam!




The civil war aspect of this would be so terrific that I actually would want this to happen. In fact, wasn't Kentucky somewhat neutral during the civil war as a border state? The whole conflict could be amazing.







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"Re(5):Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Tue 5 Jul 08:02post reply

I doubt Sanders can make it to Injustice, but since the new comic has a Colonel Grodd in it, maybe that could be an outfit for Grodd - then again, apparently the game has some armor system that might get in the way of that.

quote:
Colonel Sanders VS Uncle Sam!

The civil war aspect of this would be so terrific that I actually would want this to happen. In fact, wasn't Kentucky somewhat neutral during the civil war as a border state? The whole conflict could be amazing.



Seeing both characters in the same sentence reminds me of the Uncle Sam comic illustrated by Alex Ross, with both some interesting takes on American history, its symbols and some of its allies and enemies, and a culmination with a confrontation of a beaten down Sam seeing his ideals perverted, and the more successful version of himself perverting them - which has some parallels with the lighter and simpler Colonel comic.

BTW, it should be possible to read both Colonel comics here (link's the the first one, the new one is further above, since it was posted earlier) for a while, since apparently the older one is harder to find on comiXology unless you got it last year or so.

Seeing how this and Segata's PXZ2 presence turned out, I can't help but wonder how making more characters like that work off of each other could turn out, like the Colonel, Pepsiman, Segata Sanshiro, and so on... a webcomic waiting to happen for anyone talented enough to make that work.





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"Re(6):Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Wed 6 Jul 01:35post reply

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BTW, it should be possible to read both Colonel comics here (link's the the first one, the new one is further above, since it was posted earlier) for a while, since apparently the older one is harder to find on comiXology unless you got it last year or so.

What's crazy is that I thought your URL was going to take me to a completely different Colonel Sanders comic that was published in the not too distant past.

Should I start collecting Colonel Sanders comics now or should I wait for them to be collected into the KFC Omnibus?







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"Re(7):Krypton Fried Chicken" , posted Wed 6 Jul 05:59post reply

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BTW, it should be possible to read both Colonel comics here (link's the the first one, the new one is further above, since it was posted earlier) for a while, since apparently the older one is harder to find on comiXology unless you got it last year or so.
What's crazy is that I thought your URL was going to take me to a completely different Colonel Sanders comic that was published in the not too distant past.

Should I start collecting Colonel Sanders comics now or should I wait for them to be collected into the KFC Omnibus?



The whole initiative seems to be oddly time bound - I can't find the comic you link refers to, and it seems comiXology only make Colonel of Two Worlds visible in the store if you got it back when it was released... what an odd thing to apply the ills of the digital future to, especially when comic's referencing stuff that hasn't been in the actual comics in a while - based on comments in the Reddit thread about it, Impulse/Bart Allen hasn't been in a DC comic in 5 years (outside a quick cameo in Multiversity last year IIRC), but they put them in this.





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"Coup d'etat in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 06:55post reply

What is with this year? It's crazytown nonstop.

Mainly out of concern for resident Turk kofoguz, reports out of Istanbul are that a coordinated military takeover of multiple government institutions and key points of Istanbul has happened. Stay safe, kofoguz.







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"Re(1):Coup d'etat in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 07:59post reply

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What is with this year? It's crazytown nonstop.

Mainly out of concern for resident Turk kofoguz, reports out of Istanbul are that a coordinated military takeover of multiple government institutions and key points of Istanbul has happened. Stay safe, kofoguz.

Holy mackerel. By most accounts the current prez is a huge jackass, but coups are best left to Rolento. Be safe, Oguz/French cafe/man,everyonethesedays.





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"Re(2):Coup d'etat in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 09:21post reply

Apparently, the Reichtag has burned.





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"Re(2):Coup d'etat in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 10:27post reply

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Stay safe, kofoguz.
Holy mackerel. By most accounts the current prez is a huge jackass, but coups are best left to Rolento. Be safe, Oguz/French cafe/man,everyonethesedays.



