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"SFV Thread Part 9: Season V Edition" , posted Sat 1 Aug 14:41post reply

AIIIIIIIN'T THERE SOMEBODY WHO CAN STOP THIS FIGHTING MACHINE?!

Yes, despite Capcom management's best sabotage efforts, Street Figher V has improbably survived all the way to its fifth season, and evolved from a sad little mini-game into something that's not only less ugly than SFIV and less boring than SFIII, but occasionally almost as much fun as SSFIIX and Zero 2-3 on a good day!

Capcom's going to need to haul some ass if they're serious about releasing five characters in five months, but apparently pro wrestler Kenny Omega aka Beefcake City Mayor Cody is going to announce it all on August 5?! Will Ono escape Tsujimoto Jr.'s cruel prison and bring us the sensible roster we dream of, with Sodom, Rolento, Haggar, Hakan, and Maki? Or are we doomed to the thrilling return of Dan, Sean, Remy, El Fuerte, and Decapre? See you at the races.


Exciting Resources:

MMCafe Dojo: Come join the quad-continent Cafe dojo via CFN or be destroyed by Shadowloo!

Patch Notes: Season 5 now printing

Costume Contest Voting August 17: How did they only just figure out to continue the 1990s Rockman fan design contest tradition four years in and after 10000 fan mods?

Mods and Mods: Winners don't do drugs, but they do do PC mods

Legend of Two P and Legend of Two P Champion Edition


Past Threads:

SF lore thread
SFV thread 8
SFV thread 7
SFV thread 6
SFV thread 5
SFV thread 4
SFV thread 3
SFV thread 2
SFV thread 1





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"Re(1):SFV Thread Part 9: Season V Edition" , posted Sat 1 Aug 22:35post reply

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AIIIIIIIN'T THERE SOMEBODY WHO CAN STOP THIS FIGHTING MACHINE?!

Yes, despite Capcom management's best sabotage efforts, Street Figher V has improbably survived all the way to its fifth season, and evolved from a sad little mini-game into something that's not only less ugly than SFIV and less boring than SFIII, but occasionally almost as much fun as SSFIIX and Zero 2-3 on a good day!

Capcom's going to need to haul some ass if they're serious about releasing five characters in five months, but apparently pro wrestler Kenny Omega aka Beefcake City Mayor Cody is going to announce it all on August 5?! Will Ono escape Tsujimoto Jr.'s cruel prison and bring us the sensible roster we dream of, with Sodom, Rolento, Haggar, Hakan, and Maki? Or are we doomed to the thrilling return of Dan, Sean, Remy, El Fuerte, and Decapre? See you at the races.


Exciting Resources:

MMCafe Dojo: Come join the quad-continent Cafe dojo via CFN or be destroyed by Shadowloo!

Patch Notes: Season 5 now printing

Costume Contest Voting August 17: How did they only just figure out to continue the 1990

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Are they really going to announce all five newcomers on the same day? I mean, yeah, they did that in Season 3, but it seems to be wiser to announce them one by one, to keep the hype going.

Anyway, apparently there is a set of SFV tarot cards which included G before he was officially announced, and it also brings Rose, Oro, C.Viper, Elena and Rolento. Those would be quite good choices, although personally I would like to see Haggar finally added in a SF game (and Dan could be nice if Capcom toned his goofiness down a little bit and made him a viable fighter - there are some old SF games where he is actually not bad).





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"Re(2):SFV Thread Part 9: Season V Edition" , posted Sat 1 Aug 23:11post reply

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Rose, Oro, C.Viper, Elena and Rolento. Those would be quite good choices

I don't think the world is ready for Oro's nuts in 3D.

Meanwhile, if Elena is in, maybe the global political climate will actually pressure Capcom to make a competent redesign for an orange-skinned, blue-eyed, white-haired "Kenyan" who does a Brazilian martial art. Will the superb team that redesigned Sakura and Cody win out, or will it be the Banana Ken/Lion King Gouki/Franken Nash faction?!

I do like to think that after Alex (who?) became playable after appearing in the City in Chaos stage, Sodom and Rolento are now also required to become playable after appearing in the Ring of Justice stage. Then again, he was in there, too: maybe it will be Damnd???





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"Re(3):SFV Thread Part 9: Season V Edition" , posted Sun 2 Aug 01:53post reply

There have been rumors of Rose, Makoto, Oro, Fei Long and Maki but I believe that about as far as I can spit.

But in more concrete news, SF5 is getting a timed demo where all 40 characters are going to be playable. If you've been too cheap to buy anybody outside the base roster now is your chance to see what the rest of the world already knows.







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"LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition" , posted Mon 3 Aug 11:47post reply

It's season 5, time for:

MMCAFE LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition!

Backstory: while typically the shadowy figure Professor H. Moriarty had been the organizing point for global fighting tournaments, the mysterious host has vanished, and certainly not because he hasn't finished FFVIIr yet which is taking up all his hard drive space. In the finest genre traditions, fighters from around the world are gathering to track down his whereabouts, primarily by beating each other up.

How do this weekend or maybe next look for everyone? If it's just the Americas and Asia, I think the evening/morning timing works, but if we've got European fighters, we can flip it so they can join too. What's good for everyone? Here's some ideas:

August 7, 9:00pm+ EST / August 7, 8:00pm+ CST / August 7, 6:00pm+ PST / August 8, 10:00am+ Japan Time
August 8, 9:00pm+ EST / August 8, 8:00pm+ CST / August 8, 6:00pm+ PST / August 9, 10:00am+ Japan Time

Maybe the first new character will even by out then so we can all go to Gill's weird new stage and curse at...Oro?!





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"Re(1):LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition" , posted Mon 3 Aug 19:17post reply

10:00 AM Japan time? Fine with me.





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"Re(1):LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition" , posted Mon 3 Aug 23:44post reply

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It's season 5, time for:

MMCAFE LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition!

Backstory: while typically the shadowy figure Professor H. Moriarty had been the organizing point for global fighting tournaments, the mysterious host has vanished, and certainly not because he hasn't finished FFVIIr yet which is taking up all his hard drive space



I actually haven't finished FFVIIr yet!
I'm still around 5 hours into the game-- if this were Spyhunter it's like I'm suffering from an oil slip! I need to get through it, Hah hah...
Have fun with SFV, gentilemen!





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"Re(2):LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition" , posted Tue 4 Aug 14:00post reply

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I actually haven't finished FFVIIr yet!
I'm still around 5 hours into the game-- if this were Spyhunter it's like I'm suffering from an oil slip! I need to get through it, Hah hah...
Have fun with SFV, gentilemen!

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"Re(3):LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition" , posted Tue 4 Aug 17:56post reply

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I actually haven't finished FFVIIr yet!
I'm still around 5 hours into the game-- if this were Spyhunter it's like I'm suffering from an oil slip! I need to get through it, Hah hah...
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"Re(2):LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition" , posted Tue 4 Aug 23:47post reply

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10:00 AM Japan time? Fine with me.

Okay! For now, August 7 (F) 9:00pm EDT / August 8 (Sa) 10:00am JST, unless other challengers need different times. Anyone else, insert your credit?

If not, it’s going to be Rugal mopping the floor with me for a hilarious one point five straight hours. It’s not that I’m saying that MMC’s top tier player is unstoppable using Dictator, a top tier character, I’m merely saying that...MMC’s top tier player is unstoppable using Dictator, a top tier character.

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"Re(3):LAGFEST: Madman Is Missing edition" , posted Wed 5 Aug 02:27post reply

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10:00 AM Japan time? Fine with me.
Okay! For now, August 7 (F) 9:00pm EDT / August 8 (Sa) 10:00am JST, unless other challengers need different times. Anyone else, insert your credit?

If not, it’s going to be Rugal mopping the floor with me for a hilarious one point five straight hours. It’s not that I’m saying that MMC’s top tier player is unstoppable using Dictator, a top tier character, I’m merely saying that...MMC’s top tier player is unstoppable using Dictator, a top tier character.

It’s actually a lot of fun!



I might show up, but I can't promise anything. Currently I have more than one job and a number of dental visits to make up for, all stemming from the fun situation that's been ongoing where necessary services are shut down FOR SOME REASON.

My last SFV quest ended with me unlocking every single pic in the arcade gallery, which made me realize how much I hate Shin Gouki, especially when he is involved in the concept of climbing a time-consuming ladder of opponents just to get ONE chance to beat a stupid OP mind-reading AI with a character I haven't optimized, for a piece of weird fanart. But then after several days struggling with this, the game just handed them to me and said I didn't need to do it. If it was going to do that all along then how about doing it sooner?!

I'm looking forward to new characters, but I've given up on hoping for new stage transitions. I once dreamt that Kanzuki beach had one added where Gouki in his scuba gear was knocked onto a stray inner tube that floated gently out to sea where he could be lost and forgotten.







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"Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 02:26post reply

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"Re(1):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 02:33post reply

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Akira? Unexpected choice... but I like it!

Oro and Rose are nice, and Dan was to be expected. Now, who could the 45th street fighter be? C.Viper? Haggar? Well, whoever it is, we won't see them for a full year, so...





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"Re(2):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 02:56post reply

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Akira? Unexpected choice... but I like it!

Oro and Rose are nice, and Dan was to be expected. Now, who could the 45th street fighter be? C.Viper? Haggar? Well, whoever it is, we won't see them for a full year, so...



For a second when I read the new characters, I thought of Batsu now Akira lol. Doesn't Anita have the same moves as Skullmania?





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"Re(3):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 04:21post reply

Aghh it's Dan! We'd gotten so close, surviving four straight years without him. At least it's not...Sean!? Bonus that we were spared Elena and Fei Long, but I'm still trying to figure out who thinks Dan is "funny" or "cool" after the SNK joke was already dead and unfunny literally 25 years ago. At least we still have four+ glorious months till he shows up.

I'm importing Iggy's post from the other thread:
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As for Akira, she's the best choice not named Kyôko! She even balances Dan being there!
The timeframe, though... all these leakers are basically dead, no one else was planned after Seth for sure. Ono getting the boot and Covid sure messed things up.
what if it's... King Kobra's return? As a tie-in with SF6?
With second-stringers from Zero like Birdie and Karin somehow taking center stage, we can only hope that Justice Gakuen will one day take over the SFVI roster and purge all the crappy SFIII story elements (and ideally, characters) forever. King Kobra would be the hottest addition since Tiger Jackson to Tekken 3.
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For a second when I read the new characters, I thought of Batsu now Akira lol. Doesn't Anita have the same moves as Skullmania?
I assume you mean Akira? And the reason you're thinking of our erstwhile master Skullomania is that Akira was initially in a skull-helmeted biker until she takes it off to reveal she's searching for her missing brother Daigo. It was Samus Aran but with less underwear, but that was Hinata's job anyway.

ANYWAY you can all join the lagfest---I'm proof you don't need to be particularly good to be there! Just let us know. Rugal: I'll host and send the invites.





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"Re(4):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 07:13post reply

This is the thread we are going to use? Bah, fine.

Anyway, a PlayStation Blog post has more about the characters. An extended video shows that Dan can, in fact, cancel moves with his taunts. Now that he has Break moves Dan has moved on from AoF and is firmly in the Garou series. Hopefully his critical art is a parody of super deadly ninja bees.

More importantly, the blog notes that Oro will no longer have one arm behind his back but will now challenge himself by holding onto a turtle! Will the turtle have DLC costumes? Can I buy the DLC turtle costumes right now?







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"Re(5):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 08:01:post reply

I guess the thread with the aptly thread title beats the other? When have we become so predictabowl.
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More importantly, the blog notes that Oro will no longer have one arm behind his back but will now challenge himself by holding onto a turtle! Will the turtle have DLC costumes? Can I buy the DLC turtle costumes right now?


This is how you make money Capcom! Hire this man!
And also make cute costumes for the turtle. I'll buy all of them
Except the one that will turn the turtle into a cat. Don't even think about it Capcom.

Watching the video, I think that might be Dan's best rendition since SvC Chaos.
Which is... definitely something! Maybe not exactly something positive, but Dan players can't be choosers.

With how some previous characters have had their original look reinvented (if only to sell their previous look as "nostalgia costume", I'm surprised none of those is very different from their original look. I suppose the decision to make them REALLY was last minute, and there was no time to waste in re-designing the wheel?





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"Re(6):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 08:46post reply

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With how some previous characters have had their original look reinvented (if only to sell their previous look as "nostalgia costume", I'm surprised none of those is very different from their original look. I suppose the decision to make them REALLY was last minute, and there was no time to waste in re-designing the wheel?



Rose had a new look in Menat's arcade mode ending

Link Here

We see that the Dan gameplay footage shows him in his SFIV costume.

Who did that promo art? It doesn't look like the style Bengus has been using recently.

I have to say that Dan's animations are looking pretty good so far (his face looks like a WIP, so I can see why they recorded footage off screen). Although he is a joke character he has very grounded kicks, his throws are very technical, even his neutral stance looks like your typical MMA stand up fighter.

For Akira, from what I recall from Rival Schools she kind of fills the Yun/Yang gameplay niche, right? It would be cool if she had an assist V-Skill with Daigo like Mika has with Nadeshiko.

A whole year is gonna be a long wait. I think I will grind survival mode during the free trial on my tertiary PSN account so I can buy the characters with FM as they come out.







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"Re(4):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 09:07post reply

I'm extremely glad we have a rival schools character, and that the character is not a fireball/DP character!

Akira is definitely one of the coolest characters from the RS series. I don't know how common the name "Daigo" is in Japan, but given that the most well-known SF player is also a Daigo, it would've been amusing if her brother was included for that reason alone. I am also glad to see that the promotional art image of her manages to convey her so well!

Oro with a turtle is a great idea, I guess somebody at Capcom can still come up with solid takes on existing characters that allow for new avenues of amusement. Old man with turtle Okina in Last Blade still gives me nightmares, though!







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"Re(5):LAGFEST, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 11:00:post reply

Remember: Season 5 Lagfest, August 7 (F) 9:00pm EDT / August 8 (Sa) 10:00am JST
Come on by and we will send a lobby invite!
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This is the thread we are going to use? Bah, fine.
I guess the thread with the aptly thread title beats the other? When have we become so predictabowl.
we have to somehow preserve SFV's honor by feeding its season 5 thread enough to survive for a whole year ok
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For Akira, from what I recall from Rival Schools she kind of fills the Yun/Yang gameplay niche, right? It would be cool if she had an assist V-Skill with Daigo like Mika has with Nadeshiko.
Even as one of the world's biggest Justice Gakuen fans, I'll freely admit that everyone in the game is basically Ryu with quarter-circle moves, but I suppose Akira can be Yun/Yang since she doesn't have a projectile? Anyway, I just noticed in the Famitsu article but not the English Playstation blog a reference to "recreating a certain something you'll be familiar with that's unique to Justice Gakuen matches," meaning the tag-team move, so god Skullomania willing, we'll have Daigo, "the man among men," in there!
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Dan can, in fact, cancel moves with his taunts
Speaking of joke characters, what if...what if Dan accidentally ends up being better than Ryu, Kage, AND Claw?!
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I don't know how common the name "Daigo" is in Japan, but given that the most well-known SF player is also a Daigo, it would've been amusing if her brother was included for that reason alone.
Daigo is a moderately common name, but Akira's brother uses badass kanji that mean "the epitome," right in line with a banchou character who says lines with a straight face like "I'll show you the path a man must tread!" Umehara Daigo's kanji are tragically boring. He should probably change how he writes his name if he wants to be a true Street Fighter.





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"Re(5):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 14:55post reply

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More importantly, the blog notes that Oro will no longer have one arm behind his back but will now challenge himself by holding onto a turtle! Will the turtle have DLC costumes? Can I buy the DLC turtle costumes right now?



It's nice to see Oro back, and that's a cute twist on his character. I imagine it's much harder to constantly hide his arm in a fully 3D game :)







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"Re(6):LAGFEST, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 17:35post reply

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meaning the tag-team move, so god Skullomania willing, we'll have Daigo, "the man among men," in there!

Imagine if on top of Oro, next summer we have the first modern appearances of Gan and Edge.
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"Re(7):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 21:10post reply

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I have to say that Dan's animations are looking pretty good so far (his face looks like a WIP, so I can see why they recorded footage off screen). Although he is a joke character he has very grounded kicks, his throws are very technical, even his neutral stance looks like your typical MMA stand up fighter.



That reminds me, I always thought Dan was supposed to be the ultimate loser, but I was reading some trivia about him last month and learned that while he is goofy and looks ridiculous, he's actually considered a competent fighter in the SF world (or at least he used to be, before his joke factor was turned up to eleven), and the only reason why he's not at Ryu's and Ken's levels is because of his lack of discipline.

After Sakura got some nice character progression in SFV, it would be nice if the same happened with Dan. Sure, he should still be goofy and all, but maybe he could realize in his story that he should take his fights more seriously - and in turn, some fighters could acknowledge he isn't the worst opponent they ever had.





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"Re(8):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Thu 6 Aug 23:36post reply

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After Sakura got some nice character progression in SFV, it would be nice if the same happened with Dan. Sure, he should still be goofy and all, but maybe he could realize in his story that he should take his fights more seriously - and in turn, some fighters could acknowledge he isn't the worst opponent they ever had.

I would accept it if Dan ends up fighting Kage and beating him.
If Dan becomes competent and Kage takes his role as the ultimate loser, then their inclusion in SF5 becomes warranted.







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"Re(9):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Fri 7 Aug 01:31post reply

Was Nishimura the artist for New Generation/2nd Impact? The new art echoes that style. Hope it carries over into the story cutscenes as well.







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"Re(9):LAGFEST, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Fri 7 Aug 11:04post reply

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I would accept it if Dan ends up fighting Kage and beating him. If Dan becomes competent and Kage takes his role as the ultimate loser, then their inclusion in SF5 becomes warranted.
Not only with this redeem 25 years of Dan, it would also fit nicely with the surprisingly cute and good-hearted writing for the individual story modes if Dan beats Kage and we learn that "hate is the ultimate loser!"

And on that note: everyone, don't be the ultimate loser! Join tomorrow's MMC LAGFEST!
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"Re(10):Dan, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Fri 7 Aug 21:29post reply

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Was Nishimura the artist for New Generation/2nd Impact? The new art echoes that style. Hope it carries over into the story cutscenes as well.



Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, she was in charge of the art in New Generation. She also did the artwork for the Capcom Groove versions of each fighter in Capcom vs SNK.





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"Re(10):LAGFEST, Oro, Rose, Akira announced" , posted Fri 7 Aug 21:30post reply

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And on that note: everyone, don't be the ultimate loser! Join tomorrow's MMC LAGFEST!
August 7 (F) 9:00pm EDT / August 8 (Sa) 10:00am JST



I'll do my best to make it since there's nothing I would enjoy more than playing a few rounds of Fall Guys SF5.







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"Madman Times: Laggy Edition - get yer copy" , posted Sat 8 Aug 14:25:post reply

Thanks for the fun matches, everyone! While it took the staff photographer a while to get the screenshots working on his new computer, the Madman Times has still managed to get to print. READ ALL ABOUT IT:

As usual, Rugal descended from the heavens to show us how it's done, with many of the usual types of tragicomic results. One of the most uplifting upsides to these pummelings is that they can finally give the poor, unloved (by Capcom) Fang his long-deserved place in the sun.

Certainly, contestants can look pretty shocked when they manage to survive. A heroic Warzard denizen attempted to take down MMC's toughest boss when he took the form of a very large man intruding in the MMC Dojo but the loss of the costume's lion head proved fatal. In the biggest upset of the night, it was hapless Ed, of all people, who managed to pull off a major victory.

In other news, while Sexy Seth is probably limited somewhat by his questionable source material, he/she/? does look better in a hat.

In a shocking twist, a mysterious BUTTERMONSTER named Juan appeared later, but the biggest surprise of the night was that AbiGAAAAIL and Chun Li got married! Then again, these unions don't always go as smoothly as originally planned.

And now, the weather: while there is always the possibility of relaxing at the pool or even the sento if Honda doesn't yell at you, in these hot summer days, monsters and men alike all mostly just want to head to the beach.