Indeed, the entire world is becoming an increasingly chaotic, violent place. It's scary.

I hope kofoguz is well, and his family and friends, too. And as many people living in Turkey as possible, too.





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"Re(3):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 12:38:post reply

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Stay safe, kofoguz.
Holy mackerel. By most accounts the current prez is a huge jackass, but coups are best left to Rolento. Be safe, Oguz/French cafe/man,everyonethesedays.


Indeed, the entire world is becoming an increasingly chaotic, violent place. It's scary.

I hope kofoguz is well, and his family and friends, too. And as many people living in Turkey as possible, too.



Thank you Spoon,Maou ans JaP.

Right now Im not in Turkey.Im in Sweden for a year. But majority of my friends are in Istanbul (they are safe), my childhood friend is in Ankara. Still couldnt reach him. My family is in the south (Adana) even though it's three hours to Syria it is safe from whats happening but Im afraid it wont be the same in near future. My brother called me and told me they are safe. Also told me not to worry about my friend he is probably sleeping since he works different shifts so he sleeps accordingly. Still a bit worried about him eventhough he is away from city center.

Btw we can tell this is autocoup.This way that bastard can have the presidential system and become president. President of Republic suppose to have lesser control so its not enough for that power hungry bastard. He knows after he is finished if hecannot keep himself on the presidential seat. The moment he step off he knows the criminal empire he calls government will crumble and he will pay all his crimes in jail. So he doesnt see any wrong about driving country in chaos. Sorry for the political rant but those three hours are nothing things will be worse, much worse from now on.
He is basically Bison now but you know with a sucky design.Like Bison steals and manipulates psycho power of İngrid, Erdoğan uses naive peoples beliefs and fears to go all psycho crusher through country...


Why does the innocent people has to pay with their life because of these power hungry maniacs. Also I am so sorry for what happened in France too. Its official 2016 is the suckiest year.


Edit: He is fine. He just wrote me.





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"Re(4):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 17:01post reply

Kofoguz, I'm glad you and your beloved ones are safe. My prayers to the French and the Turkish. I agree with JaP, the world is getting scarier and scarier between terrorism and cruel, distorted use of politics...





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"Re(4):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 18:12:post reply

Yesterday I wake up and it's France, today it's Turkey... by lord, 2016 is crazy.

KOFGuz I'm glad that you and yours are safe and unharmed. It's quite unfortunatehow turbulent things are.





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"Re(5):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Sat 16 Jul 23:52post reply

I'm glad to hear that you and yours are well Kofoguz. I'm also sorry that things are so dire that you have to offer these reassurances.







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"Re(6):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Sun 17 Jul 06:29post reply

Kofoguz, I'm very happy to hear that you're okay!

This has been an absolutely ridiculous year, yikes!





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"Re(6):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Mon 18 Jul 02:29post reply

Kofoguz, I am glad to hear you are safe. I hope your loved ones remain safe as well.






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"Re(7):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Mon 18 Jul 14:01post reply

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Kofoguz, I am glad to hear you are safe. I hope your loved ones remain safe as well.

Thank you everyone. I was off internet for a qhile so I wouldn't go crazy I just dont understand. Unfortunately with this there is almost no hope from me for my country the idiotic politic things were common but I wasnt expecting these kind of ridicule. As a known opposer, and a gay guy (who was in the semi closet and somehow managed to secretly help lgbt activism) for the government I wont be safe in Turkey for a while. My future shifted vastly and Im not so sure for the better.Now there should be miracle for things to go back to normal. There will be a witch hunt for everyone whos not them, there is already neighbourhood occupation in various cities.

I am ashamed we are still living in a world where disasters are so common that we just got used to it and anybody we know and love could be in danger. The tragedies also start to happen within days. First Nice shootings and the very next day auto coup.

Thank you guys for your good wishes again. And I hope Cafe members also to be safe with their loved ones.







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"Re(8):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Wed 20 Jul 02:31post reply

"More than 1,500 university deans have also been ordered to resign and the licences of 21,000 teachers working at private institutions revoked."

Just awful.





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"Re(8):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Wed 20 Jul 03:58post reply

Kofoguz, it's heartwarming to see you're concerned for everyone...thank you a lot.





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"Re(9):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Wed 20 Jul 21:01post reply

quote:
"More than 1,500 university deans have also been ordered to resign and the licences of 21,000 teachers working at private institutions revoked."

Just awful.



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"Re(10):Auto Coup in Turkey" , posted Thu 21 Jul 02:01post reply

Kofguz, glad to hear you're safe too.

I have distant relatives in Turkey but I haven't been there since I was 2. What was once a secularist state now seems increasingly Islamic... if all the secular Turks flee the country (if they all already haven't)... I don't even want to think about what will happen.

It's really a shame when a safe life isn't possible in your home country.





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"Koike Yuriko #CreateNewTokyo" , posted Mon 1 Aug 04:15:post reply

I am curious about Prof's opinion Tokyo's new governor Koike Yuriko, new joining member of the Pretty Sailor Glass Cliff 2016 All Star team. She's the first female Tokyo governor, so that's cool. But she's also a super conservative that loves going to Yasukuni and promotes the purge of self-criticism in history books. That's less cool. But she's also antagonistic with Abe, which is an interesting dynamic. And she is really into the promotion of anime and otaku culture as an economic strength for Tokyo, which is a peculiar political calculation (do otaku actually go out and vote ? For anything else than their favourite AKB, I mean).





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"Re(1):Koike Yuriko #CreateNewTokyo" , posted Mon 1 Aug 09:36:post reply

Pretty Soldier Sailor Koike creates such deliciously weird emotions. First, watch how I tie this gloriously into video games by noting that like Dragon Quest composer Sugiyami Kouichi, she is an idiot with psychotic-delusional views of history. Ick. But! I loved how her strategy involved infuriating her own party of psychotic-delusionals by running an unofficial LDP campaign and splitting their vote, bearing their sexist insults, yet still managing to defeat not only her party's official candidate but everyone else. I can't decide if she's a clumsy successful Sailor Moon or Queen Beryl.

...If we wed the two themes together, maybe she's actually a Girls Und Panzer character.





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"Re(1):Koike Yuriko #CreateNewTokyo" , posted Mon 1 Aug 21:18:post reply

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I am curious about Prof's opinion Tokyo's new governor Koike Yuriko, new joining member of the Pretty Sailor Glass Cliff



First off, this sudden Tokyo mayor election was outright just awful and people were calling it a "50 hundred million yen tax-paid gacha with no chances of drawing a wanted card". Everyone knew it was either going to be senile grandpa Torigoe or Koike which is picking one vice over another.

Given that Koike was the minister of Defense it's not too surprising of her right-wing views, and I don't really have much to say about that except that it's unfortunate. The relationship between Japan and Korea/China has been turbulent and it certainly won't be getting better any time soon.

As for her promotion towards anime and otaku culture, it wouldn't be surprising if it was a calculated move to get young votes. Maybe she noticed how the relatively unknown pro-otaku counsillor candidate Yamada Tarou actually got 290k votes during election (didn't win though), or maybe she realized that a fair share of hikikomori otakus can be right-wing.

Despite her claims to be pro-otaku, given some of her past comments, the thing to wonder now is whether she'll be acting against anime/manga depicted porn, which is a pretty delicate issue since it blends in with freedom of expression. Whether Koike can distinguish between something that's simply "Moe" or outright porn is another topic as well.

One of the best things about Tokyo is its freedom of expression which is almost chaotic (especially evident when you hit certain locations like Akiba), so it'd be a shame if that got toned down.





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"Re(2):Trump Donald #CreateOldUSA" , posted Sat 6 Aug 02:10:post reply

A sublime article about translating Donald Trump by the lady who translated MGS2 and the Katamari Damacy games. Shaka, when the walls fell.