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Good games everyone! Sorry I had to check out early but it looks like the festivities went on just fine without me. We will have to get together again before Dan comes and changes the face of SF5 forever.







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"Re(2):Madman Times: Laggy Edition - get yer c" , posted Sun 9 Aug 14:38post reply

Sorry, I tried. Technically I almost made it because I was in around 9PM, but then I realized it was 9PM EDT which was 3 hours earlier, something that I had not properly absorbed. It didn't really matter since around that time I was stuck with work anyway, but had I known I might have taken a short break to check in.

Might as well comment on the new characters while I'm here.

Dan, wow. I actually did not expect that. I wonder if his story in SFV will be that he closed up his dojo to run a costume shop with his sister. What's really interesting to me about this inclusion is that traditionally, Dan has been purposefully undertuned with stubby normals and weak projectiles. But SFV is a game where everyone has stubby normals and weak projectiles, so maybe this could be his big chance?

Rose and Oro are a bit more expected, but it'll be nice seeing Oro again after all this time. When I think about it, he should be real easy to translate into the SFV system since two of his original Super Arts were like V-Triggers anyway. As for Rose, I'm not a fan of the purple raincoat in Menat's ending but I don't know if she's going to be using that design or not, given the artwork shown was just her regular outfit.

And Akira! When I asked for Akira on Twitter a couple of months ago I did not think I would get her this soon, but why look a gift horse in the mouth? They also mentioned that her stage would have a special gimmick, interesting...





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"Farewell, Ono-san" , posted Sun 9 Aug 21:20post reply

Yoshinori Ono to leave Capcom soon.





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"Re(1):Farewell, Ono-san" , posted Thu 13 Aug 09:01post reply

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Yoshinori Ono to leave Capcom soon.



Thanks Ono-san for not only bringing back Street Fighter over a decade ago, but also reviving the fighting game genre.

I know Ono has gotten some hate over the last couple of years, mostly concerning SFV, but you still gotta give him his props for the hard work he did for Capcom. Who knows, without his involvement, whether the SF series would have seen the light of day a lot later than when it did.





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"Re(3):Madman Times: Laggy Edition - get yer c" , posted Thu 13 Aug 09:07post reply

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And Akira! When I asked for Akira on Twitter a couple of months ago I did not think I would get her this soon, but why look a gift horse in the mouth? They also mentioned that her stage would have a special gimmick, interesting...



I presume the gimmick being that there will be cameos from most of the Rival Schools crew. I am already wondering if the stage will be the Seijyun (sp?) Girls Courtyard stage from the second Rival Schools? Only time will tell.

The wait for these characters is going to be torture. But I know they will be worth it. I'm so happy Rose is back again! She deserves her spot in this game. I'm also excited at the possibilities of Arika! Oro and Dan I'm meh about. Especially Dan, since I feel another more worthy character should have gotten his slot. Makes me wonder who the 5th character will be. Everyone is presuming it will be a male character, giving the number of costumes the character is getting.







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I presume the gimmick being that there will be cameos from most of the Rival Schools crew. I am already wondering if the stage will be the Seijyun (sp?) Girls Courtyard stage from the second Rival Schools? Only time will tell.

Now that I think about it, I'm not certain what a Rival Schools themed stage would look like in SF5. The stages in the Gakuen series were colorful enough and fit the game but they were, by and large, generic anime school settings. What is going to make the stage unique?







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I presume the gimmick being that there will be cameos from most of the Rival Schools crew. I am already wondering if the stage will be the Seijyun (sp?) Girls Courtyard stage from the second Rival Schools? Only time will tell.
Now that I think about it, I'm not certain what a Rival Schools themed stage would look like in SF5. The stages in the Gakuen series were colorful enough and fit the game but they were, by and large, generic anime school settings. What is going to make the stage unique?



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"Re(5):Madman Times: Laggy Edition - get yer c" , posted Fri 14 Aug 01:45:post reply

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Now that I think about it, I'm not certain what a Rival Schools themed stage would look like in SF5. The stages in the Gakuen series were colorful enough and fit the game but they were, by and large, generic anime school settings. What is going to make the stage unique?

Because the fight happens in a school, all the sleazy costumes are banned and the characters can only select appropriate outfits for children.
Also if you try to select Urien there the police swats your place and arrest you for having an exhibitionist trying to traumatise children.





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"Re(5):Madman Times: Laggy Edition - get yer c" , posted Fri 14 Aug 02:29post reply

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Now that I think about it, I'm not certain what a Rival Schools themed stage would look like in SF5.



A massive classroom the size of a soccer stadium.

Low polygon characters doing wacky three stooges animations like the ones ruining the four emperor stage

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"Madman Times: Costume Edition" , posted Tue 18 Aug 07:41post reply

The SF costume contest is open on Twitter. Which outfit will the Russian bots choose?







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"Re(1):Madman Times: Costume Edition" , posted Tue 18 Aug 11:56post reply

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The SF costume contest is open on Twitter. Which outfit will the Russian bots choose?

Zangief would never allow cheating! CYCLONE!

Some of these are pretty good! Again, they should have done this YEARS ago, as the company who pioneered the create-a-boss contest for Rockman. It's cute to see nice comments from supporters interacting with the designer. It's almost as if the non-MMC internet used to be capable of human interactions...as if there had been at one point been "fanpages" and "webrings," or something? Must've been a dream...

Speaking of which Sakura's taiko drummer outfit is pretty cute, even if the Rockman addition seems unneccessary. Matsuri Mika is a close rival for the festival scene since you get Nadeshiko too.

Kabuki Honda would be hot hot hot

Nice try, pirate (??) Juri, but you're still not getting me to use you. Apparently it's Vega's hat and Seth's cloak? But I'll ignore that.

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"Re(2):Madman Times: Costume Edition" , posted Wed 19 Aug 03:16post reply

While a number of these outfits are interesting I don't know how well they would work in-game. The art on Alex's outfit looks slick but during a match Alex's lumpy form and misplaced knees will make it awful. Similarly, I like that someone tried to do something fun with Guile but all of Guile's outfits should be as boring and unimaginative as he his. It's the law.

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Nice try, pirate (??) Juri, but you're still not getting me to use you. Apparently it's Vega's hat and Seth's cloak? But I'll ignore that.


Sash Juri and purple coat Juri are an interesting contrast. In the end I like sash Juri better because I would like to see how her moves such as pinwheel would look with the accent of that fabric. It will probably be a clippy mess but it will undoubtedly still look better than that long, obscuring coat. That, and purple coat Juri's shoes don't go with the rest of the outfit so that junk should go straight in the trash.







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"Re(3):Madman Times: Costume Edition" , posted Wed 19 Aug 03:57post reply

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purple coat Juri's shoes don't go with the rest of the outfit so that junk should go straight in the trash.

While the one downside to Champion Edition is that it made the entire SFV Fashion Show of costumes available to the unwashed masses rather than to just the MMC Lagfest Premier Collection of Fight-Money-wasters like us, I'm confident that we will retake our place at the vanguard of SFV fashion (judgment) for season 5!





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"Re(4):Juri Times: Costume Edition" , posted Sat 5 Sep 00:39post reply

As if it wasn't obvious, Juri is officially the best girl after having nabbed both first and second place in the Capcom costume contest. As the lagfest's resident Juri main I'm looking forward to trying out all the variations on these costumes when I go 0-2 during our matches.





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"Re(5):Madman Times: Laggy Edition - get yer c" , posted Mon 7 Sep 10:41post reply

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Now that I think about it, I'm not certain what a Rival Schools themed stage would look like in SF5. The stages in the Gakuen series were colorful enough and fit the game but they were, by and large, generic anime school settings. What is going to make the stage unique?



I bet there will be a rooftop stage and you can knock your opponent onto another rooftop or something. Or maybe the RS cameo characters will help out with an assist like the old lady in one of the stages in MK10.







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"SFEX 5" , posted Tue 15 Sep 02:49post reply

Ryu is getting a Kairi costume. I did not see that one coming.







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"Re(1):SFEX 5" , posted Thu 17 Sep 04:31post reply

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Ryu is getting a Kairi costume. I did not see that one coming.


Update: the Kairi costume is now available for a measly 500 fight money. He even comes with an alternative regular Ryu head so you can have Ryu with horrific scarring all over his body. Maybe you can pretend it's Ryu from the end of the Ryu: Final manga? That, or you could pretend that the Kairi head is Ryu after not being able to get a proper haircut for months due to the pandemic.

Also of note is that the skin under Kairi's arm bandages glows. Sadly, the costume doesn't have Kairi's gimmick where when he had full meter he would strike a messianic pose and beat people until they burst into flame. I always thought that was a cute little Easter egg but in order to see it again I would have to play FEXL and, well, the trick wasn't that good.







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"Re(2):S(F)EX 5" , posted Thu 17 Sep 05:40post reply

At last, something you can actually buy with the fight money from the nearly eliminated weekly challenges!

That's definitely an obscure choice and reminds me that we need more Warzard costumes. But, does it also mean that a Skullomania costume for Ryu is on the way!? It's canon, you know...





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"Re(3):S(F)EX 5" , posted Wed 23 Sep 00:56post reply

I don't know why somebody created a mod for AbiGoji but I'm glad it exists.





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"EX+Karin Capcom Design artbook Eng release" , posted Sat 17 Oct 10:09post reply

I got Hokuto for Karin and I am really impressed by it. She fits Karin like a a glove. It just sucks that the requirement to get colors 9 and 10 is to get wins with the character in Casual AND Ranked. For the last 4 years I have been playing Zangief Fighter V with maybe a little bit of Abigail on the side. My rank is too high to even stand a chance with people who have had 4 years of match up history against the likes of Ryu and Karin.

The English release of "How To Make Capcom Fighting Characters: Street Fighter Character Design" finally came out and Amazon just dropped it off. When I ordered it back in April I was only charged $33, price has gone up to $50, but it is an impressive book. I cracked it open to just skim so far, but is just stacked with great stuff.

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"How To Make Capcom Fighting Characters: Street Fighter Character Design" finally came out and Amazon just dropped it off. When I ordered it back in April I was only charged $33, price has gone up to $50, but it is an impressive book. I cracked it open to just skim so far, but is just stacked with great stuff.

I remember the Japanese release from some time ago but have forgotten what it looks like---I'd love to see some screenshots or hear more as you thumb through it!





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"Re(1):EX+Karin Capcom Design artbook Eng rele" , posted Mon 19 Oct 00:54post reply

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The English release of "How To Make Capcom Fighting Characters: Street Fighter Character Design" finally came out and Amazon just dropped it off. When I ordered it back in April I was only charged $33, price has gone up to $50, but it is an impressive book. I cracked it open to just skim so far, but is just stacked with great stuff.

Good to know! Everything from Amazon and the rest of the filthy, filthy outside world get quarantined when it comes into my place so I probably already have my copy but thought it was a box of toothpaste or something equally inane.







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"Re(2):EX+Karin Capcom Design artbook Eng rele" , posted Mon 26 Oct 03:37post reply

Double post!

I finally got my copy of the Capcom Design Book. My life is a bit hectic at the moment so I doubt I will be able to sit down and give it a cover to cover reading until later. However, even glancing through the pages I came across a few interesting tidbits:

The programmers think up their own weird logic to explain special moves. For example, someone decided that Ken's fierce DP is on fire because of the friction of his fist getting too close to the ground. His animation dips close to the ground in SF5 to make this idea work.

All this time it seems that Cammy was supposed to be wearing camo leggings so this is her first time appearing with bare legs. Really?

Speaking of redesigns, some changes were considered for Zangief but they wisely realized he is beautiful and perfect as-is. The only guidelines they had were to make certain he was SF2 style chiseled instead of SFA flabby.

Nash was originally going to be rebuilt using Twelve tech but having chunks of his body change shape looked ridiculous. I'll be interested in reading a history of SF5 several years from now when everyone can be more honest about their thoughts on character designs such as Nash and Necalli.

As of now the history of SF5 is still being written. Judging by this interview in Spin magazine the purge of Ono continues with no mention of his work as producer.







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"Re(3):EX+Karin Capcom Design artbook Eng rele" , posted Mon 26 Oct 10:53post reply

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Ono? Who's that? We have always been at war with Eurasia

While my impression of Tsujimoto Jr. as the guy who overthrew Ono is similar to my impression of crappy Koopa Jr. who overthrew the Koopa Kids, I wonder if some Street Fighter developers like these guys are glad to have the attention shared more now, whether or not The Management is keeping them quiet. I'm reminded of how people started implying that Inafune and Naka alone where what made the old Rockman and Sonic games good, when that really wasn't the case.

Anyway, thanks for the book observations! I've always liked to rationalize what's going on with certain Street Fighter special moves, too, or maybe fighting games in general---in my mind, the health bar can be like a probability gauge of someone getting seriously insured rather than the number of times they get hit, especially where weapons and not just fists are concerned.





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"Re(4):EX+Karin Capcom Design artbook Eng rele" , posted Thu 29 Oct 01:20post reply

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Anyway, thanks for the book observations! I've always liked to rationalize what's going on with certain Street Fighter special moves, too, or maybe fighting games in general---in my mind, the health bar can be like a probability gauge of someone getting seriously insured rather than the number of times they get hit, especially where weapons and not just fists are concerned.



That reminds me. I'm curious if anyone else had seen anything about the Bushido Blade-esque fighting game Hellish Quart?





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"Re(5):EX+Karin Capcom Design artbook Eng rele" , posted Thu 29 Oct 01:34post reply

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Anyway, thanks for the book observations! I've always liked to rationalize what's going on with certain Street Fighter special moves, too, or maybe fighting games in general---in my mind, the health bar can be like a probability gauge of someone getting seriously insured rather than the number of times they get hit, especially where weapons and not just fists are concerned.


That reminds me. I'm curious if anyone else had seen anything about the Bushido Blade-esque fighting game Hellish Quart?



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"Re(6):EX+Karin Capcom Design artbook Eng rele" , posted Thu 29 Oct 03:21post reply

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I did! Thank you Professor, looks like everything is sorted.





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"President Skullo talks about SF history" , posted Fri 11 Dec 00:56post reply

For those playing the home game, G now has an unlockable Skullomania costume.

Also, the Polygon articles featuring the oral history of SF are still going strong, with SF3 being the latest topic of discussion. There are some interesting anecdotes to be found in the article, such as often overlooked arcade sales side or the brutally honest Akiman ragging on SF3 as a whole. Still, when I read these articles I find I want more. For example, the Alpha/Zero series changes so dramatically those might as well be three seperate games; what was the thought process that went into the sequels? Perhaps these sort of ruminations will be covered in the ridiculously overproduced Kickstarter book that will collect this series of articles.







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"Re(1):President Skullo talks about SF history" , posted Fri 11 Dec 02:18post reply

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For those playing the home game, G now has an unlockable Skullomania costume.

Also, the Polygon articles featuring the oral history of SF are still going strong, with SF3 being the latest topic of discussion. There are some interesting anecdotes to be found in the article, such as often overlooked arcade sales side or the brutally honest Akiman ragging on SF3 as a whole. Still, when I read these articles I find I want more. For example, the Alpha/Zero series changes so dramatically those might as well be three seperate games; what was the thought process that went into the sequels? Perhaps these sort of ruminations will be covered in the ridiculously overproduced Kickstarter book that will collect this series of articles.



I feel like SFA2 felt like a fairly natural progression from SFA1, but SFA3 felt like a "next generation" (but not NG ohoh) fighting game: it's mechanics were wild and new, its presentation and new visual effects were cutting-edge, its music was dance-oriented, etc. SFV draws a lot of inspiration from the SFA series, but it feels as though SFA3 was as far as they wanted to go in taking SF in becoming more Vs-series (Versus, not Vampire!) like.





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"Re(1):President Skullo talks about SF history" , posted Fri 11 Dec 03:03:post reply

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Also, the Polygon articles featuring the oral history of SF are still going strong, with SF3 being the latest topic of discussion. There are some interesting anecdotes to be found in the article, such as often overlooked arcade sales side or the brutally honest Akiman ragging on SF3 as a whole. Still, when I read these articles I find I want more. For example, the Alpha/Zero series changes so dramatically those might as well be three seperate games; what was the thought process that went into the sequels? Perhaps these sort of ruminations will be covered in the ridiculously overproduced Kickstarter book that will collect this series of articles.



Thanks for the link! In some ways it's still amazing how things haven't changed from back then-- at the time I recall thinking that despite the trend being 3D, the 2D sprite fighters still looked better . Games like Virtua Fighter and Toshinden simply didn't have the artistic value of pixel art that was based off hand-drawn illustrations. Arc System Works is getting there, but it comes from their utterly insane frame-by-frame efforts.





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"Re(2):President Skullo talks about Saikyo" , posted Tue 23 Feb 09:30post reply

Hey there bright eyes, here are a few quick thoughts on the new season:

Between Dan's slightly botoxed face and different voice it feels like Mr. Hibiki was fired from SF and replaced by a new actor. Or maybe it's a Bruce Lee / Bruce Li sort of thing. Whatever, at least his relentless taunt attacks are fun.

The V-Shift is nifty but doesn't feel like it remakes the entire game. Between keeping the joystick in neutral and giving up resources, going for a shift is a commitment. My guess is it will be good for getting out of expected pressure but it's probably rarely be successfully used against something like Dictator suddenly sliding in with . While I'm certain there will be situations where it will make for an impressive change in momentum I don't think the entire game is going to be remade around this mechanic. Then again, I like playing E.Honda so what do I know about finesse?

One of the loading screens now features art from the Fortnite crossover. There's no explanation for what it is, instead it's a big, weird picture Shinkiro drew of Ryu smiling through lens flare.







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"Re(3):President Skullo talks about Saikyo" , posted Tue 23 Feb 13:17post reply

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Hilarious! As every member of the MMC LAGFEST dojo knows, weird lens flare/stares are properly done with Sakura, not Ryu.

Thanks for the report on Dan and the new mechanics in general. I have high hopes that Honda will be top tier while Gouki gets shown the door, but in any event, Dan is probably all set up to be better than Evil Dan/Kage AND probably Ryu himself.

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"Re(4):President Skullo talks about Saikyo" , posted Thu 25 Feb 02:31post reply

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We should probably do Dan-fest around March 5/6/7 US-Japan time. Start planning now!


I'm going to be unavailable on 3/6 but I should be somewhat functional the other two days. Here's to hoping we can get a good gathering that features plenty of unnecessary, ill-timed V-Shifts.





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"Re(5):President Skullo talks about Saikyo" , posted Thu 25 Feb 05:46post reply

There is already a Dan's infinite combo.

Damn, why every time this game updates, at least on PS4, the size is ridiculous large!?? 27GB, it means practically it wants to download the game from scratch!







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"Re(6):President Skullo talks about Saikyo" , posted Fri 26 Feb 02:17post reply

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There is already a Dan's infinite combo.


It's another SNK reference!

I don't know how the balance for this season will shake out, but at the moment Dan's V-Skill 2 seems a bit nuts. Everyone else in the game is playing SF5 and Dan is out there doing incredibly strong Garou feint combos.







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"Juri Fighter 5" , posted Tue 16 Mar 04:53post reply

An all-Juri update is coming soon to SF5. I have no idea why Juri won everything in the costume contest but as a Juri player I'll take it.







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"Re(1):Juri Fighter 5" , posted Tue 16 Mar 05:58post reply

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An all-Juri update is coming soon to SF5. I have no idea why Juri won everything in the costume contest but as a Juri player I'll take it.

Juri may be stuck eternally in bottom tier with her bro Alex (who?), but as Dan's positive attitude and outward success show us, the important thing is to dress like you're top tier!

Speaking of which: Champion Edition temporarily ruined one of the main goals of Lagfest, which was to show off the various exotic/stupid costumes the Cafe had collected, now that we're back into a new season and Dan is here, it's time for sharing again! Are people interested in US evenings/Japan mornings on March 19/20, 20/21, 26/27, 27/28?





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"Re(1):Juri Fighter 5" , posted Tue 16 Mar 08:07post reply

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An all-Juri update is coming soon to SF5. I have no idea why Juri won everything in the costume contest but as a Juri player I'll take it.



The delinquent schoolgirl outfit looks great! But... isn't Juri from South Korea? This outfit looks like it would belong to a Japanese girl, not a Korean one.

The Shadaloo outfit, on the other hand, is... my knowledge of English is still quite limited, but I think the correct term in this case is "hot mess".





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"Re(2):Juri Fighter 5" , posted Tue 16 Mar 10:04post reply

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The delinquent schoolgirl outfit looks great! But... isn't Juri from South Korea? This outfit looks like it would belong to a Japanese girl, not a Korean one.
On the other hand, the more that a foul-mouthed, unpleasantly-acted psychopath like Juri is explicitly identified as being Korean, the more likely SFV is to cause an international incident, so the non-Korean uniform may have been a good choice! Just a Person's totally right that her uniform is more Japan-style, right down to the classic banchou/gang boss line "kenka joutou" ("ready to rumble") written on the side.

I feel like the female dictator thing made more sense in the contest sketch. Why does she have Vega's hat? Only the excellently-titled former MMC poster mbisonhatclub can be sure.





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"Re(3):Juri Fighter 5" , posted Tue 16 Mar 20:14post reply

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On the other hand, the more that a foul-mouthed, unpleasantly-acted psychopath like Juri is explicitly identified as being Korean, the more likely SFV is to cause an international incident, so the non-Korean uniform may have been a good choice!



That's a good point!

It also makes me wonder: should Capcom consider bringing a second South Korean character to the SF franchise - but this time with a heroic man (or woman)? Considering all the attention the country has getting recently with its films and music, this could attract more attention (in a positive light) to SF. And, after all, Tekken already has both Hwoarang and Baek, KOF has Kim and his team (plus some newcomers from XIV), SoulCalibur has Mina and Yunseong (and occasionally Hwang)...

Sure, some players may complain that a second Taekwondo fighter could feel repetitive - but then again, with all the shotos, plus Sagat and Adon, Yun and Yang and so on, I don't think that would be much of a problem.





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"Re(2):Juri Fighter 5" , posted Tue 16 Mar 22:32post reply

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The Shadaloo outfit, on the other hand, is... my knowledge of English is still quite limited, but I think the correct term in this case is "hot mess".


But Juri herself is a hot mess so it's appropriate!

Honestly, I also kind of like that goofy look. The asymmetrical design of an eyepatch on one side and a sash on the other is something that would never work in 2D so I appreciate a costume that takes advantage of how SF is currently built. I also suspect the Shadaloo outfit will work well with Juri's moves. When Juri does something as basic as charge a fireball she does an incredibly high kick so she needs an outfit that allows her legs plenty of movement. That long sukeban coat looks like it's going to constantly get in the way of her attacks. I'll be curious to see how these costumes work in-game.

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"G Funk Railroad" , posted Fri 19 Mar 03:21post reply

While everyone knew of the Juripalooza that was coming to SF5, nobody expected a new CPT package that was added today as well. Included is a new (hopefully) vertigo-inducing stage and a new costume for G that is so, so amazing.





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"Re(1):G Funk Railroad" , posted Fri 19 Mar 04:13post reply

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While everyone knew of the Juripalooza that was coming to SF5, nobody expected a new CPT package that was added today as well. Included is a new (hopefully) vertigo-inducing stage and a new costume for G that is so, so amazing.



I have decided that this will be the first CPT bundle I will ever purchased. I'll buy it later today before work.

G's costume looks pretty sick. I am glad he got another set of threads. He is one of my characters that I use online. The new stage does look cool as well.







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"Re(2):G Funk Railroad" , posted Fri 19 Mar 07:54post reply

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G's costume looks pretty sick. I am glad he got another set of threads. He is one of my characters that I use online. The new stage does look cool as well.


I hope you can make it to the next lagfest so I can fight against your Tony Iommi cosplayer inside that gigantic new stage.





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"Re(3):G Funk Railroad" , posted Fri 19 Mar 13:55post reply

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I have decided that this will be the first CPT bundle I will ever purchased. I'll buy it later today before work.

G's costume looks pretty sick. I am glad he got another set of threads. He is one of my characters that I use online. The new stage does look cool as well.

I hope you can make it to the next lagfest so I can fight against your Tony Iommi cosplayer inside that gigantic new stage.



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"Re(3):G Funk Railroad" , posted Fri 26 Mar 14:02post reply

Oh, was there a lagfest I missed? I'd be down for one this weekend, actually. More people need knee presses in their face.







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"Emergency lagfest?" , posted Sat 27 Mar 00:32post reply

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Oh, was there a lagfest I missed? I'd be down for one this weekend, actually. More people need knee presses in their face.

Rugal! Ah, it's last minute, but I always dream in Knee Press Nightmares. We could try a 9pm+ Saturday EST / 10am+ Sunday JST if enough people are game, or look at next weekend. Who's around?





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"Re(1):Emergency lagfest?" , posted Sat 27 Mar 10:31post reply

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Oh, was there a lagfest I missed? I'd be down for one this weekend, actually. More people need knee presses in their face.
Rugal! Ah, it's last minute, but I always dream in Knee Press Nightmares. We could try a 9pm+ Saturday EST / 10am+ Sunday JST if enough people are game, or look at next weekend. Who's around?


I’m getting my second COVID-19 shot that morning so I have no idea what sort of shape I will be in by that evening. Still, I will do my best to login and lag in.





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"Re(1):Emergency lagfest?" , posted Sat 27 Mar 20:29post reply

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Oh, was there a lagfest I missed? I'd be down for one this weekend, actually. More people need knee presses in their face.
Rugal! Ah, it's last minute, but I always dream in Knee Press Nightmares. We could try a 9pm+ Saturday EST / 10am+ Sunday JST if enough people are game, or look at next weekend. Who's around?


Okay, sure. I'd be down for it. Either or both are okay, honestly, I'm on vacation until the 7th.







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"Re(2):Emergency lagfest?" , posted Sun 28 Mar 06:49:post reply

Hey dudes, I can probably swing in for 9pm EST/10am JST...whoever's online first, send an invite if someone turns up! I HAVE ALSO SUMMONED A CERTAIN BUTTERMONSTER

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"Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sightings" , posted Sun 28 Mar 14:05post reply

The MMC Times was on the ground for the latest triple-time-zone lagfest, and there were reports of a lot of paranormal stuff going on! Sightings of strange mythological youkai duking it out, and down in Racoon City, Juan and Ishmael brought news of TERRIBLE UNDEAD MONSTERS. Further reports of mountain goblins afoot, and...oh, that tenguu was just Dan? Sadly, Vega wiped that Mr. Karate-mocking smile right off his face.

Speaking of legends, the most inconsequential biggest fight of the decade finally happened between Dan and Evil Dan, and after comparing who had the stubbiest normals, we made sure it looked as moronic as possible.

Dan's cosplay might have actually lost out to Juri's, who proved once again that you can by a Z-tier character but still have all the best outfits. Cammy's Marvel vs. Capcom outfit was also so overwhelmingly, heartwarmingly nostalgic that she induced fainting.

Proving the MMC Fashion Show adage that the clothes make the man, the most thrilling moment of the night was when Juan's unstoppable geezer Guile fell to Flavor Flav Ryu and his OG beats, leaving everyone to wonder as he wandered off into the sunset whether Ryu was really a winner all along because he believed in himself, patches or no.

On the subject of unlikely victories, MMC's favorite last boss Rugal ran the show as usual, but Sakura did manage an upset on the motion sickness-tastic airplane edge before throwing up.

However, AbiGAAAAAAIL and his deadly finger flick are a reminder that peppy ingénues shouldn't let a stray victory go to their heads or get too out of control. But it's probably too late with vaccines starting to appear, with young people starting to flock to the beach, girls again going wild, and the Justice Gakuen team watching from the shore and counting down the days till Akira is available for download.





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"Re(1):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Sun 28 Mar 23:25post reply

Thanks for the competition and commentary! Sorry I was a bit out of it last night, I wasn't able to focus (attack dash cancel) the way I wanted to. I didn't even get to try out all the funny costumes I wanted to wear. Oh well, that will give me something to strut about in when we lag out the next new character soon.

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"Re(2):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Mon 29 Mar 20:46post reply

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"Re(3):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Mon 29 Mar 23:45post reply

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Sorry I was a bit out of it last night, I wasn't able to focus (attack dash cancel) the way I wanted to.
Never fear, I was getting less and less mileage out of my Saturn pad and am moving back to the Hori Fight Commander again. But Fashion Week will return!
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how to play Rose
qcf+lk

Hahaha. Gotta have that Soul Spiral. I remember in SFZero that she seemed best suited for taking on projectile users with her fun reflect/absorb options, but I wonder how it was fighting anyone else...at least until the Zangief Hadouken finally happens.





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"Cats' droppings" , posted Thu 1 Apr 15:49post reply

Neco Drop 2!
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"Re(4):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Thu 1 Apr 22:57:post reply

Anyone want to do another one this weekend? This is an extremely rare Rugal invitational, people! Well, a crappy laggy invitational, but nevertheless, extremely rare and much sought after!
Edit: It must be the end of the world, or something, I've posted MORE THAN ONCE in the space of a FEW MINUTES!





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"Re(5):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Fri 2 Apr 12:20post reply

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Anyone want to do another one this weekend? This is an extremely rare Rugal invitational, people! Well, a crappy laggy invitational, but nevertheless, extremely rare and much sought after!
Edit: It must be the end of the world, or something, I've posted MORE THAN ONCE in the space of a FEW MINUTES!


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"Re(6):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Fri 2 Apr 12:28post reply

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Anyone want to do another one this weekend? This is an extremely rare Rugal invitational, people! Well, a crappy laggy invitational, but nevertheless, extremely rare and much sought after!
Edit: It must be the end of the world, or something, I've posted MORE THAN ONCE in the space of a FEW MINUTES!

Nobody BRAVE enough to TAKE THE CHALLENGE?

I might be able to insert a credit, though it depends on timing (nights US/mornings Japan). Want to check if/when Juan can do it, and we can see if Ishmael or other stalwarts here can?





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"Re(7):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Fri 2 Apr 22:37post reply

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Anyone want to do another one this weekend? This is an extremely rare Rugal invitational, people! Well, a crappy laggy invitational, but nevertheless, extremely rare and much sought after!
Edit: It must be the end of the world, or something, I've posted MORE THAN ONCE in the space of a FEW MINUTES!

Nobody BRAVE enough to TAKE THE CHALLENGE?
I might be able to insert a credit, though it depends on timing (nights US/mornings Japan). Want to check if/when Juan can do it, and we can see if Ishmael or other stalwarts here can?

I should be available in the early evenings US time. Let me know when everything is going down, hopefully I can make it for a match or two.





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"Re(8):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Fri 2 Apr 23:15:post reply

How about tomorrow (Sat for me) 10 AM Japan time?





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"Re(9):Lagfest Times: Thrilling and Exotic Sig" , posted Fri 2 Apr 23:44post reply

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Friday 9pm EST / Saturday 10am JST it is! I'll try to stop in then.





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"Lagfest Times: Rugal Invitational" , posted Sat 3 Apr 14:14post reply

What's this, two Lagfests in a week? There's a MMC Times Weekend Edition to bring you the latest in 3+ timezone play!

Chairman Honda was there to bless the ring for the Rugal Invitation, but the World Warriors were clearly grandfathered in and lying down on the job. The terror of Rugal's Vega made everyone sit up and take notice, so Zangief dressed to match the gravity of the occasion. Slightly less frightening was Juri cosplaying as pirate Vega, since it turns out the solution is to moonwalk.

It was neat seeing Kairi from SF EX, and the biggest thrill was the prospect of losing to Dan, though his hilarious recovery times meant that even the weakest participants could outlast him. I like how his voice is even more annoying than before.

The most amazing sight of the night was watching Ishmael's Alex (!!!) defeat the mighty Juan, an event so unexpected that the cameramen could only catch some awkward footage.

Meanwhile, with summer coming, some people are lying around working on their tans and breaking out their shades, though as in real life it's always just a matter of time before kappas and muscleheads take over the place.

Also: sometimes it's important to launch cops out of your house when they conduct warrantless searches.

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"Re(1):Lagfest Times: Rugal Invitational" , posted Sat 3 Apr 18:46post reply

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What's this, two Lagfests in a week? There's a MMC Times Weekend Edition to bring you the latest in 3+ timezone play!


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"Re(2):Lagfest Times: Rugal Invitational" , posted Sat 3 Apr 22:44post reply

Thanks for the games everyone! Special thanks to Maou for his commentary and curation of the proceedings. Without the archives I never would have realized that Sakura can leap to Guilty Gear-esque heights over Juri or that Ms. Kasugano's uppercut starts by slamming straight into Dan's groin. Small wonder Dan decided to lay down and not get back up.







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"Re(2):Lagfest Times: Rugal Invitational" , posted Sat 3 Apr 22:44post reply

Thanks for the games everyone! Special thanks to Maou for his commentary and curation of the proceedings. Without the archives I never would have realized that Sakura can leap to Guilty Gear-esque heights over Juri or that Ms. Kasugano's uppercut starts by slamming straight into Dan's groin. Small wonder Dan decided to lay down and not get back up.





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"SFV Spring Update 2021" , posted Wed 7 Apr 09:27:post reply

Rose is being released April 19th. Oro and Akira look really good in this game as well with their reveals in the Spring Update!

Rose looks stunning! She is one of Street Fighter's best and underrated characters. I can't wait to start using her in matches!

Also, Daigo making an appearance in Arika's moveset brought back some nostalgic memories.





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"Re(1):SFV Spring Update 2021 of JUSTICE" , posted Wed 7 Apr 10:19post reply

I think you mean "Akira," unless SF EX developer Arika is making even more costumes for SFV! Anyway, thanks for the reminder---I'd forgotten this was happening today. I'll remind everyone that MMCafe is the premier source of SFV prophecies (not leaks):
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It would be cool if she had an assist V-Skill with Daigo like Mika has with Nadeshiko.

the only logicial assumption is that they're all Justice Gakuen characters. BEHOLD, you know my vision to be correct
The most important part of the Akira trailer is near the end! It's not clear whether the collective Cafe will be more excited by Akira's brother or Oro's turtle appearing as partners, but all I care about is that Akira's energy flashes the kanji for "friendship," in the proper nod to the "two-platoon (tag-team) of love and frienship" moves from Justice Gakuen.

I was just thinking how I was getting tired of SFV's old stages and familiar faces, and a mini-revival of my favorite Capcom fighting game (note I did not say "the best Capcom fighting game") is just the thing...and I barely even ever used Akira! It was all Daigo and Hinata, all the time.

Please watch this space on Akira's actual release date, during which I will recite the Justice Gakuen school song in its entirety, which I still remember better than my real-life school song. Iggy can sing Taiyou's or Gorin's, I guess.





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"Re(2):SFV Spring Update 2021 of JUSTICE" , posted Wed 7 Apr 10:56post reply

Akira looks great, Oro's turtle is adorable, and Rose can do everything. Not only does she have her genei jin combos and can toss air fireballs but she now teleports better than Nash. If she ever figured out how to do ground pounds she could boot Necalli from the game as well.

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"Re(3):SFV Spring Update 2021 of JUSTICE" , posted Wed 7 Apr 15:15post reply

It concerns me that Rose still seems to have only one facial expression and no eye movement, but I suppose that's the price you pay for a neck shortening. I am pleased to see they returned Lisa Lisa's iconic throw that she was sorely missing in SF4 just in time for Stone Ocean's anime announcement.

Everyone is so distracted by Juri's nurse outfit that nobody noticed Seth cosplaying as Young Geese Howard. Or maybe it's AoF1 King. Either way, at least Ohtsuka gets to voice a much better character now that Super Daigo is swooping in to help his sister before taking to the skies again.







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"Re(4):SFV Spring Update 2021 of JUSTICE" , posted Thu 8 Apr 00:52post reply

Akira looking as good as she does here makes me think they should attempt CFAS again but give it the playability of SF. Basically make it Capcom's version of KOF, but without the three-man team rule so they don't have to tether the roster.

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Everyone is so distracted by Juri's nurse outfit that nobody noticed Seth cosplaying as Young Geese Howard. Or maybe it's AoF1 King. Either way, at least Ohtsuka gets to voice a much better character now that Super Daigo is swooping in to help his sister before taking to the skies again.



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"Rose Garden" , posted Tue 20 Apr 10:48post reply

Very quick thoughts on Rose:

After trying out Rose I do wonder if she's actually going to be good. Is she going to be more like Gill where her move set seems like a good idea on paper but it can't come together properly? I'm particularly terrible at figuring out characters so expect her to have touch of death combos by the end of the week.

Also, everyone always talks about Rose's scarf, but what about her dress? She spends a majority of her day sliding around on her butt in an outfit that does not seem practical for that sort of behavior. However, her dress is never scuffed or bunched up. That's some impressive fabric.





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"Re(1):Rose Garden" , posted Thu 22 Apr 01:51post reply

quote:
Very quick thoughts on Rose:

After trying out Rose I do wonder if she's actually going to be good. Is she going to be more like Gill where her move set seems like a good idea on paper but it can't come together properly? I'm particularly terrible at figuring out characters so expect her to have touch of death combos by the end of the week.

Also, everyone always talks about Rose's scarf, but what about her dress? She spends a majority of her day sliding around on her butt in an outfit that does not seem practical for that sort of behavior. However, her dress is never scuffed or bunched up. That's some impressive fabric.



I've managed a very simple combo with Rose. Jumping roundhouse+ducking strong punch+Soul Scarf (and if you have your super meter built up, you can use her critical art Fatal Aura Spark right after that).

I am just so thrilled to have her back again. She truly looks better than ever. SO MUCH better than Street Fighter IV. The remake of her SFA2 stage is gorgeous.







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"Re(2):Rose Garden" , posted Thu 22 Apr 08:42post reply

After playing around a bit more and watching clips from players who actually know what they're doing I've realized that Rose is no slouch. The players who can get creative with her combos are probably going to quite well. I hope the rest of the cast likes the taste of high heels, because Rose and Poison are going to be delivering pumps to the face for the foreseeable future.

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I've managed a very simple combo with Rose. Jumping roundhouse+ducking strong punch+Soul Scarf (and if you have your super meter built up, you can use her critical art Fatal Aura Spark right after that).


Nice! Now if I can figure out a way to safely generate Soul Satellites I'll be able to do absurd damage from a basic jump-in.







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"Re(3):Rose Garden" , posted Thu 22 Apr 10:12post reply

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I hope the rest of the cast likes the taste of high heels, because Rose and Poison are going to be delivering pumps to the face for the foreseeable future.
Outstanding! My body is ready for Lagfest: High Heels Edition any evening people want to set something up.

The other good thing that Rose apparently brings is a strong hint in her story that Capcom might be willing to stop trying to wedge future games into the crappy, boring corner they'd painted themselves into with SFIII's crappy, boring story always having to be the final chapter. Now we can start dreaming of the wonderful world where SFVI is a continuous SF Zero-style goofball party with a bunch of Justice Gakuen cameos.

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"Re(4):Rose Garden" , posted Thu 22 Apr 14:53post reply

Rose looks decent enough with Jojo references intact, but I just can't look at her face and NOT see it. I just can't. It bothers me so much.

Her eyes. They don't move. Like, at all.

There are maybe two or three animations where you see them moving, but for the most part she doesn't focus her eyes on anything. She's like a lifeless, permanently cross-eyed doll and that would only be okay if it was actually supposed to be part of her character, but I don't recall that being a thing.

This makes me think that she was wearing sunglasses or something early on in her development and had them taken off later (which would make sense), but when they showed her in early development she had no such thing, so I just can't understand it. Why go this far and just not finish the job?







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"Re(4):Rose Garden" , posted Thu 22 Apr 19:11post reply

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The other good thing that Rose apparently brings is a strong hint in her story that Capcom might be willing to stop trying to wedge future games into the crappy, boring corner they'd painted themselves into with SFIII's crappy, boring story always having to be the final chapter. Now we can start dreaming of the wonderful world where SFVI is a continuous SF Zero-style goofball party with a bunch of Justice Gakuen cameos.