She evidently also had some kind of a feud with the guy who wrote The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers, but I am not well-informed on that saga.





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"Re(3):Trump Donald #CreateOldUSA" , posted Sat 6 Aug 09:21post reply

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A sublime article about translating Donald Trump by the lady who translated MGS2 and the Katamari Damacy games. Shaka, when the walls fell.

Holy hell, this just made me realize: while the masterful Chiba "F.A.N.G." Shigeru's sublime acting in Dissidia is close, the TRUE voice of FFVI's Cefca is Trump! It's all there: the weird, unsettling jumps in sentence structure, the manic switches in tone... Cefca in the 1994 US version is creepy because of his jokey tone amidst the psychosis, whereas it's the wild vacillation in speaking style and formality in the original that defines him. Trump is the new FFVI fan retranslation.

Sadly, Japanese media's tendency towards lifeless translation makes it hard to experience the joys of Trump. A land of seiyuu could never recreate Bush's doltish delivery or malaprops, either. On the other hand, few English translations conveyed the delight of Aso's low reading level or Abe's awful presentation skills.





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"Re(3):Trump Donald #CreateOldUSA" , posted Sat 6 Aug 10:29post reply

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She evidently also had some kind of a feud with the guy who wrote The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers, but I am not well-informed on that saga.



It was an ugly he-said-she-said situation of alleged low quality work, claims of libel, and multiple lawsuits.

On the lawsuits side, Kaku has tried filing suit against Szczepaniak in two different countries. She lost the first suit (in France) and the second (in the UK) never made it to court. She has appealed the first loss twice, and has lost both appeals. Her most recent appeal loss resulted in her being fined by the court, ordered to pay Szczepaniak's legal fees.







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"Paralympic archer is awesome" , posted Mon 8 Aug 04:21post reply

Surely there's a kung fu movie or a manga or something out there where a character does this because this shooting posture looks weird and cool.

I can totally imagine a thing where a mechanized device nocks arrows for him automatically while he lines up shots.







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"Goemon Movie" , posted Fri 9 Sep 22:55post reply

Now Goemon is getting a movie. I like that there is so much demand for Lupin at the moment that we can have two continuities running at the same time.







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"Re(1):Goemon Movie" , posted Sat 10 Sep 02:39post reply

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Now Goemon is getting a movie. I like that there is so much demand for Lupin at the moment that we can have two continuities running at the same time.

Before clicking I thought it was a "Ganbare Goemon" movie and somehow the actual Goemon movie doesn't feel less surprising.







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"Re(1):Goemon Movie with Koike Takeshi" , posted Sat 10 Sep 13:14:post reply

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Now Goemon is getting a movie. I like that there is so much demand for Lupin at the moment that we can have two continuities running at the same time.

In good news for Nobi and all others with good visual taste, Koike Takeshi of Redline and Jigen Daisuke's Gravestone is directing---not that it wasn't already clear from the marvelous art. His Jigen film got at least 66% of the comic formula right---hard-boiled and sexy, but without the mayhem---so it'll be interesting to see how he can improve here. Oddly enough, I'm still waiting for a Lupin film from him that captures the perfect tone and energy of the pachinko Lupin he directed!





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"Anime and Video Game Neckties?" , posted Mon 12 Sep 23:31post reply

Anyone recommend a good website or shop to buy anime or video game neckties? Not just your one off paste a character on a plain solid color tie. Ones that have some kind of a design that actually showed some work was put in. Thanks.





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"Re(1):Anime and Video Game Neckties?" , posted Mon 19 Sep 22:32post reply

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Anyone recommend a good website or shop to buy anime or video game neckties? Not just your one off paste a character on a plain solid color tie. Ones that have some kind of a design that actually showed some work was put in. Thanks.



Such a unique request.

I have never bought from this store, but found it when searching for "Donkey Kong necktie" since that was the first thing to pop into my head

Link Here

Looks like the seller holds a 5 Star rating with 899 reviews, which is rather impressive. But I cannot personally attest to the quality of the product.