If the last character is Sawada, you'll have a crossover with all the Jean-claude Van Damme movies and get Dolph Lungreen as a cameo.
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"Re(5):Rose Garden" , posted Thu 22 Apr 21:04post reply

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If the last character is Sawada, you'll have a crossover with all the Jean-claude Van Damme movies and get Dolph Lungreen as a cameo.
AND YOU'LL LIKE IT.



After Dolph, can we get Jackie Chan cosplaying as Chun Li?







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"Re(6):Rose Garden" , posted Thu 22 Apr 23:06post reply

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If the last character is Sawada, you'll have a crossover with all the Jean-claude Van Damme movies and get Dolph Lungreen as a cameo.
AND YOU'LL LIKE IT.


After Dolph, can we get Jackie Chan cosplaying as Chun Li?


With our luck we're going to get Kristin Kreuk.







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"Re(7):Rose Garden" , posted Fri 23 Apr 04:10post reply

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crossover with all the Jean-claude Van Damme movies and get Dolph Lungreen as a cameo.

After Dolph, can we get Jackie Chan cosplaying as Chun Li?

With our luck we're going to get Kristin Kreuk.

Hahaha, and the amazing thing is that all of these would still be more interesting final characters than Decapre and less depressing/infuriating than ugly American box art Rockman in SFxTekken.

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If the last character is Sawada, you'll have a crossover with all the Jean-claude Van Damme movies and get Dolph Lungreen as a cameo.
AND YOU'LL LIKE IT.



If it means the return of exploding lifebars and insane juggles with the godlike Zangief 'HGGGGRH' coin sound, then bring it.







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"Re(6):Rose Garden" , posted Fri 23 Apr 07:49post reply

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you'll have a crossover with all the Jean-claude Van Damme movies and get Dolph Lungreen as a cameo.

If it means the return of exploding lifebars and insane juggles with the godlike Zangief 'HGGGGRH' coin sound, then bring it.

Better still, for the final character, bring back everyone's favorite, Street Fighter The Movie The Game's Ryu and his magnificently mispronounced attacks! DAZZUMAKI ZEM BYAKOOOOO!



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"Re(7):Rose Garden" , posted Fri 23 Apr 18:22post reply

Worse than Decapre, I can only imagine something like a playable Shadow Lady or Tanned Sakura or something like that.







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"Re(8):Rose Garden" , posted Sat 24 Apr 05:22post reply

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Worse than Decapre, I can only imagine something like a playable Shadow Lady or Tanned Sakura or something like that.

Honestly, I would welcome Decapre back. Her moveset was interesting.
ESPECIALLY if that means Cammy is banned from SF6 like she should have been from SF5.







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"Re(9):Rose Garden" , posted Sat 24 Apr 11:43post reply

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Honestly, I would welcome Decapre back. Her moveset was interesting.
ESPECIALLY if that means Cammy is banned from SF6 like she should have been from SF5.



My guess is Decapre, and Capcom has intentionally kept her hidden as a joke.


The bigger Season 5 issue though... After building up G as a future threat and/or boss, has that story already been brought to an end? Rose's story sees her fighting G, realizing the destruction he heralds has become unavoidable, and thus she attempts to send a warning to her younger self so she can instead prevent it in the past. If she actually succeeded and altered the timeline to prevent said destruction, then she's pretty much stopped G as well, before he ever got to do much of anything.







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"Re(10):Rose Garden" , posted Sat 24 Apr 12:22post reply

Hahah, they should keep her as very well-hidden joke like Dan in SF Zero 1: out of my way off the character select screen but available to those who really want them.

As for the Case of Rose and the Missing G: Ono and friends were pretty upfront in past interviews about how SF's story has always been quote "pretty weak," and the whole story of SFV seems to have been written on the fly. Necalli was going to be central and was on all the early ads...until they realized how lame he was, and wrote him out of his own game by the second season story mode, where he was literally an irrelevant nuisance to Ryu while trying to fight Shadowloo. G appears...but then, other (much more boring) savior figures like Gill are written in because SFIII's story had to be at the end. Like I was saying above, maybe Rose's new story is them realizing that SFIII is a stupid dead-end of a story and no one cares about Gill or the Illuminati, so SFV's final and greatest gift to humanity can be making it so that SFIII never existed. (Uhhhhhhhhhh, the story I mean. Yeah, that's it...)





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"Re(2):Re(10):Rose Garden" , posted Sat 24 Apr 14:17post reply

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so SFV's final and greatest gift to humanity can be making it so that SFIII never existed. (Uhhhhhhhhhh, the story I mean. Yeah, that's it...)

I'd be pretty fine with that. I don't hate second impact, though...

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"Re(2):Re(10):Rose Garden" , posted Sun 25 Apr 05:09post reply

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Hahah, they should keep her as very well-hidden joke like Dan in SF Zero 1: out of my way off the character select screen but available to those who really want them.

As for the Case of Rose and the Missing G: Ono and friends were pretty upfront in past interviews about how SF's story has always been quote "pretty weak," and the whole story of SFV seems to have been written on the fly. Necalli was going to be central and was on all the early ads...until they realized how lame he was, and wrote him out of his own game by the second season story mode, where he was literally an irrelevant nuisance to Ryu while trying to fight Shadowloo. G appears...but then, other (much more boring) savior figures like Gill are written in because SFIII's story had to be at the end. Like I was saying above, maybe Rose's new story is them realizing that SFIII is a stupid dead-end of a story and no one cares about Gill or the Illuminati, so SFV's final and greatest gift to humanity can be making it so that SFIII never existed. (Uhhhhhhhhhh, the story I mean. Yeah, that's it...)



The weird thing is, rather than retcon SFIII out of the timeline, wouldn't it be just easier to have the next games taking place after it? Before SFIV, there was the idea that there was a huge time gap between SFII and SFIII, and therefore the most classic World Warriors couldn't be in the next games because they would be too old - but SFIV and SFV dropped this impression, especially IV, which had both the SFII World Warriors looking just like they always did AND some SFIII characters that are young in SFIII (Ibuki, Makoto, Elena and the Lee twins) and thus wouldn't be able to appear in a game if it took place too many years before SFIII. In other words, SFVI could perfectly bring back any character without having to worry if they would be too old. And even if it did, Tekken already showed that you can just bring everyone back with no worries (even if it pretends the older women in the franchise like Jun, Michelle and the first Kunimitsu don't exist).

As for this time reset idea, honestly, I don't like it. Sure, it can lead to interesting stories and concepts if used right; the problem is that it is too easy to mess it up and result in something awful. This idea may have worked for Mortal Kombat, but that's only because Armageddon ended up in such a bad way that anything would be better. SF, despite being far from having the most fleshed out story in a fighting game, hasn't reached that point yet to need a reboot.





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"Re(3):Rose Garden" , posted Sun 25 Apr 07:50post reply

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Nice! Now if I can figure out a way to safely generate Soul Satellites I'll be able to do absurd damage from a basic jump-in.



I rarely give a thought to her V-Triggers, just because of the risk involved.

Street Fighter, IMO, screwed up their storyline with SFA3. That game was all over the place in regards to story. If they really had to "reset it back to zero", then they need to hire writers that can actually salvage the story.







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"Re(4):Rose Garden" , posted Sun 25 Apr 08:15post reply

Why do people think that Rose is going to be able to do something as complex as resetting time itself when she can barely make it through her own storylines without getting beaten up? If this plotline is used all that will happen is that Rose will screw up, generate more psycho power, and bring back Bison in time for the first season pass of SF6.

But odds are it will be another abandoned plotline, joining the ranks of Neo Shadaloo and whoever beat up Takuma in KoF 03.





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"Re(5):Rose Garden" , posted Sun 25 Apr 09:27post reply

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Why do people think that Rose is going to be able to do something as complex as resetting time itself when she can barely make it through her own storylines without getting beaten up? If this plotline is used all that will happen is that Rose will screw up, generate more psycho power, and bring back Bison in time for the first season pass of SF6.



Chun-Li, for all her cockiness, gets her ass handed her to by Juri and Bison throughout the SF series, and also has a strong match in Viper in the SFIV storyline. So, perhaps, Rose can redeem herself in the past. Anything is possible in the SF storyline, it seems.

I am hoping SF can advance the storyline beyond 3rd Strike. Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li and Cammy need to be in the games to sell, so I think SF6 can take place a couple of years after 3rd Strike without aging the characters too much. But the storyline does need to move on from Satsui no Hado and Shadoloo already. It's old and tiresome.







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"Re(5):Rose Garden" , posted Sun 25 Apr 09:38post reply

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Why do people think that Rose is going to be able to do something as complex as resetting time itself when she can barely make it through her own storylines without getting beaten up? If this plotline is used all that will happen is that Rose will screw up, generate more psycho power, and bring back Bison in time for the first season pass of SF6.


On one hand, if Rose fails to alter the past then destruction is allegedly unavoidable.

On the other hand, if Rose succeeds in altering the past, then Capcom gets to retcon any and all of SF5 that it wants to retcon. Not just Bison, they can bring Shadaloo itself back with Sagat, Vega, Balrog, and the various Dolls all back in their original roles. They want Sakura back as a Ryu-obsessed schoolgirl instead of a reality-facing woman, then she's back to that. They want a different Nash revival, then he's back differently. They want to erase Necalli, then he's gone. They want to erase G, then he's gone.

Besides, a time manipulation reboot would just see Capcom following in the relatively recent footsteps of SNK and Netherealm.





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"Lagbattle today?" , posted Sun 25 Apr 10:14post reply

Anyone down for it? I'm home and bored, with predictions of thunderstorms for the afternoon cancelling plans to go dig up bamboo shoots.







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"Re(1):Lagbattle today?" , posted Tue 27 Apr 00:30post reply

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Anyone down for it? I'm home and bored, with predictions of thunderstorms for the afternoon cancelling plans to go dig up bamboo shoots.


Sorry, there's been a lot going on in my little corner of the world so I haven't had the time to go lagging. By mid-May things should clear up so I'll have plenty of time to get obliterated by absurd Rose combos.





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"Saturday Lag Challenge!" , posted Thu 6 May 20:51post reply

Anyone down for it?







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"Re(1):Saturday Lag Challenge!" , posted Tue 11 May 05:29post reply

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Maybe on the weekend of 5/15? Sorry, it's been a busy month!







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What's that? Hahahah, no, of course Juri didn't get any improvements. What do you think this is, a game where they thought about Juri/Alex/Claw/Fang for more than five minutes?





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"Re(1):anti-Cammy patch" , posted Thu 20 May 13:06post reply

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It's been a bit busy for lagfests and I'm mostly just waiting for more stages and Akira, but I am very pleased by the recent patch notes, which hilariously put Cammy at the top, out of alphabetical order, to underline her much-deserved nerfs. Regrettably, Necalli is still in the game.

What's that? Hahahah, no, of course Juri didn't get any improvements. What do you think this is, a game where they thought about Juri/Alex/Claw/Fang for more than five minutes?



The Random Enhanced Gadoken is a unique way to get rid of Dan's infinite combo. They probably could have done more discrete like limit the number of V-Skill cancels in a combo, but chose to add a gimmick.

Apparently Zangief got a major nerf with a lack of throw invincibility to his EX SPD on frame 1. I tried playing over the weekend and my skills have really deteriorated and I got frustrated really easily. I think 5 years is enough with this game for me.







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"Re(1):anti-Cammy patch" , posted Fri 21 May 03:25post reply

I like how Capcom put Nash at the top to showcase his improvements but you know everyone is simply going to go play Ken instead.

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What's that? Hahahah, no, of course Juri didn't get any improvements. What do you think this is, a game where they thought about Juri/Alex/Claw/Fang for more than five minutes?


Ryu and Juri are perfect and beautiful as they are. The only thing Juri is lacking is a new costume; it's been a few weeks since she had some new threads.

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Apparently Zangief got a major nerf with a lack of throw invincibility to his EX SPD on frame 1. I tried playing over the weekend and my skills have really deteriorated and I got frustrated really easily. I think 5 years is enough with this game for me.

Judging from the hits Zangief and Abigail took I do wonder if the balance team is regularly getting destroyed online by Itabashi Zangief or some other high-level big boy player. Maybe now it's Alex's time to shine? Nah, it's more likely Honda's reign of butt-slam terror will now really go into overdrive.





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"Hey there... it's me again!" , posted Tue 25 May 19:48post reply

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"Nobody up for a CHALLENGE?" , posted Thu 27 May 17:53post reply

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"Re(1):Nobody up for a CHALLENGE?" , posted Thu 27 May 22:27post reply

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Since we were unable to last time, who's down for some absurdly laggy matches this weekend? JP Time 9:00 AM?

No-one? Guess I'll go feed the turtles as usual, then.


If it's Saturday morning Tokyo time I should be able to show up for a bit. I won't be able to do much outside of being a sentient punching bag but it will be good to get in a few matches.







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"Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Wed 2 Jun 14:22post reply

A cookbook written as if from Sakura’s perspective as she travels the world and collects recipes from the homelands of various characters? Even if the Cooking in Games thread isn’t open anymore, I feel like everyone in the Cafe probably deserves a free copy.





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"Re(1):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Wed 2 Jun 23:21post reply

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A cookbook written as if from Sakura’s perspective as she travels the world and collects recipes from the homelands of various characters? Even if the Cooking in Games thread isn’t open anymore, I feel like everyone in the Cafe probably deserves a free copy.


Heh, that's amusing. It's not 30 dollars amusing, but I own more useless pieces of SF memorabilia.

It looks like the author has made something of a career of the videogame cookbook niche, including two books inspired by the post-apocalyptic landscapes of Destiny and Fallout. If you've ever shot a mole rat and then thought "If I stewed that all afternoon I bet it would make a great broth" there is, incredibly, a book just for you.





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"Re(1):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Thu 3 Jun 01:18:post reply

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A cookbook written as if from Sakura’s perspective as she travels the world and collects recipes from the homelands of various characters? Even if the Cooking in Games thread isn’t open anymore, I feel like everyone in the Cafe probably deserves a free copy.



A cookbook that also brings Sakura gossiping about her fellow street fighters? That's brilliant! I mean, who could guess that Ken, of all people, actually enjoys cooking?

I look forward to the stories about the characters that are... not the nicest people.

"There was this time I was on the South Korea stage from SSFIV and Juri tried to kill me, so I had to literally fight for my life. After I defeated her, she invited me to her hideout, where she cooked some delicious dishes from her country! We had a great meal together. Then she grabbed a knife and tried to kill me again."





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"There was this time I was on the South Korea stage from SSFIV and Juri tried to kill me, so I had to literally fight for my life. After I defeated her, she invited me to her hideout, where she cooked some delicious dishes from her country! We had a great meal together. Then she grabbed a knife and tried to kill me again."

Hahaha. I can only assume Dictator eats either flavorless gruel or charbroiled steaks each day. Does she visit...what was his name again...Necalli (he is still in the game) for, ah, soul food?





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"Re(3):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Thu 3 Jun 02:18post reply

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Hahaha. I can only assume Dictator eats either flavorless gruel or charbroiled steaks each day. Does she visit...what was his name again...Necalli (he is still in the game) for, ah, soul food?

You may remember (or fail to remember) Necalli for being ugly and not bringing anything interesting to the game... but what if I told you his ancestral recipe for Enchiladas he's learned from his grandmother is so delicious you'll not only lick your fingers, you'll eat them too?





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"Re(1):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Thu 3 Jun 14:29post reply

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A cookbook written as if from Sakura’s perspective as she travels the world and collects recipes from the homelands of various characters?


As someone who avoids fighting game "stories" like the plague, as I feel it actually diminishes one's intellect, this is an obvious "canonical" fail, or just rubber stamping a license agreement Fortnite style.

El Fuerte is the damned chef of the series. The cook book should be him sharing the fun recipes he earned defeating other world warriors in battle. I doubt waifu fans will buy it for the Sakura angle. :b





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"Re(2):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Thu 3 Jun 22:53post reply

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A cookbook written as if from Sakura’s perspective as she travels the world and collects recipes from the homelands of various characters?

As someone who avoids fighting game "stories" like the plague, as I feel it actually diminishes one's intellect, this is an obvious "canonical" fail, or just rubber stamping a license agreement Fortnite style.

El Fuerte is the damned chef of the series. The cook book should be him sharing the fun recipes he earned defeating other world warriors in battle. I doubt waifu fans will buy it for the Sakura angle. :b



But El Fuerte is a TERRIBLE chef, if I remember correctly... a cookbook "written" by him wouldn't lend the recipes much credibility, I guess.

Maybe Sakura decided to become a chef after she realized she needed a job to be able to pay for her street-fighting trips around the world?





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"Re(2):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Fri 4 Jun 03:22post reply

I refuse to read any cookbook penned by Sakura unless it is hijacked with liner notes and witty retorts from Karin.

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Has there been any other Capcom character that has fallen off the map faster than Fuerte? I doubt he'd even get a cameo if they resurrected Slam Masters.







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"Re(3):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Fri 4 Jun 03:56post reply

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Maybe Sakura decided to become a chef after she realized she needed a job to be able to pay for her street-fighting trips around the world?


Between street fighting, trying to write a cookbook, and getting a job at an arcade it's obvious Sakura is the queen of poor career decisions. I'm looking forward to SF6 where she is working as a clerk at a video rental shop.

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Has there been any other Capcom character that has fallen off the map faster than Fuerte? I doubt he'd even get a cameo if they resurrected Slam Masters.


I personally expect El Fuerte to show up as DLC at some point in SF6's lifespan since there isn't anyone else in the cast who plays like him. But, still, you're right that the guy dropped out of sight harder than Remy. Even Abel gets the occasional shout-out and he's as dull as a slice of white bread.







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"Re(4):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Fri 4 Jun 04:52post reply

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I personally expect El Fuerte to show up as DLC at some point in SF6's lifespan since there isn't anyone else in the cast who plays like him.
I feel like the CvS2 version of Maki plays very similar to him.
She's also less hated because she was absolute bottom tier and didn't have the occasion to annoy anyone.
However, her voice was more annoying than Fuerte's, so I'll give them a tie.





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"Re(4):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Fri 4 Jun 05:21post reply

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Between street fighting, trying to write a cookbook, and getting a job at an arcade it's obvious Sakura is the queen of poor career decisions. I'm looking forward to SF6 where she is working as a clerk at a video rental shop.



That's what she gets for idolizing Ryu, who never had a professional career.





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"Re(3):Street Fighter cookbook" , posted Fri 4 Jun 21:54post reply

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Maybe Sakura decided to become a chef after she realized she needed a job to be able to pay for her street-fighting trips around the world?



Maybe Karin is silently helping Sakura behind the scenes. Sakura might not take a substantial hand-out, but if Sakura and Karin just happen to talk about the idea of writing a cook book and a publisher just happens to offer Sakura a better than normal deal that will pay for her personal globe-trotting as research...





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"Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Fri 18 Jun 22:15:post reply

Since Strive is out and I'll probably be focusing on it in the foreseeable future, I was wondering if anyone wanted to squeeze in a final lagfest for old time's sake?

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"Re(1):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Sat 19 Jun 01:57post reply

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Since Strive is out and I'll probably be focusing on it in the foreseeable future, I was wondering if anyone wanted to squeeze in a final lagfest for old time's sake?

Edit: OR, if anyone wants to do Strive... heh heh.


Afraid I can't make it since I have to go to some stupid birthday party. I would prefer not to but it's my birthday so certain obligations have to be met.







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"Re(1):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Sat 19 Jun 02:06post reply

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Edit: OR, if anyone wants to do Strive... heh heh.

The problem with Strive is that it's not crossplay, so PC and PS4 can't play together...





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"Re(2):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Sat 19 Jun 02:25post reply

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Edit: OR, if anyone wants to do Strive... heh heh.
The problem with Strive is that it's not crossplay, so PC and PS4 can't play together...



Yet.

Hopefully it gets implemented as I do plan on purchasing to PC release, and also due to the relative success of the game's sales.

What's the split of PC vs. Console players for Strive here?





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"Re(3):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Sat 19 Jun 06:26post reply

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Hopefully it gets implemented as I do plan on purchasing to PC release, and also due to the relative success of the game's sales.



I don't expect ASW to ever implement PS/PC crossplay.

Most of the hope seems to come from a comment from Riku Ozawa, who said it was not impossible. But that "hope" ignores that the comment was instead pretty much ruling out the possibility.

It is worth noting also that various other developers have mentioned in the past the various road blocks Sony has placed against their attempts to enable crossplatform play. Epic revealed just how sweet a deal Sony turned down when Epic was originally trying to get Sony to agree to crossplatform Fortnite play. Epic has also pointed out that Sony is the only company that requires publishers agree to potentially pay Sony monthly compensation for crossplatform play.





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"Re(4):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Sat 19 Jun 14:32post reply

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I don't expect ASW to ever implement PS/PC crossplay.

Most of the hope seems to come from a comment from Riku Ozawa, who said it was not impossible. But that "hope" ignores that the comment was instead pretty much ruling out the possibility.

It is worth noting also that various other developers have mentioned in the past the various road blocks Sony has placed against their attempts to enable crossplatform play. Epic revealed just how sweet a deal Sony turned down when Epic was originally trying to get Sony to agree to crossplatform Fortnite play. Epic has also pointed out that Sony is the only company that requires publishers agree to potentially pay Sony monthly compensation for crossplatform play.



I'm leaning more on the sales success of the title, being the most successful release of the franchise ever. So there may be a financial incentive to bridge the gap between player bases.

Although I do agree, it is foolish and greedy of Sony to demand software developers pay the vig.

In the current gaming market, I find it very unfortunate that we went from the PS3/360 era of pretty well curated ecosystems for games with single gamer tags / user ID's - to the current state where you have a platform ID, have to pay to play online with the respective platform (barring PC), and then are further sequestered by the respective software title's unique player ID.

e.g. I'm still a bit salty that my Capcom Fighter Network ID is not portable between the PS4 and PC. Although considering that mafia extortion exposé on Sony - I reckon that's a result of platforms becoming more fractured, and Sony no longer being interested in being a neutral intermediary when instead they can demand a cash payment from developers (crossplay) and players (online play).

It's a damned shame. I wonder what the split will be for Strive sales, they were touting 300k shipped earlier this week, but physical Japanese sales were just 11K and I honestly don't expect Western markets to pick up slack in the physical sales area. So the question is - what's the split between physical and digital sales between region, and then what's the split between Playstation systems and PC?

Crazy as it seems - I don't believe fighting games have the cultural cachet to be platform exclusives. A large part of the success of Street Fighter 4 was due in part to a poverty player being able to run some version of the game on a potato.

Ignoring reason, I could simply fall back on my superstition that odd numbered main line Street Fighter games are cursed entries. :b





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"Re(5):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Sun 20 Jun 16:34post reply

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In the current gaming market, I find it very unfortunate that we went from the PS3/360 era of pretty well curated ecosystems for games with single gamer tags / user ID's - to the current state where you have a platform ID, have to pay to play online with the respective platform (barring PC), and then are further sequestered by the respective software title's unique player ID.



Well, the 360 was the beginning of paying to playing online with a particular platform with Xbox Live Gold: unless you had paid for the subscription, many games on X360 would not allow you to play online. Once that genie was out of the bottle, neither Sony nor Nintendo could ignore vast revenue that provided.

I personally prefer not having all of my user information the same across all titles with one common user ID people can stalk me with, and given that that was the norm for many online PC games particularly ones which have their own servers, I don't see this as too big of a minus. The Google Play store on the other hand does kind of provide that, but I find Google's services to be increasingly uncomfortably invasive.







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"Re(6):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Mon 21 Jun 10:40post reply

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It's a damned shame. I wonder what the split will be for Strive sales, they were touting 300k shipped earlier this week, but physical Japanese sales were just 11K and I honestly don't expect Western markets to pick up slack in the physical sales area. So the question is - what's the split between physical and digital sales between region, and then what's the split between Playstation systems and PC?


Sadly, 11K sounds about right for GG. This has always been a series where the lofty pre-release expectations never seem to match up to the actual sales.I

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I personally prefer not having all of my user information the same across all titles with one common user ID people can stalk me with, and given that that was the norm for many online PC games particularly ones which have their own servers, I don't see this as too big of a minus. The Google Play store on the other hand does kind of provide that, but I find Google's services to be increasingly uncomfortably invasive.


True, a single user ID could be horribly intrusive. Plus, how would people make smurf accounts?







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"Re(7):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Mon 21 Jun 12:00post reply

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True, a single user ID could be horribly intrusive. Plus, how would people make smurf accounts?



Isn't that what family sharing plans are for? Besides, you just make a new account for smurfing; it just will be a new account that isn't linked to anything else.



As for Strive's sales, Steam records a peak concurrent user count of 31,156 players around launch day. The daily peak has since dipped to around 16-19k players.

In comparison:
Dragon Ball FighterZ: all-time peak 44,303 three years ago; current daily peaks 1.4-2.6k
Mortal Kombat 11: all-time peak 35,147 two years ago; current daily peaks 2.3-2.7k
Tekken 7: all-time peak 18,966 four years ago; current daily peak 5-11k
Street Fighter V: all-time peak 14,783 five years ago; current daily peak 3k
GranBlue Fantasy Versus: all-time peak 5,287 fifteen months ago; current daily peaks 129-142


A few years ago Valve went out of its way to block the methods that other sites could use to get pretty accurate Steam sales estimates. Now such sites have to use fairly inaccurate methods. Playtracker estimates around 100k-210k people on Steam own Strive, while Steam Spy estimates it to be 200k-500k people.





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"Re(8):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Mon 21 Jun 19:39post reply

Crossplay is ass. PC players should stay in their own hellhole. Ha ha ha, I kid, but seriously folks... I hate crossplay. Anyone care for a SFV farewell party THIS weekend?







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"Re(9):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Tue 22 Jun 01:53post reply

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Unthinkable! MMC_Lagfest has been a weird mix of PC and PS players since the beginning to ensure we get the hottest lag straight off the grill. Besides, without crushing lag, how else will I keep explaining my inexcusable losses?

I've been busy, but I definitely want to host a celebration when Akira (and Oro, if only for Iggy's amusement) releases later this summer.





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"Re(10):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Tue 22 Jun 21:52post reply

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I've been busy, but I definitely want to host a celebration when Akira (and Oro, if only for Iggy's amusement) releases later this summer.

Hey, I like Oro too. (Seriously, in 3S I use Oro, Hugo, and Q.)

Ha ha ha... but seriously, any of you folks pick up strive PS?







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"Re(2):Re(10):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Wed 23 Jun 18:28post reply

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Ha ha ha... but seriously, any of you folks pick up strive PS?

The last time I bought a Sony console was the Vita (only because Scarlet Grace was on there), so not me!
I'm playing the most braindead character (Leo) in the most braindead way possible anyway, so it will probably save me some embarrassment at least.







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"Re(3):Re(10):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Thu 24 Jun 07:40post reply

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A few years ago Valve went out of its way to block the methods that other sites could use to get pretty accurate Steam sales estimates. Now such sites have to use fairly inaccurate methods. Playtracker estimates around 100k-210k people on Steam own Strive, while Steam Spy estimates it to be 200k-500k people.


Good grief, with that great a variance they might as well wait until they can figure out a better tracking method.

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Ha ha ha... but seriously, any of you folks pick up strive PS?
The last time I bought a Sony console was the Vita (only because Scarlet Grace was on there), so not me!
I'm playing the most braindead character (Leo) in the most braindead way possible anyway, so it will probably save me some embarrassment at least.


I've always played GG in the "wrong" way. But now that Strive has streamlined everything you have to play the game correctly to get anywhere. I'm holding off on Strive until they add a few patches to the game engine and I can go back to stupidly flying around the screen hitting buttons.







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"Re(4):Re(10):Lagfast Saturday?" , posted Thu 24 Jun 10:35post reply

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Good grief, with that great a variance they might as well wait until they can figure out a better tracking method.



I wouldn't be surprised if the sites that report physical sales data aren't much better. Sites that have been treated as trusted and accurate sources for decades.

The big problem is that publishers don't want such data to be freely available to the public, for a number of reasons. And without enough accurate sales data, how can an outsider improve or even just prove their methods of estimating sales data?







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"Other Hibiki" , posted Sun 11 Jul 04:49post reply

FYI, this month's arcade banner in SF5 is a reference to Ran Hibiki. Enjoy it, since that's the only reference to Ran you're going to get in the Reiwa Era, or probably the 21st century as a whole.







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"Justice For Akira" , posted Wed 4 Aug 12:36post reply

Akira looks amazing, I was wondering how they'd translate her 3D moves and they did an incredible job. Her gameplay showcase was one big pitch reel for Rival Schools 3, and I hope Capcom makes it happen.

Oro had some cool stuff too but I'm not interested in the hermit so I'll leave it for others to discuss.

As for discount Steve Fox Luke, if this is what the future of SF holds then I'll gladly take a time machine instead. At least he looks like a fighter instead of the forgettable twig known as Shun'ei.







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"Re(1):Justice For Akira" , posted Wed 4 Aug 12:57:post reply

I can feal the justice burning in my heart! We must most certainly have a Lagfest on the weekend of August 20-22! Mark your calendars for HEROIC HIGH SCHOOL ACTION now. EDT evenings/Japan mornings? Any PDT?

Akira's face is a little odd, but we get Edge AND Gan in the background, and a Daigo two-platooon tag-team special? YOU BET.

Tournament mode: uhhhhh was this even in there before? I feel like they talked about this years ago but it never happened. Maybe we can finally have the MMC Lagfest dojo challenge other dojos?!

Turtling: it's not just for Guile anymore! I'm going to make sure Iggy reinstalls SFV just to play as Oro, with or without animated nuts per SFIII's always-dubious (to me) legacy.

Luke...? Are, are they trying for a redo on poor boring Abel by making him sound like Ken?





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"Re(2):Justice For Akira" , posted Wed 4 Aug 18:12:post reply

I'm sure Luke as the hero of SF6 will a future as bright as Alex the only real hero of SF3!

Snark aside, and as ugly as Luke is, I am relieved to have a new character here instead of some out-of-place cameo or (worse) a guest from Tekken, God of War or Fortnite. And Oro and Akira look nice.
Hearing the opening start when she's low on life in her stage made me shed manly tears of burning friendship. And her maid outfit from the event in Seishunnikki is just great. I love that they're really taking a Smash Bros approach to this cameo and try to incorporate as much as the original game in her.





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"Re(3):Justice For Akira" , posted Wed 4 Aug 20:37post reply

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I'm sure Luke as the hero of SF6 will a future as bright as Alex the only real hero of SF3!

Snark aside, and as ugly as Luke is, I am relieved to have a new character here instead of some out-of-place cameo or (worse) a guest from Tekken, God of War or Fortnite. And Oro and Akira look nice.
Hearing the opening start when she's low on life in her stage made me shed manly tears of burning friendship. And her maid outfit from the event in Seishunnikki is just great. I love that they're really taking a Smash Bros approach to this cameo and try to incorporate as much as the original game in her.



To be honest, I really like Luke. I was kinda hoping the final character (and possible SFVI protagonist) would be a Taekwondo fighter (a more orthodox Taekwondo fighter, unlike Juri), but a MMA fighter is cool, too. I'm not sure if I like the idea of him having projectiles (after all, MMA is all about being close to the opponent to fight), but he's a cool design. This time, Capcom made the right choice.

Akira and Oro look great, too. Hopefully SFVI will have more Rival Schools characters; the sports team would probably feel out of place in Street Fighter, but I think characters like Tiffany, Boman and Edge would feel at home (Roy and Batsu's team, too, but these four would maybe feel redundant - then again, in a game with so many shotos, why not add one or two more if they're interesting characters?).





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"Re(3):Justice For Akira" , posted Thu 5 Aug 02:48post reply

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I'm certain Alex and Abel are already saving a space on the bench for Luke. Ed's currently shuffling off the field to that bench, having already been replaced as the "blue-eyed boy who represents the future of SF" in his debut game.

But enough of the future footnote that is Luke, let's get to the pretty people. Oro and Akira benefitted from coming later in the game's life since they seem to share the design philosophy of being able to do everything. First, all their moves seem to be able to connect; even Oro's command throw can be a combo ender. Even their jumping looks fun. Oro's double jump looks hilariously annoying. Also, while I wasn't certain what would make anyone step away from Karin to try out the newest rekka character, Akira's ability to hose people down with a fireball on her jump in might do the trick, never mind her ability to launch and juggle helpless opponents. These two look to be a hoot.

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I can feal the justice burning in my heart! We must most certainly have a Lagfest on the weekend of August 20-22! Mark your calendars for HEROIC HIGH SCHOOL ACTION now. EDT evenings/Japan mornings? Any PDT?

We're most certainly going to have to have some Geriatric Mutant Ninja Turtle action in the not too distant future. Get ready to lag!





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"Fluke Luke" , posted Thu 5 Aug 04:10post reply

Unpopular opinion, but I feel if Luke is supposed to be "the future of SF", then it's going to be a very bleak future indeed. This opinion echoes a lot of what's been said online.

What irritates me is the fact they devs could have had a character who represented a country that has yet to appear in the franchise, but they chose yet another stereotyped American design, and another blonde-haired character. It seems the devs favor Japan and American nationalities. What happened to the "World Warrior" aspect the franchise was known for? It's such a shame. Total unoriginality.

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"Re(4):Justice For Akira" , posted Thu 5 Aug 04:17post reply

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I'm sure Luke as the hero of SF6 will a future as bright as Alex the only real hero of SF3!

I'm certain Alex and Abel are already saving a space on the bench for Luke. Ed's currently shuffling off the field to that bench, having already been replaced as the "blue-eyed boy who represents the future of SF" in his debut game.

But enough of the future footnote that is Luke, let's get to the pretty people. Oro and Akira benefitted from coming later in the game's life since they seem to share the design philosophy of being able to do everything. First, all their moves seem to be able to connect; even Oro's command throw can be a combo ender. Even their jumping looks fun. Oro's double jump looks hilariously annoying. Also, while I wasn't certain what would make anyone step away from Karin to try out the newest rekka character, Akira's ability to hose people down with a fireball on her jump in might do the trick, never mind her ability to launch and juggle helpless opponents. These two look to be a hoot.

I can feal the justice burning in my heart! We must most certainly have a Lagfest on the weekend of August 20-22! Mark your calendars for HEROIC HIGH SCHOOL ACTION now. EDT evenings/Japan mornings? Any PDT?
We're most certainly going to have to have some Geriatric Mutant Ninja Turtle action in the not too distant future. Get ready to lag!



Actually, I think Luke may be a little luckier than Alex and Abel; while they were heavier characters with focus on grappling, Luke seems to be a more standard SF character, easier to get used to, with projectiles, uppercuts and all. Many casual players may end up liking him, which was harder to do with Alex and Abel.

Of course, it may be a different story regarding pro-tournament players. Then again, I'm not even sure which characters are liked by them nowadays, and if I remember correctly, even Ryu and Chun-Li were largely ignored by them at some moment in SFV's lifespan.





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I think Ryu and Ken have been top 3 in usage for every month of SFV's existence!
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Hearing the opening start when she's low on life in her stage made me shed manly tears of burning friendship.
Oh my god, I did not watch all the way through and missed this the first time!! You'd better believe that it was house policy that we watched allllll the way through Bitou Isao's Atsuki Kodou/Burning Heartbeat every single time we started up Justice Gakuen, and that we sang the entire thing while cosplaying as Daigo and Hayato in front of the whole audience of one of the vanishingly small number of anime conventions I went to as a kid! This burning heartbeat forever/I'll never forget the meaning of these tears....
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I'm certain Alex and Abel are already saving a space on the bench for Luke.
Who? Despite being the topic of the sentence I literally forgot who Alex and Abel were for a second, and I look forward to similar for Luke, even if we do eventually end up with Blond Fighter VI to follow Blond Fighter V. But like Freeter said, it will have been worth it because SFV offered a proof of concept for another Justice Gakuen game. If we're reallllly lucky, SFVI's starting cast will be Justice Gakuen 3 just the way SFV's starting cast was SF Zero 4.

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"Re(4):Justice For Akira" , posted Thu 5 Aug 15:01post reply

The Muscle Bomber references in Luke's moves are driving me batty. Could this actually be an updated version of Lucky Colt (aka "Gunloc")? The names are about as similar as Alexei (aka "Biff") and Alex, and they share two of his main signature moves.

Oh well, I think I can speak for everyone when I say FINALLY, A BLONDE CHARACTER IN SF5. We can all rest easy now.

Regardless, Akira is coming and I'm still perfectly satisfied with that.







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"Re(5):Justice For Akira" , posted Thu 5 Aug 22:33post reply

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The Muscle Bomber references in Luke's moves are driving me batty. Could this actually be an updated version of Lucky Colt (aka "Gunloc")? The names are about as similar as Alexei (aka "Biff") and Alex, and they share two of his main signature moves.



I wonder about that as well. Between his dog tags, the way he's tatted up to look like a douchey Captain America and his talking about needing to surpass someone makes me wonder if he's connected to Guile or Nash. Luke may be like Rufus in that he's not 100% from Muscle Bomber but you can see the connection if you squint.

Now that I think about it, what is it about Luke's moves that makes him compatible with both SF5 and SF6?







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"Re(6):Justice For Akira" , posted Thu 5 Aug 23:54post reply

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Now that I think about it, what is it about Luke's moves that makes him compatible with both SF5 and SF6?



I don't know if it helps towards answering your question. But I thought it was strange how some of his moves hit like punches yet they are telegraphed from some distance. They are acting like projectiles/hadoukens but they don't seem to be work like standard SF projectiles. I'm still not sure how they work.





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"Re(7):Justice For Akira" , posted Fri 6 Aug 07:23post reply

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I don't know if it helps towards answering your question. But I thought it was strange how some of his moves hit like punches yet they are telegraphed from some distance. They are acting like projectiles/hadoukens but they don't seem to be work like standard SF projectiles. I'm still not sure how they work.


I wonder if Luke is going to play more like Laura or Makoto where they have moves designed to get in on the opponent rather than the fireball/uppercut game of Ryu and Ken. The fireball spam v-trigger in the trailer looked neat but I suspect it will be like Sagat's big ball where it's only used for chip or combo enders.

I'll be annoyed if Makoto has to sit out SF6 as well due to this rooster-headed doofus but we shall see.





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"Re(1):Fluke Luke" , posted Fri 6 Aug 16:31post reply

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What happened to the "World Warrior" aspect the franchise was known for? It's such a shame. Total unoriginality.


This.

Street Fighter has had a rough patch since Street Fighter 3, and I say this as someone who loved Street Fighter 3 back in the arcade. Street Fighter 3 ventured away from the obvious World Warrior design aesthetic and dove into more of an esoteric story aesthetic.

Street Fighter 4 cashed all the nostalgia chips with the initial roster just being Street Fighter 2 again for everybody that slept on seeing SF characters in polygon form in Street Fighter EX series.

My feeling toward many of the newcomers is that they were uninteresting versions of old characters. I guess this is how some people felt about SF3, but SF4 didn't have the benefit of a stunning team of insane talent putting on a 2D animation clinic for video games. So the SF4 characters were boring, on top of being tremendously ugly looking.

Hakan is pure gold. A visually unique and interesting take on a cultural fighting style - back to the emphasis of WORLD WARRIOR.

Street Fighter 5 suffers a similar fate to SF4 visually, where I'm largely uninterested in it's continuation of the odious visual style of Street Fighter 4. This is the model of the old expression, "polishing a turd."

At least once I got past the visuals, the game speed and feel felt like Street Fighter. It didn't have that odd gravity of SF4 and the constant interruptions of time wasting micro-cinematic attacks during matches. I say this as someone who hated the amount of time Street Fighter EX wasted with normal throw animations, much less Super / Ultra moves.