They appear to sell quite a few video game, comic and other pop culture inspired ties for you to browse.





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"Re(2):Anime and Video Game Neckties?" , posted Wed 21 Sep 06:54:post reply

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Anyone recommend a good website or shop to buy anime or video game neckties? Not just your one off paste a character on a plain solid color tie. Ones that have some kind of a design that actually showed some work was put in. Thanks.


Such a unique request.

I have never bought from this store, but found it when searching for "Donkey Kong necktie" since that was the first thing to pop into my head

Link Here

Looks like the seller holds a 5 Star rating with 899 reviews, which is rather impressive. But I cannot personally attest to the quality of the product.

They appear to sell quite a few video game, comic and other pop culture inspired ties for you to browse.


Not sure what happen to my original message, but thanks for the info GekiGanger. I will take a look at the items the store sells.





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"Re(1):Anime and Video Game Neckties?" , posted Thu 22 Sep 00:31post reply

I know it won't answer your question, but I still find it a nice piece of trivia: there are two Sakura Taisen themed ties. They both were included in the limited edition of the Sakura-themed PC applications collection. By the way, I'm getting goosebumps by reading about Sakura Taisen's development history. What a fascinating piece of game creation goodness.





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"shmupulations continues to enlighten" , posted Thu 22 Sep 10:29:post reply

I've been a monetary supporter of shmupulations.com for some time now, but a thing just popped up in my email from Patreon: "shmuplations.com just became a patron of Sam Harris".

I had no idea who that was, so I googled it, and it seems like he's a controversial figure who espouses a number of controversial views. That's not particularly worrisome to me. But what is interesting to me is that we live in a time in which Patreon allows all manner of scholars and quacks to have a very public channel for the distribution of their content and the collection of donations, and that this is something that is actively promoted between users of the service. So unless a person goes and makes a second account for donations, it's totally possible for a person to publicly show who they are patrons of, and the system will advertise that to patrons of that person.

The fact that the shmupulations guy is a patron of Sam Harris suggests that he is supportive of this person's content. Without ever making any other public messaging about "I totally support these political views", Patreon has announced, albeit implicitly, that he does. I have to wonder if falling outs have happened over all this: people saying "I can no longer support so-and-so because he supports so-and-so, and that so-and-so is repugnant to me" and so on. Patreon is not about being a private donor, but about being as public of one as it can possibly make you.

I generally am pretty OK with the notion of separating an author/artist from their work. It's worth considering what elements of the person and their life is expressed in their work, but even if some are pretty crazy, their work can speak for itself. But now we have something that allows us to trace in Kevin Bacon fashion just how many degrees our donations are from other creators utilizing the platform. This sounds like a conspiracy theorist's paradise.





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"Re(1):shmupulations continues to enlighten" , posted Thu 22 Sep 10:57post reply

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I generally am pretty OK with the notion of separating an author/artist from their work. It's worth considering what elements of the person and their life is expressed in their work, but even if some are pretty crazy, their work can speak for itself.
We can safely assume that after enough space shooters have you destroy all life/gods in the universe, this author would be a good match! Pro or con, seperating the author is such an interesting notion, both in terms of taking down auteur theory and having a work gain its meaning from the viewer (as was recently mentioned here (I love that it was)), or in terms of works we enjoy despite the author's leanings, be it Wagner or, in our realm, Sugiyama Kouichi and his cheerful Dragon Quest music that clashes so violently with his ugly fascist-revisionist views.





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"Re(1):shmupulations continues to enlighten" , posted Thu 22 Sep 18:45post reply

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I've been a monetary supporter of shmupulations.com for some time now, but a thing just popped up in my email from Patreon: "shmuplations.com just became a patron of Sam Harris".

I had no idea who that was, so I googled it, and it seems like he's a controversial figure who espouses a number of controversial views. That's not particularly worrisome to me. But what is interesting to me is that we live in a time in which Patreon allows all manner of scholars and quacks to have a very public channel for the distribution of their content and the collection of donations, and that this is something that is actively promoted between users of the service. So unless a person goes and makes a second account for donations, it's totally possible for a person to publicly show who they are patrons of, and the system will advertise that to patrons of that person.

The fact that the shmupulations guy is a patron of Sam Harris suggests that he is supportive of this person's content. Without ever making any other public messaging about "I totally support these political views", Patreon has announced, albeit implicitly, that he does. I have to wonder if falling outs have happened over all this: people saying "I can no longer support so-and-so because he supports so-and-so, and that so-and-so is repugnant to me" and so on. Patreon is not about being a private donor, but about being as public of one as it can possibly make you.



I support shmuplations too and got that message - it was a bit odd, since I don't recall getting something similar for others I support in that site. Anyway, if the guy's that problematic, I can just end my support once shmuplations is done translating all the SNK content in its backlog, since I'm donating just enough to vote for that every month.

In lighter news, apparently a new episode of Hi sCoool! SeHa Girls on the way - no idea when, but the original series was great, its sheer existence felt miraculous, and I want more of it.





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"Re(2):shmupulations continues to enlighten" , posted Thu 22 Sep 22:55post reply

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Pro or con, seperating the author is such an interesting notion, both in terms of taking down auteur theory and having a work gain its meaning from the viewer.


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It is indeed an interesting notion. Proust once had a conversation with his mom (because of course it had to be with his mom, and much tea and madeleines are involved) about it, and a study called the "Contre Sainte-Beuve" came out of it. Sainte-Beuve was biggest literary critic of the previous era, and he liked praising authors who had a rightful life over those who had a few vices. By Proust's time, the first authors had already fallen out of fashion, while many of the others were, and still are, amongst of the greatest writers in French language. This ties into a series of themes about art, vice, and the purity of art over social convention and appearances, and one thing led to another until Proust died while writing a 3500 pages-long marvel over 20 years.

One of the issues here is of course that following the accepted social beliefs of the time is no replacement for talent, and being talented in innovative ways requires to stray away from the consensus, sometimes in more ways than simply artistic ones.
The other is that the critic's rule of thumb follows the morals of his time, which was already starting to go out of fashion by Proust's time and are laughable in ours. In other words, the art that came out of a strict adherence to a current era's motto will be forgotten as soon as society moves on. There is also some fine-tuning to do by differentiating social issues (sexism, for example) and politics (syndicalism if you're writing in the XIXth century).
It's much easier when the author's problematic views appear in his or her production: the answer is to be found in the direct dialogue between the piece of art and your own appreciation. It is possible to like a piece of art that describes the darkest, vilest depth of human psyche if the author, beyond his own vices, is gifted with enough talent to present them in a thought-provoking way.

In cases like Sugiyama, or Woody Allen, where the private views or actions of the artist remain separate from his creations, those creations of the author are not talking for him: it's the journalists, it's the internet, with translation, quotes taken out of context...
In such cases, I do not think the art can shield an author from him being a jerk. If the art is not part of the discourse, then it cannot be used to shield the artist from criticism; what we are left with is yet another random celebrity facing the public view, gossips and outrage. The debate has left the field of art and enters the field of consumerism: do I want my money to go to this guy? Do you still cheer for your favourite sportsman if you know he beats his wife and kids, because you need to separate private life from his performance? It's not different from boycotting the products from a country because of its politic: yes, these grapefruits look amazingly tasty, but I am not comfortable supporting this regime.

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In the case of shmuplations, I only know what has been said here, but Loona's point of view seems reasonable: being a client is so much easier than being a patron.
Ultimately, you don't care about the political views of the cashier when you buy your groceries, you only want to receive the service you paid for and forget about it.







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"Jet Set Radio Jail" , posted Fri 23 Sep 00:18post reply

In other news, a group of American designers get themselves arrested for spraypainting storefronts in Shibuya because they "heard Shibuya was a place where it was okay to spray paint."