Overall I'd say my favorite SF5 newcomers are Menat and G. Both do something right in terms of re-purposing the familiar, or just being so bombastically bizarre they could only exist in Street Fighter world (G). Although similar to my Fang complaint, a lot of the whimsy and flourish of G is diminished by the visual style of the game. I feel as though it's time for Capcom to abandon the classic 2D aesthetics (Capcom Design Works) of Street Fighter visuals, and craft something better suited to the output they produce (or subcontract out to be produced).

Ono era Street Fighter games are defined by the sheer lifelessness of them for me. Nothing about them is as visually impactful as Street Fighter 2 was, going from playing arcade games with small, limited animation sprites, to big bold player sprites in Street Fighter 2. Then Street Fighter Alpha and Street Fighter 3 series just existing as the talented teams at Capcom keeping 2D animation alive via game sprites.

Ono era is submitting to the tyranny of the polygon, and not bringing it to heel as Arc System Works did.

Capcom ought to be more deliberate in their future creations, and tread carefully between narrative characters and World Warrior style characters. I believe there can be a balance, but the absolute worst thing you can do in Street Fighter is be boring.

Just a cursory web search to compliment my plea for a Mongolian Wrestler (look at this visually rich martial arts culture and tell me Capcom of old couldn't mine here for gold) added to the cast turns up Dambe and Bokator. I'm sure there are so many more out there that could be added.

That doesn't mean we need to base everything off of every esoteric fighting style, if it's not particularly distinct, then they could do like Street Fighter 2 and borrow liberally from the movies, manga, and anime of the era. I'd like some homage characters for - Bolo Yeung, Sonny Chiba, Steven Seagal (ignoring his real world nonsense), Sammo Hung, and others. Note, homage - not rip-offs as evidenced by Lei Wulong being Jackie Chan until Namco was apparently told to knock it off and now Lei is just a lame derivative character instead of being the Jackie Chan rip-off in Tekken.

Mine other Capcom games of the era. I love Final Fight, and wish Carlos the Ninja would get the respect he deserves; but Saturday Night Slam Masters is sitting there waiting to be put to use. . .

Expansion of the roster by pursuing the inevitable future as well. There are several family men in the Street Fighter series. Pass the reigns to Mel Masters, Amy (Guile's daughter), Datta, or one of Hakan's daughters (maximum waifu-bux to be cashed in there if they set it far enough in the future and have a female Turkish oil wrestler).

In summary, new characters on the roster aren't replacing anybody. They should be added to co-exist and compliment the current characters; but at the end of the day the series has always been the Ryu and Ken show from Street Fighter 1 days (excluding boss and non-playable characters of that entry).

An inspired team would need to make a concerted effort to knock it out of the park. Leave the losers on the cutting room floor.

This may be controversial opinion, but I don't feel like time should be wasted on re-inventing the fan favorite characters in sequels. Devote that effort to the new characters, and just bring over the old characters. Then polish them up, but focus on making new awesome characters. So much nostalgia is placed on Street Fighter 2, but those same folks forget only Ryu, Ken, and Sagat were returning characters. Everybody else was a new weirdo at that time. New characters can work. They just need to be captivating!

Sadly I feel as if Street Fighter is lost. Street Fighter V is firmly in the soulless INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY state. Which is why new characters are so uninspired, game models vary so wildly, more regurgitation of decades old music, and we're back to box art for Japan and hideous steroid monsters for the West. Sorry, I tried to dig up the name of the American artist responsible for defacing Street Fighter V, but I couldn't damn well dig it up. He's not a bad artist, just tone deaf (although that may be more the fault of American culture) - like hiring a ska band to play at your grandparents funeral (and they weren't a rude boy or rude girl).

Street Fighter 4 at least resulted in an okay artbook with Ikeno and Akiman's artwork carrying the load. I don't think a product of that sort exists for SF5, although I haven't looked since it's such a mess. I miss the days of looking forward to Capcom art (purchasing the art books for titles I never played because I loved that art team). Now Bengus is apparently phoning it in for an easy paycheck (Street Fighter 5 is the Wings to his previous Beatles tier work), Capcom USA is letting their fanfic branch in Canada produce ugly derivative art for the games, and don't get me started on those abominations on the Character Guides. BARF! </River City Ransom>

So we may be cursed moving forward, unless a new team comes along with passion. Sort of how nostalgia for comic books fueled creative artists and writers to produce the inspired comic material of the 70's and 80's that are some of the defining works of the medium.

There's got to be a Cannon Bros over in Japan who have yet to infiltrate Capcom. Give some skilled and passionate fans the reigns and let them create something breathtaking.

I hate not loving Street Fighter, and being forced to endure 5-10 years between underwhelming entries.

I'd be up for scrubbing up matches if my schedule permits. Haven't played in months (non-portability of my CFN user ID means any progress made on PS4 is inacessible on PC), but that never stopped me before. It's like riding a bike - it a fist. :p





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"Re(2):Fluke Luke" , posted Fri 6 Aug 18:52post reply

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What happened to the "World Warrior" aspect the franchise was known for? It's such a shame. Total unoriginality.

Eh.

Bold for the nationalities new to the franchise.

SF4 added 1 Mexican, 2 US , 1 French, 1 Korean, 1 Turkish, 1 Russian, 2 Japanese (if you want to count Oni), and 2 Mysterians (Viper and Seth).

SF5 added 1 Canadian, 2 Japanese (3 if you count Kage), 1 Russian, 1 Brazilian, 2 US, 1 Egyptian and 1 Arabic.
The issue is with the Mysterians (Ed, FANG, Falke, G, Necalli). If you assign them to their inferred nationalities however, that's 1 US, 1 Thai, 1 German, 1 Alien and 1 Aztec (or Mexican if you want to play Civilization).

Compare with SFZero:
4 US, 7 Japanese, 1 Italian, 1 Alien (Ingrid), 1 German and 1 Mexican if you count Juni and Juli.

I think the franchise is fine on this aspect.





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"Re(3):Fluke Luke" , posted Fri 6 Aug 20:04post reply

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What happened to the "World Warrior" aspect the franchise was known for? It's such a shame. Total unoriginality.
Eh.

Bold for the nationalities new to the franchise.

SF4 added 1 Mexican, 2 US , 1 French, 1 Korean, 1 Turkish, 1 Russian, 2 Japanese (if you want to count Oni), and 2 Mysterians (Viper and Seth).

SF5 added 1 Canadian, 2 Japanese (3 if you count Kage), 1 Russian, 1 Brazilian, 2 US, 1 Egyptian and 1 Arabic.
The issue is with the Mysterians (Ed, FANG, Falke, G, Necalli). If you assign them to their inferred nationalities however, that's 1 US, 1 Thai, 1 German, 1 Alien and 1 Aztec (or Mexican if you want to play Civilization).

Compare with SFZero:
4 US, 7 Japanese, 1 Italian, 1 Alien (Ingrid), 1 German and 1 Mexican if you count Juni and Juli.

I think the franchise is fine on this aspect.



Isn't Viper from the USA? The US flag appears when you choose her, and she's even an undercover CIA agent...

But yes, I agree with your point. Maybe the complaint should be in terms of how many newcomers have fictional styles (like Menat and Rashid) rather than real-life martial arts (like Laura and soon-to-be-released Luke), instead of how many nationalities are being represented in the series.





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"Re(2):Fluke Luke" , posted Sat 7 Aug 01:30post reply

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Sadly I feel as if Street Fighter is lost. Street Fighter V is firmly in the soulless INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY state.

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Because it is... That's exactly what it is nowadays...

And to be honest, I don't think anybody "feels" passionate or inspired towards anything anymore. With the current state of the world and all.... I feel lately that the human race is exhausted.

Last night in a drunken stupor I downloaded SFV Champion Edition with the Season V pass. Haven't touched the game since 2018 so I can't wait to pull out my fighting stick tonight and check if it even feels like a Street Fighter game at this point.





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"Re(3):Fluke Luke" , posted Sat 7 Aug 02:38post reply

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But yes, I agree with your point. Maybe the complaint should be in terms of how many newcomers have fictional styles (like Menat and Rashid) rather than real-life martial arts (like Laura and soon-to-be-released Luke), instead of how many nationalities are being represented in the series.


Even then, has SF ever been a grounded game? Sure, some of the moves are based on realistic moves - or at least the realism that was found in whatever movies and manga the creators were reading at the time. But even SF2 had Blanka balls and psycho crushers. Take it from me, reality is overrated.

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Last night in a drunken stupor I downloaded SFV Champion Edition with the Season V pass. Haven't touched the game since 2018 so I can't wait to pull out my fighting stick tonight and check if it even feels like a Street Fighter game at this point.



Honestly, it's my favorite SF since Alpha 2. SF5 was an unplayable disaster at launch but they eventually managed to right the ship.







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"Re(4):Fluke Luke" , posted Sat 7 Aug 03:03post reply

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Honestly, it's my favorite SF since Alpha 2. SF5 was an unplayable disaster at launch but they eventually managed to right the ship.



I think final season has turned SFV into an actually decent game, but I've been bagging on SFV as my ancestors did and I'm not about to change.







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"Re(5):Fluke Luke" , posted Sat 7 Aug 04:45post reply

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I think final season has turned SFV into an actually decent game, but I've been bagging on SFV as my ancestors did and I'm not about to change.


SF5 can't be good until SF6 comes out and everyone declares the new game to be the worst thing ever since the last worst thing ever.







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"Re(6):Fluke Luke" , posted Sat 7 Aug 06:27post reply

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I think final season has turned SFV into an actually decent game, but I've been bagging on SFV as my ancestors did and I'm not about to change.

SF5 can't be good until SF6 comes out and everyone declares the new game to be the worst thing ever since the last worst thing ever.



SFV is a game that is so profoundly terrible that it has convinced people that the terrifically horrible SF4 was a good game!

SF6 will be such an astonishing abomination that that it will make people look back on SFV fondly, even in spite of SFV being such an abhorrence!

I can only imagine what a hellish visitation SF7 will be like!





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"Re(4):Fluke Luke" , posted Sun 8 Aug 20:13post reply

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SF5 was an unplayable disaster at launch but they eventually managed to right the ship.


Pretty much! While I'd RATHER be playing Strive, if anyone wants to play some SFV again for a change of pace I'm down. I'm on summer vacation anyway.





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"Re(3):Fluke Luke" , posted Thu 12 Aug 08:07post reply

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What happened to the "World Warrior" aspect the franchise was known for? It's such a shame. Total unoriginality.
Eh.

Bold for the nationalities new to the franchise.

SF4 added 1 Mexican, 2 US , 1 French, 1 Korean, 1 Turkish, 1 Russian, 2 Japanese (if you want to count Oni), and 2 Mysterians (Viper and Seth).

SF5 added 1 Canadian, 2 Japanese (3 if you count Kage), 1 Russian, 1 Brazilian, 2 US, 1 Egyptian and 1 Arabic.
The issue is with the Mysterians (Ed, FANG, Falke, G, Necalli). If you assign them to their inferred nationalities however, that's 1 US, 1 Thai, 1 German, 1 Alien and 1 Aztec (or Mexican if you want to play Civilization).

Compare with SFZero:
4 US, 7 Japanese, 1 Italian, 1 Alien (Ingrid), 1 German and 1 Mexican if you count Juni and Juli.

I think the franchise is fine on this aspect.



Good stats there Iggy, but if you compare the insane amounts of Japanese and American characters, these stats just don't justify the lack of international diversity that is presented. There's just way too many of the former nationalities to make the franchise kind of watered-down.

I remember being so excited when Menat came into SFV, not only was she a great design, but she was Egyptian, another new nationality to the World Warrior ethos. Which is what the designers need to get back to for future games.

We need some Irish, Australia and more African characters introduced into the SF series. Though I'm not on the side of wokeness, doing this would be beneficial and exciting to the franchise, and perhaps players from those areas can find a character they can be proud of that represents their homeland.

Pencilero, you bring up some excellent points. In regards to what you mentioned about Bengus, I wasn't too much a fan of his SFV art in the story mode. It seemed to me it was done in a rush and ill-inspired, for what as you mentioned just for a paycheck.







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"Re(4):Fluke Luke" , posted Thu 12 Aug 12:46post reply

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We need some Irish, Australia and more African characters introduced into the SF series. Though I'm not on the side of wokeness, doing this would be beneficial and exciting to the franchise, and perhaps players from those areas can find a character they can be proud of that represents their homeland.



I'd also like Capcom to realize that "Western" (Caucasian, Japanese characters associated with Western aspects, etc) characters don't have to be blond. While it seems a silly complaint, hair color choices do make the overall roster look less varied.





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"Re(5):Fluke Luke" , posted Thu 12 Aug 14:16post reply

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We need some Irish, Australia and more African characters introduced into the SF series. Though I'm not on the side of wokeness, doing this would be beneficial and exciting to the franchise, and perhaps players from those areas can find a character they can be proud of that represents their homeland.


I'd also like Capcom to realize that "Western" (Caucasian, Japanese characters associated with Western aspects, etc) characters don't have to be blond. While it seems a silly complaint, hair color choices do make the overall roster look less varied.



Truth. I think the designers are clueless and rely on some Hollywood stereotype.





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"Re(5):Fluke Luke" , posted Thu 12 Aug 15:35post reply

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I'd also like Capcom to realize that "Western" (Caucasian, Japanese characters associated with Western aspects, etc) characters don't have to be blond. While it seems a silly complaint, hair color choices do make the overall roster look less varied.


This was a pretty hilarious meme of SF5.

The argument for "World Warrior" is less a checklist, and more - what unique fighting styles can we use in this fighting game?

I suspect SF5 blonde roster is an accident of negligence / incompetence, and not a subversive Aryan plot by Capcom.

The following is a more general missive not prompted by Baines post.

I hammered out two long missives that devolved into meditations on fighting games, the current pandemic, and deep depression some people may be experiencing. Rather than expose nerves, I'll say this:

Street Fighter V began development, and tripped over it's feet into a pre-pandemic world.

Guilty Gear Strive evolved through a pandemic era world (if anybody has insight on what percentage of development was complete in 2019 I'm all ears), and delivered a much more competent product at launch than the genre figurehead with the corporate backing of Sony.

Yeah.

There's a global pandemic in progress; and I am not unaware. Rather than mull it over, and suffocate it, I'll just put it out there - the pandemic has been intensely stressful and I see no end in sight. Mentally and emotionally I have not been this low in some time - perhaps my life.

Not having the luxury or privilege of working from home, losing my new job at the start of the lockdowns in 2020, and sidelining my plans to pursue a better tomorrow - still on hold. Everybody is losing time, but when you're behind the eight-ball, that lost time comes at a heavy cost.

And that's why beautiful art matters. It helps to uplift and inspire the injured soul. I find considerable solace in the buddhist hued lyrics of Armor Clad faith in this trying times.

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I'm a fool, I know nothing
I take the role of a silly clown
But I won't turn my back on life
I'm a fool, maybe I'm worthless
But this world created my faith
So all I can do is stay hopeful and pray


I recognize that at the end of the day everything a company sells me is a product, but it doesn't need to be insulting in that admission.





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Not having the luxury or privilege of working from home, losing my new job at the start of the lockdowns in 2020, and sidelining my plans to pursue a better tomorrow - still on hold. Everybody is losing time, but when you're behind the eight-ball, that lost time comes at a heavy cost.

And that's why beautiful art matters. It helps to uplift and inspire the injured soul. I find considerable solace in the buddhist hued lyrics of Armor Clad faith in this trying times.


Hang in there, surviving these times will make you stronger, because you've survived them. Best of wishes.

And I agree, beautiful art does matter. All the arts, whether it's music, drawing or dancing, are essential for our souls.





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Though I'm not on the side of wokeness...



You know, I try to stay fairly alert, myself. There is some absolutely brutal okizeme out there, and no shortage of tricky mix-ups to put you on your back in the first place.

I'm sure we can all agree that the current balance is less than perfect. Sure, one can argue that pretty much everyone has a chance, but let's not pretend it's even odds on every matchup. If we're going to talk fairness, I think that understanding the underlying game mechanics is crucial. Without that, you're not going to be able to tell who's winning, who's losing, or why.

You can still have fun if you remain oblivious to all this, but odds are that you'll eventually end up getting clowned on by someone that knows the game better than you. My advice is to grab a cup of coffee and try to keep those eyes open. We're all part of this same community.

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Not having the luxury or privilege of working from home, losing my new job at the start of the lockdowns in 2020, and sidelining my plans to pursue a better tomorrow - still on hold. Everybody is losing time, but when you're behind the eight-ball, that lost time comes at a heavy cost.



I do not want to sound flippant here, but let me say that I hope your metaphorical V-gauge is building and that you can use your V-trigger to help turn things around. As a famous announcer in another game once said, sharpen your fangs. It's not the end.





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pretty much everyone has a chance, but let's not pretend it's even odds on every matchup.
Heheheh, this is way more clever than my Writing Thread stuff. Anyway, it's a pretty rough okizeme world out there whatever one's philosophy, so I totally sympathize with the desire for our hobby to feel a little more uplifting and beautiful even if it's commercial art! Just imagine the excitement if something beautiful like SFZero 2 or Justice Gakuen came out for the first time amidst a pandemic! I can understand the energy around Strive.

On that note, while Headmaster Iggy is away since civilized Europe actually goes on vacation in August, anyone up for a preview Lagfest with Akira and Oro next week, Aug 20/21 or 21/22? Name your timezone and good times and we can make it happen!





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"Re(2):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Sat 14 Aug 22:24post reply

This pandemic has been a physical and mental drag on everyone. I do hope everyone is doing okay, since this has been rough and relentless. As for me, as long as there are clever things out there like Mosquiton's post I can keep my spirits up.

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On that note, while Headmaster Iggy is away since civilized Europe actually goes on vacation in August, anyone up for a preview Lagfest with Akira and Oro next week, Aug 20/21 or 21/22? Name your timezone and good times and we can make it happen!


I feel bad for missing out on the last few invitations sent out by Red Falcon for lag battles (the invitations, naturally, were sent out on expensive stationary sealed with red wax.) However, I'm not going to miss the siren call of new characters. This invitational should feature me being even more hilariously inept as I try to learn characters mid-match and engage in plenty of "what does this button do?" tactics. Which outfit looks best on Akira? How badly will I get destroyed by Red Falcon's day-one Oro? Let me know when everyone is available so we can find out.





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"Re(3):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Sun 15 Aug 03:16post reply

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This pandemic has been a physical and mental drag on everyone. I do hope everyone is doing okay, since this has been rough and relentless. As for me, as long as there are clever things out there like Mosquiton's post I can keep my spirits up.

On that note, while Headmaster Iggy is away since civilized Europe actually goes on vacation in August, anyone up for a preview Lagfest with Akira and Oro next week, Aug 20/21 or 21/22? Name your timezone and good times and we can make it happen!

I feel bad for missing out on the last few invitations sent out by Red Falcon for lag battles (the invitations, naturally, were sent out on expensive stationary sealed with red wax.) However, I'm not going to miss the siren call of new characters. This invitational should feature me being even more hilariously inept as I try to learn characters mid-match and engage in plenty of "what does this button do?" tactics. Which outfit looks best on Akira? How badly will I get destroyed by Red Falcon's day-one Oro? Let me know when everyone is available so we can find out.



I'm down for a lag fest. It would be my first. My time zone is Mountain Standard Time in the US. What's the date and time so I can try and adjust. Mid day works for me, as I work at night.





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"Re(4):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Sun 15 Aug 09:47post reply

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I'm down for a lag fest. It would be my first. My time zone is Mountain Standard Time in the US. What's the date and time so I can try and adjust. Mid day works for me, as I work at night.



I'm in EST. I say set the date and time, anybody that can show up - do so.

Otherwise it's like herding cats trying to nail down what time works for everybody and adjusting the schedule non-stop. Set the date and time. Let us schedule for it.

Regular casuals in fighters would be nice. Picked up Strive on PC since it went on sale finally, and bought SF Anniversary Collection as well.

Going to try grabbing GBFvs on PC since everything is on very good sale. Even if the netcode was suspect, and I didn't click with the initial roster (was banking on Ladiva) and some of the mapped inputs that couldn't be replaced with normal inputs.