While I admire their attempt to reenact Jet Set Radio Future, they forgot that you need to have rocket-powered roller blades to outrun the cops.





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"Re(3):shmupulations continues to enlighten" , posted Fri 23 Sep 15:35post reply

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Pro or con, seperating the author is such an interesting notion, both in terms of taking down auteur theory and having a work gain its meaning from the viewer.

[Off-topic warning]
It is indeed an interesting notion. Proust once had a conversation with his mom (because of course it had to be with his mom, and much tea and madeleines are involved) about it, and a study called the "Contre Sainte-Beuve" came out of it. Sainte-Beuve was biggest literary critic of the previous era, and he liked praising authors who had a rightful life over those who had a few vices. By Proust's time, the first authors had already fallen out of fashion, while many of the others were, and still are, amongst of the greatest writers in French language. This ties into a series of themes about art, vice, and the purity of art over social convention and appearances, and one thing led to another until Proust died while writing a 3500 pages-long marvel over 20 years.

One of the issues here is of course that following the accepted social beliefs of the time is no replacement for talent, and being talented in innovative ways requires to stray away from the consensus, sometimes in more ways than simply artistic ones.
The other is that the critic's rule of thumb follows the morals of his time, which was already starting to go out of fashion by Proust's time and are laughable in ours. In other words, the art that

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Well said Iggy! A person's talent is not a shield that protects them from the consequences of being a jerk. But being a jerk/Monster does not necessarily invalidate the power of someone's work.

I think you miss out on a lot in life if you see each relationship as an all or nothing proposition. If we only focus on the ideological differences we have with others, we miss opportunities to find common ground and possibly move forward together.

Of course everyone has lines that they can't abide other people crossing too. And Spoon was specifically talking about financially supporting someone vs just exchanging ideas. I'm just talking in a circle now.

Anyway, thanks for your insight there Iggy.

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LOL thanks for that. The secondary punchline to that story is just how terrible their graffiti was, yet they thought it would be met as some kind of gift to the world.






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"Re(4):shmupulations continues to enlighten" , posted Fri 23 Sep 19:40post reply

And just like that, Oculus Rift's Palmer Luckey gives us an immediate case study.







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"Re(5):Iggy continues to enlighten" , posted Sat 24 Sep 00:48:post reply

The inverse argument to the "auteur is dead" approach is that all art is inherently political, and maybe even entertainment too (by its apolitical and establishment-oriented status quo approach). So while we can divorce a work from the author, either to prioritize what it means to us or based on a dislike for the author, at least with regards to narrative-based art it's hard for me to imagine something meaningful and positive coming from a bad person. Sugiyama is a pathetic fascist who produces marvelous music, but I find it very hard to imagine that DQ creator Horii has an ugly philosophy based on the stories he creates. Maybe this is why it's easier to listen to Wagner than it is to watch a technically impressive but morally backward masterpiece like Birth of a Nation.
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And just like that, Oculus Rift's Palmer Luckey gives us an immediate case study.

Astounding timing! Fortunately, I don't care about VR and think the Rift kind of sucks.

Does technology have the same issues as the art we're discussing? Frankfurt School media theorists like Adorno and Benjamin, and later thinkers like Enzensberger, and others tell us plenty about how the revolutionary progressive capacity of new media technology is soon co-opted by existing power and business structures, whether it was radio, television, and...maybe VR? What if the technology was meant to be purely for entertainment, like VR, without any public angle like broadcasting technology? Is VR, as pioneered by Rift and that racist, inherently fascist? These and more questions to follow as I become increasingly nostalgic for university.





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"Re(5):shmupulations continues to enlighten" , posted Sat 24 Sep 00:50post reply

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Ah, well that's quite gross.

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Of course everyone has lines that they can't abide other people crossing too. And Spoon was specifically talking about financially supporting someone vs just exchanging ideas. I'm just talking in a circle now.