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"Re(2):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Sun 15 Aug 21:48post reply

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On that note, while Headmaster Iggy is away since civilized Europe actually goes on vacation in August, anyone up for a preview Lagfest with Akira and Oro next week, Aug 20/21 or 21/22? Name your timezone and good times and we can make it happen!


How about August 21st, 9:00 or 10:00 AM Japan time? I'll switch back over from Strive for a bit!







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"Re(3):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Mon 16 Aug 10:50post reply

Latest Akira gameplay trailer

Whoever is working on Akira and this trailer REALLY LOVES CAPCOM STUFF and it's great







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"Re(4):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Mon 16 Aug 23:00post reply

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Latest Akira gameplay trailer

Whoever is working on Akira and this trailer REALLY LOVES CAPCOM STUFF and it's great


It looks like Akira's dialogue still changes when her helmet is on. Someone was certainly sweating the details on Akira.

Also, I guess *someone* was worried about an adorable newcomer replacing them as the cute face of SF, because Sakura has a new head.







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"Re(5):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Tue 17 Aug 00:34post reply

Akira is the biggest love letter to an old series that Capcom has ever done, practically Sakurai levels of dedication. I really hope RS3 gets to happen instead of the cast getting lumped into the next SF.

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Also, I guess *someone* was worried about an adorable newcomer replacing them as the cute face of SF, because Sakura has a new head.



Meanwhile, everyone hates Ken because his ugly as sin model remains untouched.

Also, Ibuki's seiyuu for both regions has apparently been recast, possible hint that she'll be in SF6?







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"Re(6):Real world warriors + Lagfest??" , posted Tue 17 Aug 01:27post reply

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Also, Ibuki's seiyuu for both regions has apparently been recast, possible hint that she'll be in SF6?

Oooh, that's weird.
Does she appear in Akira or Oro's story mode? Maybe they couldn't get the previous seiyuu because everything was so last minute, and they had to hire a new one just for these scenes?
Strange that they would have the same issue for both languages, though... Except if there's some anime reference I'm missing like with R.Mika.







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"Lagfest: Burning Justice Edition" , posted Tue 17 Aug 03:44post reply

Get ready, fighters, it’s MADMAN GAKUEN: BURNING JUSTICE LAGFEST (preview)

Headmaster Iggy has gone on vacation missing and only the most heroic lagfest fighters can rescue him! So give Akira a spin, and ask yourself: “is my Burning Heartbeat blazing with sufficient justice compared with either of these magnificent legions of heroes who are united by fate?!”

Time: Aug. 20 (F) 9:00pm EDT / Aug. 21 (Sa) 10:00am Japan

Recommended Characters: Akira, Sakura, banchou Ryu, schoolgirl Chun Li, Ibuki, anyone else in a uniform, Oro (I guess)

Acceptable Stages: Rival Riverside, Kanzuki Beach

Dojo: Look up and join the Cafe dojo via CFN in case we can finally use it for cool things in tournament mode??

If you’re new, share your CFN here so I can invite you. We’ll do another soon if you can’t make the time.

WE’LL PROTECT OUR SCHOOLS!




PS boo on Sakura’s new face…but my god wait Akira’s story mode uses the same text boxes as the Nekketsu Seishun Nikki lifesim??!? They can do whatever they want!





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"Re(1):Lagfest: Burning Justice Edition" , posted Tue 17 Aug 07:00post reply

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Get ready, fighters, it’s MADMAN GAKUEN: BURNING JUSTICE LAGFEST (preview)

Headmaster Iggy has gone on vacation missing and only the most heroic lagfest fighters can rescue him! So give Akira a spin, and ask yourself: “is my Burning Heartbeat blazing with sufficient justice compared with either of these magnificent legions of heroes who are united by fate?!”

Time: Aug. 20 (F) 9:00pm EDT / Aug. 21 (Sa) 10:00am Japan

Recommended Characters: Akira, Sakura, banchou Ryu, schoolgirl Chun Li, Ibuki, anyone else in a uniform, Oro (I guess)

Acceptable Stages: Rival Riverside, Kanzuki Beach

Dojo: Look up and join the Cafe dojo via CFN in case we can finally use it for cool things in tournament mode??

If you’re new, share your CFN here so I can invite you. We’ll do another soon if you can’t make the time.

WE’LL PROTECT OUR SCHOOLS!




PS boo on Sakura’s new face…but my god wait Akira’s story mode uses the same text boxes as the Nekketsu Seishun Nikki lifesim??!? They can do whatever they want!



Aw, shucks! I'll be working. But I hope to join a lag fest one day!





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"Re(2):Lagfest: Burning Justice Edition" , posted Wed 18 Aug 04:18post reply

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Aw, shucks! I'll be working. But I hope to join a lag fest one day!


D'oh!

Well, hopefully they are marathon gamers (my buddy and I can play casuals for hours) and I can sneak in some matches after work. *fingers crossed*

Car repairs and opting to wait on a potential online patch forced me to wait on re-buying GranBlue Fantasy Versus (it's one of the handful of PS4 games I own). Hopefully the GB parent company doesn't turn this into a Sony PSN grade - "You missed our once in a console generation sale? Enjoy waiting until the platform is dead for the next sale MWAHAHAHAHAHA!" *stares angrily at Jeanne D'Arc digital edition*





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"Re(1):Lagfest: Burning Justice Edition" , posted Wed 18 Aug 08:47post reply

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Get ready, fighters, it’s MADMAN GAKUEN: BURNING JUSTICE LAGFEST (preview)

Headmaster Iggy has gone on vacation missing and only the most heroic lagfest fighters can rescue him! So give Akira a spin, and ask yourself: “is my Burning Heartbeat blazing with sufficient justice compared with either of these magnificent legions of heroes who are united by fate?!”

Time: Aug. 20 (F) 9:00pm EDT / Aug. 21 (Sa) 10:00am Japan

Recommended Characters: Akira, Sakura, banchou Ryu, schoolgirl Chun Li, Ibuki, anyone else in a uniform, Oro (I guess)

Acceptable Stages: Rival Riverside, Kanzuki Beach

Dojo: Look up and join the Cafe dojo via CFN in case we can finally use it for cool things in tournament mode??

If you’re new, share your CFN here so I can invite you. We’ll do another soon if you can’t make the time.

WE’LL PROTECT OUR SCHOOLS!




PS boo on Sakura’s new face…but my god wait Akira’s story mode uses the same text boxes as the Nekketsu Seishun Nikki lifesim??!? They can do whatever they want!



Aaahhh man I thought it was going to be a Project Justice or Riva Schools largest.





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"Re(1):Lagfest: Burning Justice Edition" , posted Wed 18 Aug 15:00:post reply



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Recommended Characters: Akira, Sakura, banchou Ryu, schoolgirl Chun Li, Ibuki, anyone else in a uniform, Oro (I guess)

Acceptable Stages: Rival Riverside, Kanzuki Beach

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"Akira-chan" , posted Fri 20 Aug 07:47post reply

I've really been enjoying using Akira so far. I like her mix-up game and she can keep am opponent guessing. So far, my win-lose ratio with her has been really good. Of course, with how badly the online handles in SFV, that could change.

I haven't bothered with Oro except in survival mode.





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"Re(1):Akira-chan" , posted Sat 21 Aug 10:20post reply

Just posting here, lobby's up.





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"Re(2):Akira-chan" , posted Sat 21 Aug 13:34post reply

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Just posting here, lobby's up.


Seriously, what the hell is Oro doing in his win screen pose? Does his turtle smell bad? Or is he flying off with a fart and he's going to hold his nose?







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"The Lagfest Times: Justice Edition" , posted Sat 21 Aug 15:16post reply

Thanks for the great games! Oro in his win pose sez: they hit the spot! Just in from the school newspaper club at Madman Gakuen: it’s the latest issue of the Hot-blooded Justice Lagfest Times, filled with brotherly love, burning justice, and high-flying gang violence.

There were masses of troubled youth from Gedo High School running around, including so many Akiras that everyone got exhausted trying to keep track. Some students seemed marginally interested in actual book learning, and the newly elected successor to the previous Iincho/Class President tried to bring some order.

However, locals report that an old man who just wanted to take his turtle for a walk was harassed by a local banchou and his sister. It’s too bad, because it’s an extremely well-rendered turtle. Hardworking local mechanics also learned the hard way that they are not necessarily on the same page as delinquent biker girls.

Meanwhile, an out-of-town sukeban under Ishmael’s command temporarily took control of Gedo’s gang.

Akira’s Justice Gakuen-style launcher is a great way to see all kinds of sights you never knew existed, though the most improbable sights were Akira’s maid cosplay from Nekketsu Seishun Nikki 2 and Daigo in a tracksuit (!!) to match Akira’s athletic wear.

Some students left campus for somewhere more exotic, though per top school reporter Juan’s headline, Teenager goes to space and gets crushed by a dictator. Rugal, better known as Hyo “Detestable Madness” Imawano, presided over 20+ wins, though the occasional heroic banchou came out on top.

In the end, it’s best to just let rowdy youth unwind at the beach, though I still wonder how Akira keeps her bike from getting rusted in the waves.





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"Re(1):The Lagfest Times: Justice Edition" , posted Sat 21 Aug 23:08post reply

Good times! I think the only reason we ended up on the space station was because Juan launched me that high. Taking damage from combos is one thing, but having Akira's punchy punch helplessly bounce you around 50 feet in the air is an entirely new sensation in SF5.





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"Re(2):The Lagfest Times: Justice Edition" , posted Fri 27 Aug 21:15:post reply

Honestly, I had a lot of fun too! It'd been a while since I'd played SFV and I had forgotten it can be a lot of fun when you're messing around with new charas.

Edit: Now, anyone for Strive? ww





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"Re(3):The Lagfest Times: Justice Edition" , posted Thu 9 Sep 08:59post reply

Sudden post! Anyone want to do an impromptu lag fest this coming weekend? Anyone who missed out last time?







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"Re(4):The Lagfest Times: Justice Edition" , posted Mon 13 Sep 23:28post reply

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Sudden post! Anyone want to do an impromptu lag fest this coming weekend? Anyone who missed out last time?


Delayed response! Sorry about not being able to make it, things are looking to be a bit crazy on my end for the rest of the year. Hopefully I can make it to the next invitational.







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"Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Edition" , posted Tue 14 Sep 12:57:post reply

We finally tracked down Headmaster Iggy, and it turned out he hadn't been brainwashed by ninjas, he was just at the (Kanzuki?) beach! That's right, it's:

MADMAN GAKUEN: BURNING JUSTICE LAGFEST 2 - HEADMASTER IGGY EDITION!

So don't make Akira cry, and instead charm her with your fighting skills this weekend. Are you at least as enthusiastic as someone (hello!) who just spent actual money on an auction for a 1997 arcade flyer that says, "[This cabinet] Operating with Burning Vigor"?! If you are operating with similar vigor, bust out your student ID, steal your brother's if you have to, and come on over! We may or may not change the time last-minute, but you're just gonna have to figure that out!

Time (Updated): Sept. 18 (Sat) 11am EDT / Sept. 18 (Sat) 4pm UK / Sept. 18-19 (Sat/Sun) 24:00 Japan

Invited Characters: Only characters in school uniforms, track suits, or biker garb. I mean it this time!

Acceptable Stages: Rival Riverside, Kanzuki Beach, Kasugano Residence

PC mods to convert pointless characters into Daigo?: You bet your @$$!

Now, as proper Gedo High School students, we shall all sing our glorious school anthem (you DID memorize the lyrics, didn't you???) in honor of Akira and Daigo. ♫ The path on which a man must travel/Is dark and steep/This is the path of Gedo/ ♫





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"Re(1):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Edit" , posted Tue 14 Sep 21:13post reply

1時か...遅いね!
I'll try to make it. I refuse to wear tracksuits unless I can be beaten in to submission, however.







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"Re(2):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Edit" , posted Tue 14 Sep 23:09post reply

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1時か...遅いね!
I'll try to make it. I refuse to wear tracksuits unless I can be beaten in to submission, however.

Would it be easier for you if we had it 1 or 2 hours earlier? Would it be OK with everyone else? I don't think I have anything planned on the day (plus we can still join at different times I guess)







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"Re(2):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Edit" , posted Wed 15 Sep 00:36post reply

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I refuse to wear tracksuits unless I can be beaten in to submission, however.

Nonsense, we all know you’ll look great in a red tracksuit!

We can try to start an hour earlier if you can definitely do midnight! Much more beyond that will make it too early for other US regions.

Though actually, our only hope of beating Red “Detestable Madness” Falcon is probably to fight him while he’s unconscious like the kids do in Hayato’s ending.





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"Re(3):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Edit" , posted Wed 15 Sep 23:34post reply

I don't mind starting early, just let me know when we're starting so I can adjust my schedule accordingly.







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"Re(4):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Thu 16 Sep 10:39post reply

Tardy Counter/根性カウンター! Per Headmaster Iggy's directive, time updated above and below. ↑ ↓

Okay, Cafe gourmands, it's time to finally leave the cafeteria and join Akira and Daigo's gang at Gedo High School in a thrilling competition between rival schools on Saturday.

I don't wanna see anything that's not school or biker related! ...unless it involves helping the elderly, since we are also celebrating Oro.
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Time (Updated): Sept. 18 (Sat) 11am EDT / Sept. 18 (Sat) 4pm UK / Sept. 18-19 (Sat/Sun) 24:00 Japan

Invited Characters: Only characters in school uniforms, track suits, or biker garb. I mean it this time!

Acceptable Stages: Rival Riverside, Kanzuki Beach, Kasugano Residence

PC mods to convert pointless characters into Daigo?: You bet your @$$!

Now, as proper Gedo High School students, we shall all sing our glorious school anthem (you DID memorize the lyrics, didn't you???) in honor of Akira and Daigo. ♫ The path on which a man must travel/Is dark and steep/This is the path of Gedo/ ♫






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"Re(5):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Thu 16 Sep 18:05:post reply

You know, what we REALLY should be playing is ウルトラファイトだ!キャン太2/ Ultra Fight da! Kyanta 2, no joke. It's free on steam, too.





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"Re(6):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Fri 17 Sep 13:18post reply

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You know, what we REALLY should be playing is ウルトラファイトだ!キャン太2/ Ultra Fight da! Kyanta 2, no joke. It's free on steam, too.

Speaking of unlikely prospects, I just realized that poor Adon sure isn’t make it into this game. And SFV even has Two-P, of all people!

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"Re(7):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Fri 17 Sep 21:50post reply

It wasn't worth mentioning, but Cyber Akuma was announced a few days ago. He looks like Akuma with some cheap cyber doo-dads pasted onto his model, but that's the way Cyber Akuma has always looked so he's consistent if nothing else.

What is worth mentioning is that SF's fashionista Rose is getting a spiffy Ruby Heart outfit. This upcoming lagfest may be dedicated to high school hijinks but next time we're playing Marvel.





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"Re(6):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Sat 18 Sep 14:53post reply

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You know, what we REALLY should be playing is ウルトラファイトだ!キャン太2/ Ultra Fight da! Kyanta 2, no joke. It's free on steam, too.



Free you say?!

Downloading.





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"Re(7):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Sat 18 Sep 21:45post reply

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Speaking of unlikely prospects...


By "speaking of unlikely prospects" in terms of Kyanta2, I assume you mean we will "definitely be playing it".







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"Re(8):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Sat 18 Sep 23:49post reply

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Speaking of unlikely prospects...

By "speaking of unlikely prospects" in terms of Kyanta2, I assume you mean we will "definitely be playing it".

Hahaha let's try it??





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"Re(9):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mode" , posted Sun 19 Sep 00:30:post reply

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Hahaha let's try it??

www I'm seriously down for trying it one of these days, I laugh more than I have with any shitty fighter I've played since the 90s and it's really easy to pick up and play, so no joke, let's try it some time.





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"Re(10):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Iggy Mod" , posted Sun 19 Sep 00:49:post reply

wwww Apparently I can't beat laggy Akira with 'Gief. An inability to effectively meaty stuff is a real issue. ww

edit: random comment! A connection to the UK is laggy, obviously, but waaaayy better than I was expecting! Iggy, what sort of a connection do you have? It seems pretty good!





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"Re(2):Re(10):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Ig" , posted Sun 19 Sep 02:22post reply

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edit: random comment! A connection to the UK is laggy, obviously, but waaaayy better than I was expecting! Iggy, what sort of a connection do you have? It seems pretty good!

Was it? It was terrible for me! One moment it was OK, the other I was 1 second delayed or more... (which was probably for the best since I only remembered half of the moves).
It's standard broadband stuff. For some reason the super posh area where I live don't have fibre yet. Maybe it's old posh and old people don't need fast internet? We don't have Fox News here (yet)





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"Re(3):Re(10):Justice Lagfest 2: Headmaster Ig" , posted Sun 19 Sep 02:35post reply

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edit: random comment! A connection to the UK is laggy, obviously, but waaaayy better than I was expecting! Iggy, what sort of a connection do you have? It seems pretty good!
Was it? It was terrible for me! One moment it was OK, the other I was 1 second delayed or more... (which was probably for the best since I only remembered half of the moves).

Oh, is that so? Maybe previous experiences have warped my expectations. That was way better than what I was expecting from Europe, and better than players from China.







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"Lagfest Times: Nekketsu Seishun Nikki 3" , posted Sun 19 Sep 04:37post reply

Thanks everyone for today's SFV Nekketsu Seishun Nikki 3, especially Rugal for entering Midnight Bliss mode for a four-timezone, three-continent lagfest!

And thanks to you inspired geniuses, I was so happy to see not only Daigo and Akira, but also Roy, Kyosuke, Edge, and Kyoko! (Oh, and also Skullomania?!)

I was sad Hayato was on vacation, but Oro was a perfect stern-faced subsitute PE teacher (play ballll! where is Shoma?), and since every single character in the whole game wore their own tracksuit (yes, literally everyone, even the ones you forgot existed), it felt like the hot-blooded teacher was right there with us.

Things were rowdy around Gedo High School: schoolyard brawls with suspected assassins, rival sukeban appearing, lazy banchou slacking off, fights in the shower room, people cutting class for karaoke, mostly naked women pushing rivals off bridges, and exhibitionist men getting thrown off rooftops.

I'm not sure if the last straw was Akira's constant illegal bike parking, or the Kazamas punching President Lincoln in the nuts, but Kyoko had to instill discipline.

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"Re(1):Lagfest Times: Nekketsu Seishun Nikki 3" , posted Sun 19 Sep 07:53post reply

Thanks for the games everyone, it was fun! Special thanks to Maou for coordinating and chronicling the event.







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"Akira for president" , posted Tue 21 Sep 17:43post reply

So, that happened:
https://reporterre.net/La-candidate-masquee-Akira-s-invite-a-la-presidentielle-2022
A masked collective called Akira announced they will be candidate to the French presidential election in 2022. I don't think you can't be president if you are several people, but kudos to Capcom's marketing team for the effort I guess? Too bad they didn't find a skull-shaped helmet to go with the performance.





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"New Dojo Request." , posted Fri 24 Sep 06:33post reply

I FINALLY got a new gaming laptop (my first gaming computer in about 15 years) and got SFV for Steam.

Hey Maou, I sent a dojo request for "GekigangerPC" to the dojo. If you get the chance to approve it I would appreciate it.

I can use this laptop to get more consistent access to my ethernet cable and play online since my brothers also use the PS4. Will I use this opportunity to learn a new character? Probably not. I have been playing "Zangeif Fighter V" for 5 years now and don't plan on mixing it up. Maybe through in some Rashid or Abigail.







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"Re(1):New Dojo Request." , posted Fri 24 Sep 08:21post reply

Ah, I see you got the opening post directive "join the quad-continent Cafe dojo via CFN or be destroyed by Shadowloo!" Excellent!

Welcome back. Your first task, rather than mopping the dojo floors, is to figure out if we can now actually use it for something interesting like challenging other dojos via the poorly-explained new tournament mode. I'm sure I don't know!