There's the matter of a person's ethereal ideology (can be bad), someone's views regarding horrible events in history (can be really bad and probably depends on the views and the event in question), and some's current day actual activism in support of repugnant ideals or people (fucking horrendous). The problem with Palmer Luckey and Notch is that they've got money enough to actively support said reprehensible behavior, or in Notch's case they have a reputation of having made a game that millions of people play daily, and thus to some extent they've got the ear of those people.

In short: Iggy, I agree fully, and I've a bit sad that Luckey has sold Occulus since I would have preferred to not buy an Occulus because of his douchebag behavior instead of not buying it because I don't give a shit about Occulus (as is the case now).

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"Re(6):mmcafe continues to enlighten" , posted Sat 24 Sep 03:12:post reply

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but I find it very hard to imagine that DQ creator Horii has an ugly philosophy based on the stories he creates.


In the world of sci-fi (the other "SF"!), Orson Scott Card has been a controversial person for over a decade and a half, although Ender's Game is one of the most secular books I've ever read. The main character even creates his own mainstream godless ritual based entirely around historical recounting of the life of somebody that died (the "Speaker for the Dead"). For a person that is devout and espouses his devotion, it makes for a really interesting contrast, and the seeming clash between the interviewer's interpretation of his work and Card's own perspectives on it 15 years later from the perspective of the author then and the author now make for a crazy sense of author as removed from author's work.

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"Re(6):Iggy continues to enlighten" , posted Sat 24 Sep 18:43post reply

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So while we can divorce a work from the author, either to prioritize what it means to us or based on a dislike for the author, at least with regards to narrative-based art it's hard for me to imagine something meaningful and positive coming from a bad person.
Ingmar Bergman. Treated horribly almost all the women he had met (and the children he had with them), made the most amazing movies about women's private lifes and struggles, couple, and being a child.
Miyazaki Hayao is not far behind.

Of course, they also happen to be some of the best artists of the XXth century. I wouldn't extend this kind of mercy to Woody Allen or Polansky.







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"Re(7):Iggy continues to enlighten" , posted Sun 25 Sep 01:28post reply

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Ingmar Bergman. Treated horribly almost all the women he had met (and the children he had with them), made the most amazing movies about women's private lifes and struggles, couple, and being a child.
Miyazaki Hayao is not far behind.

Of course, they also happen to be some of the best artists of the XXth century. I wouldn't extend this kind of mercy to Woody Allen or Polansky.


The decision to overlook the sins of an artist ultimately come down to individual choice. The reasoning behind those choices are often contradictory and irrational but art and art appreciation aren't about checking off boxes on a form.

An aside: Palmer Luckey is -like American McGee- one of those people who has a ridiculously phony sounding name. Is Charles Dickens naming these people?







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"Re(8):Iggy continues to enlighten" , posted Sun 25 Sep 05:33post reply

I do think that at the moment, emotions are running high in North America just because the presidential election is such a charged one. The candidates are polarizing, the rhetoric is venomous, and there is a very real feeling that whoever is elected will enact policies that could threaten people in very personal ways. We've got a pervasive sentiment that because Candidate A wants to do XYZ to ABC, and I am a part of ABC (whether it's gun owners, immigrants, refugees, foreign nations, African Americans, or what have you) or I refuse to allow XYZ to happen, supporting Candidate A is a threat to who I am or is support for an action that I do not want to have happen.

This is as opposed to the sentiment of Person A is a warcrimes denier / general racist / particular asshole. Person A being a jerk that produces things you can take or leave isn't the same as Person A being in a position of power over you or your nation or other nations.

So there's absolutely politics at work in the rationale which is different from the norm when it comes to people's perception of these things. I might think that Sugiyama's thoughts on certain topics are repugnant, but in the end his thoughts on those matters don't have much influence on the world or on myself. On the other hand, if Sugiyama were to be passionately devoting all of his financial resources to supporting the re-election of Stephen Harper during the last Canadian election, I would probably have not supported any of his work for the duration of that campaign because it would be indirectly aiding said campaign. That wouldn't stop me from sitting down for coffee with him for a discussion about Dragon Quest or other things, though.