Sorry we couldn't add you to the (only to be used for MMC chat) twitter conversation when you popped into lagfest a few weeks ago, since I just happened to see you! Boring Karin and Rashid can eat it, I'm always pleased to see Zangief, the true hero of SFV.





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"Re(2):New Dojo Request." , posted Fri 24 Sep 17:54post reply

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Welcome back. Your first task, rather than mopping the dojo floors, is to figure out if we can now actually use it for something interesting like challenging other dojos via the poorly-explained new tournament mode. I'm sure I don't know!

I don’t really play SFV as such anymore, but if you want to crush other dojos I’d happily crush once in a while.

More importantly, anyone want to try out some Kyanta 2 this and have some laughs this weekend, 9:30 AM Japan time either Sat or Sunday?







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"Maximum Justice Fist" , posted Tue 28 Sep 13:46post reply

"He's a madman!", they all said. "Even if he managed to grab a large B2-sized 1997 Justice Gakuen arcade flyer on an auction for less than the price of a bento lunch, there's no way anyone could harbor enough BURNING JUSTICE to display it properly and get a custom frame for it, right? ...Right?!?!" How wrong they were! Like Hayato says, 自分がまぶしいぜ! I'm incandescent! And I'm here to tell you that, like the arcade cabinet, my home is now "In Operation with Burning Vigor!"

Anyway, now that Akira is in SFV, Justice Gakuen is officially SF canon and thus on-topic forever in every thread. This is a good chance to remind you that Iggy's marvelous translation of that CFN interview with Itsuno on Justice Gakuen is massively better than the colorless, talentless excuse for an official translation that Capcom USA published.

Also, these Akira juggles by Momochi fill me with joy. Let's try to reproduce them when we head back to Gedo High School to celebrate as soon as Prof's hand is back in action, or anytime anyone wants a lagfest in the meantime!





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"Re(1):Maximum Justice Fist" , posted Tue 28 Sep 22:46post reply

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"He's a madman!", they all said. "Even if he managed to grab a large B2-sized 1997 Justice Gakuen arcade flyer on an auction for less than the price of a bento lunch, there's no way anyone could harbor enough BURNING JUSTICE to display it properly and get a custom frame for it, right? ...Right?!?!" How wrong they were! Like Hayato says, 自分がまぶしいぜ! I'm incandescent! And I'm here to tell you that, like the arcade cabinet, my home is now "In Operation with Burning Vigor!"

Nice! Now that's some quality game memorabilia.

The more I watch Akira videos, the more ridiculous she seems. I remember early theories were that her air combos were just for fun and she needed that charge blast to get in on fireballs. Instead, it seems as long as Akria can get a little bit of brotherly love Akira can land hilariously brutal mid-air damage. Why did such a hilarious character come so late in SF5's lifespan?







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"Charity fighters" , posted Thu 7 Oct 04:24post reply

So, Capcom is selling these two costumes and the money goes to charities against cancer.
https://tiltify.com/bcrf/street-fighter-v-bcrf-2021?fbclid=IwAR03G6QMO_RhixS4jQ0m1_o0x8jdXw9mcI5n5oJ5jZe1bm1pEMeZhkPdXbU
Obviously the idea is good (Especially since Capcom will give money anyway even if the costumes don't sell, which is nice), but we're mostly here to comment how fug these costumes are. It's like they each received each other's costume with the wrong instructions on how to wear them, and Chunli ended up with Ryu's suspenders on her shoulders while he uses her garter belt as a holster?
I'm not sure what's going on here. Also, while SF5 has no trouble highlighting Chun's breasts to raise awareness, I feel like they could have done better to emphasize Ryu's prostate. Just saying.







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"Re(1):Charity fighters" , posted Thu 7 Oct 08:23post reply

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So, Capcom is selling these two costumes and the money goes to charities against cancer.
https://tiltify.com/bcrf/street-fighter-v-bcrf-2021?fbclid=IwAR03G6QMO_RhixS4jQ0m1_o0x8jdXw9mcI5n5oJ5jZe1bm1pEMeZhkPdXbU
Obviously the idea is good (Especially since Capcom will give money anyway even if the costumes don't sell, which is nice), but we're mostly here to comment how fug these costumes are. It's like they each received each other's costume with the wrong instructions on how to wear them, and Chunli ended up with Ryu's suspenders on her shoulders while he uses her garter belt as a holster?
I'm not sure what's going on here. Also, while SF5 has no trouble highlighting Chun's breasts to raise awareness, I feel like they could have done better to emphasize Ryu's prostate. Just saying.


I’m hoping the outfits come with a costume code that will tie all those belts into place.







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"Re(1):Charity fighters" , posted Thu 7 Oct 09:43post reply

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It's like they each received each other's costume with the wrong instructions on how to wear them,



It looks like Ryu is wearing a long sleeve version of Ken's outfit, with bits of pink vinyl strapped onto it.

I uninstalled SFV a while back, but I wonder if Chun-Li's outfit uses work from other outfits. Something about it looks vaguely familiar.







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"Re(1):Charity fighters" , posted Thu 7 Oct 11:22post reply

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while SF5 has no trouble highlighting Chun's breasts to raise awareness, I feel like they could have done better to emphasize Ryu's prostate.
If you can remember back to the dark ages of SFV season 1, we were blessed with Hot Ryu, who was at least as hot as Hot Chun Li, but I guess the tables have turned at last. Hooray for a good cause, but what are they wearing, exactly? Is it in-universe cosplay of the actual June outfit that's available from Star Gladiator? A quick check on Event Hubs's comment section reveals that people think these outfits are "dope," of course.





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"Re(2):Charity fighters" , posted Sat 9 Oct 00:37post reply

quote:
It's like they each received each other's costume with the wrong instructions on how to wear them,


It looks like Ryu is wearing a long sleeve version of Ken's outfit, with bits of pink vinyl strapped onto it.

I uninstalled SFV a while back, but I wonder if Chun-Li's outfit uses work from other outfits. Something about it looks vaguely familiar.


Is Chun-Li's suit a less trashy version of her training outfit?

While the costumes are overdesigned in an SNK sort of way, I do like the asymmetry of the arm guard thing on Ryu. Uneven character designs are fun since they work in 3D... when the animators bother to keep the character consistent and don't just flip the model when they switch sides.







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"Re(3):Elderly fighters" , posted Wed 3 Nov 22:16post reply

For November the title to unlock in arcade mode is something like "middle aged warrior." Are they referencing a game, the programmers or what? Since Akira was SF5's last hurrah I guess they are doing whatever they feel like.





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"Re(4):Elderly fighters" , posted Thu 4 Nov 22:10post reply

I had a strange dream (or nightmare) last night, I dreamed that Luke was just released for SFV and it was discovered that he could transform in Anakaris so that now also Darkstalkers is canon in Street Fighter (like Final Fight and Rival Schools).

Why I dreamed about SFV? Why Luke? Why Anakaris of all possible characters? I don't know...





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"Re(5):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 6 Nov 02:22post reply

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I had a strange dream (or nightmare) last night, I dreamed that Luke was just released for SFV and it was discovered that he could transform in Anakaris so that now also Darkstalkers is canon in Street Fighter (like Final Fight and Rival Schools).

Why I dreamed about SFV? Why Luke? Why Anakaris of all possible characters? I don't know...



A random combination for sure. Perhaps it's because of their similar color schemes?





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"Re(6):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 6 Nov 03:44post reply

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A random combination for sure. Perhaps it's because of their similar color schemes?



It could be that, but really I usually don't dream about fighting games or bulky mummies. It was so random that I had to write it here for posterity.







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"Re(7):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 6 Nov 04:41post reply

Why Anakaris? It would have been more believable if Luke was actually Decapre in a rubber muscle suit, since the only way she's getting back into a SF game is through trickery.







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"Re(8):Akira fighters" , posted Sat 13 Nov 00:46post reply

A second Easter egg for Akira has been discovered. I get the feeling there are a number of Justice Gakuen fans working on SF5.





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"Re(5):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 14 Nov 01:52post reply

quote:
I had a strange dream (or nightmare) last night, I dreamed that Luke was just released for SFV and it was discovered that he could transform in Anakaris so that now also Darkstalkers is canon in Street Fighter (like Final Fight and Rival Schools).

Why I dreamed about SFV? Why Luke? Why Anakaris of all possible characters? I don't know...



Those are good questions, but unfortunately I have no answers. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if SFVI does turn Darkstalkers (among other Capcom franchises, like Saturday Night Slam Masters) into part of the SF canon universe.

In fact, I was kinda expecting that SFV's final character would actually be Morrigan or Haggar (though Haggar is already part of the SF canon universe).





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"Re(6):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 14 Nov 03:57post reply

quote:

Those are good questions, but unfortunately I have no answers. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if SFVI does turn Darkstalkers (among other Capcom franchises, like Saturday Night Slam Masters) into part of the SF canon universe.

In fact, I was kinda expecting that SFV's final character would actually be Morrigan or Haggar (though Haggar is already part of the SF canon universe).



It would be a weird choice to include Darkstalkers, but SF story is already a mess, so adding also vampires and other monsters to the mix probably is not so out of place.
They missed the chance to add classic 2D sprite Morrigan to SF5!





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"Re(7):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 14 Nov 11:49post reply

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It's a weird choice to include Darkstalkers, but SF story is already a mess, so adding also vampires and other monsters to the mix probably is not so out of place.


Exactly. I mean, Necalli is already kinda like a Darkstalker. So are Gill and Seth, in a way.

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They missed the chance to add classic 2D sprite Morrigan to SF5!



That would have been glorious! In fact wasn't there a joke back in the SFIV days about 2D-sprite Morrigan being a secret character (including even a "screenshot" of her in the game)?





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"Re(8):Elderly fighters" , posted Wed 24 Nov 17:17post reply

God is this guy ugly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsjeDcCqb-Q
Not "Rufus ugly" or even "Necalli ugly". He's worse: he's ugly AND boring at the same time (another blonde punchy punch guy). Also, what's going on with his fat forearms? Fat hand and feet are a series stable, but the forearms...?
I'm fine if he gets Decapre'd from SF6.





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"Re(9):Elderly fighters" , posted Wed 24 Nov 17:30post reply

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God is this guy ugly.
I'm fine if he gets Decapre'd from SF6.


But… but… he’s the “future of Street Fighter”!





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"Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 27 Nov 04:22post reply

Some fighting game characters will help flesh out a game and make it feel like a richer experience. Others only exist to get punched in the face by the player character so they can show they are worthy to take on the more interesting boss characters. Congrats Luke, you join the ranks of Franco Bash, Dairou from MK, and all the other professional bench warmers of fighting games.

What is interesting about Luke is that he appears to be a testing ground for SF6. The differences in his V-trigger and his ability to escape throws seems like trial runs for mechanics in future games.







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"Re(9):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 27 Nov 05:12post reply

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I'm fine if he gets Decapre'd from SF6.



At the start of SFV, I would have been happy knowing that Decapre had been Decapre'd. Midway through the game's life (particularly after A Shadow Falls), I was honestly a bit annoyed that she'd been booted for a Cammy return.


As for Luke, I don't have much hope for how Capcom treats him. Alex, Abel, Decapre, Necalli, ... They all just get pushed to the side so the series can return to the SF2 roster.







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"Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 27 Nov 07:44post reply

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I'm fine if he gets Decapre'd from SF6.


At the start of SFV, I would have been happy knowing that Decapre had been Decapre'd. Midway through the game's life (particularly after A Shadow Falls), I was honestly a bit annoyed that she'd been booted for a Cammy return.


As for Luke, I don't have much hope for how Capcom treats him. Alex, Abel, Decapre, Necalli, ... They all just get pushed to the side so the series can return to the SF2 roster.


Capcom didn’t do anything to Necalli. Instead, the world came together for a brief, shining moment and said with one voice that Necalli was garbage.







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"Re(2):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 27 Nov 11:21post reply

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Capcom didn’t do anything to Necalli. Instead, the world came together for a brief, shining moment and said with one voice that Necalli was garbage.



The first sentence led to the second.

Capcom didn't do anything to Necalli, or more accurately with Necalli. He was literally the face of SFV at the beginning, but Capcom was seemingly tired of him before they even bothered writing a story for the game he was representing.

A meaningful story presence, a real presentation of power, even decent lore could have gained Necalli a fan base even if others were turned off by his visual design or gameplay. Instead, Capcom did nothing, if not actively attempting to sweep his existence under the rug while rushing to get back to Ryu vs Bison.







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"Re(3):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 27 Nov 14:23:post reply

One of the many, many mysteries of Necalli will always be who disliked him more, fans or the staff. Did they look at the usage stats? Did people like me complain too much? Did the initial designer disappear and leave no one to advocate for him? Unlike other obvious failures like Abel, Alex, and soon to be Luke, Necalli barely got a full year of “his” game before being banished. Sure, he’s dreadful and out of place and I’m happy he’s gone, but I’m puzzled anyone bothered to add him in the first place if they were that uncommitted to him.

…sometimes, the silliest solution is also the most likely: maybe Capcom was worried that Namco would notice they stole Tekken 3’s dumb War God/Ogre character’s story word-for-word, and decided it would be less embarrassing if Ryu blasted him into a pile of goo as soon as possible before anyone noticed.

In a series where even characters who must die for the story to make any sense (Nash, Rose, Vega, Gouken) keep coming back to life, it is going to be hilarious if Necalli ends up with the dubious distinction of being the only SF character who actually stays dead.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sat 27 Nov 22:19post reply

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One of the many, many mysteries of Necalli will always be who disliked him more, fans or the staff. Did they look at the usage stats? Did people like me complain too much? Did the initial designer disappear and leave no one to advocate for him? Unlike other obvious failures like Abel, Alex, and soon to be Luke, Necalli barely got a full year of “his” game before being banished. Sure, he’s dreadful and out of place and I’m happy he’s gone, but I’m puzzled anyone bothered to add him in the first place if they were that uncommitted to him.

…sometimes, the silliest solution is also the most likely: maybe Capcom was worried that Namco would notice they stole Tekken 3’s dumb War God/Ogre character’s story word-for-word, and decided it would be less embarrassing if Ryu blasted him into a pile of goo as soon as possible before anyone noticed.

In a series where even characters who must die for the story to make any sense (Nash, Rose, Vega, Gouken) keep coming back to life, it is going to be hilarious if Necalli ends up with the dubious distinction of being the only SF character who actually stays dead.



Indeed.

Then again, Seth didn't seem to be loved either, and he turned out to be the only SFIV fighter besides Juri to return to SFV, even if very different from how he was before. Maybe a similar solution could be used for Necalli, doing severe alterations to him before he returns? Very, very unlikely, but not impossible.

As for Luke, apparently Capcom does plan to bring him back in SFVI - the question is whether he'll manage to return as the new face of the series or just as a secondary fighter with no more relevance than Zangief or Blanka. To be honest, I don't care; all I hope is that Laura also returns in VI - not only because she's Brazilian, but because I consider she's one of the few newcomers who actually succeeds in the World Warriors concept of representing the fighting style and country she's from.

Rashid and Menat are also cool, but I'm not sure if their fighting styles (Menat's psychic powers aside) are actually real like Laura's or Luke's.

(and I also think Capcom should add a Kim Kaphwan lookalike to be Ryu's true friendly rival in SFVI, rather than have Luke in this role)





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"Re(5):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 28 Nov 05:49post reply

Reading over Necalli's information in How to Make Capcom Fighting Characters it sounds like the developers weren't thrilled with the results either. They were given a mandate to make a new "dark hero" to fill the Akuma slot and were told that Akuma was popular in the West due to his mysterious aspects and his traditional garb. I guess nobody realized that Akuma is mainly popular because he's essentially a playable boss while being Ryu cranked up to 11. Akuma's habit of jumping in from nowhere to defeat everyone with his incredible skills is an appealing idea in a fighting game. Being a snarling weirdo who wants to eat people and occasionally vomits on the floor is not appealing in any circumstance. I get the feeling Necalli made it into the initial roster due to deadlines more than anything, with the producers hoping for the best that he might find an audience. It's not too surprising that G eventually took the SF5 boss role, since he had a personality.





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"Re(6):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 28 Nov 09:18post reply

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Reading over Necalli's information in How to Make Capcom Fighting Characters it sounds like the developers weren't thrilled with the results either. They were given a mandate to make a new "dark hero" to fill the Akuma slot and were told that Akuma was popular in the West due to his mysterious aspects and his traditional garb. I guess nobody realized that Akuma is mainly popular because he's essentially a playable boss while being Ryu cranked up to 11. Akuma's habit of jumping in from nowhere to defeat everyone with his incredible skills is an appealing idea in a fighting game. Being a snarling weirdo who wants to eat people and occasionally vomits on the floor is not appealing in any circumstance. I get the feeling Necalli made it into the initial roster due to deadlines more than anything, with the producers hoping for the best that he might find an audience. It's not too surprising that G eventually took the SF5 boss role, since he had a personality.



G is way more interesting than Necalli, but it's weird to see him as SFV's "boss" when there's barely anything that we know about him so far... we don't even know if his goal to become "president of the world" indicates that he's evil or if he means well.

Hopefully he'll return in SFVI, either as the boss or at least as a side antagonist (kinda like Gouki in SFII or Dictator in SFIV), so that his true intentions will be clearer.





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"Re(7):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Fri 3 Dec 04:48post reply

Hey, remember Luke? Well, even if you don’t, he’s in the game now. A few quick thoughts:
The John Crawley fireballs look good.
The braces are a nice touch.
His youthful, exuberant moves remind me of Sean. Why couldn’t he simply be Sean? I say this as someone who is completely indifferent to Sean.
The charging aspect of his punches make him more convoluted than he looks. He puts me in mind of Ed, where his moves were simple but getting maximum damage took a great deal of work.
Why do all his outfits feel similar and are similarly awful?
His v-trigger is most certainly a trial run for SF6.

Has anyone else tried him out?





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"Re(8):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 5 Dec 14:44post reply

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Has anyone else tried him out?


The 18GB update sits in my Steam queue, and I just think - not today Satan. ₍₍ (ง Ŏ౪Ŏ)ว ⁾⁾

I hope with a hypothetically better future product, Street Fighter 6 also takes a more sensible approach to data sizes. A game this ugly should not be so large.





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"Re(9):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 5 Dec 18:25post reply

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Has anyone else tried him out?

The 18GB update sits in my Steam queue, and I just think - not today Satan. ₍₍ (ง Ŏ౪Ŏ)ว ⁾⁾

I hope with a hypothetically better future product, Street Fighter 6 also takes a more sensible approach to data sizes. A game this ugly should not be so large.



Update for PS4 version is 35GB... the full game every time.







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"Re(9):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Sun 5 Dec 23:28post reply

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I hope with a hypothetically better future product, Street Fighter 6 also takes a more sensible approach to data sizes. A game this ugly should not be so large.



I'm guessing it might stay the same.

The old excuse was that Unreal Engine didn't support differential patching. From what I recall, SFV takes all the individual game files and packs and compresses them into around 50 or so "pak" files. Thus you end up with individual pak files that can be several GB in size, and without differential patching you have to redownload the entire file even if you only change a single byte within a single tiny asset file that is contained within it.

There is a problem with this excuse. Unreal Engine apparently did add support for differential patching years ago.

However, I've also heard the excuse that such differential patching support is platform-dependent, and that the PS4 is one of the platforms that does not support it. This isn't just an Unreal Engine thing, it also depends on the how the platform itself (Valve, Sony, etc) handles patches.

And there is the matter than it is simply easier for companies to just replace whole files. Capcom particularly might not care about the PC's fate if they really can't supply smaller patches for the PS4 release, but even if it is possible on both platforms they still might not care.





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"Re(10):Re(10):Elderly fighters" , posted Tue 7 Dec 23:51post reply

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Update for PS4 version is 35GB... the full game every time.


Ouch!

Yeah, I seem to recall developers discussing patches and platform holder approval processes, so consoles may be stuck with goofy update procedures.

I mean, it's over a decade into the so called Playstation "Network" (this may also apply to Xbox Live as well - Microsoft hasn't seen my money in. . . nine years?) and you still cannot gift games to friends. This is easily the most annoying thing to me, as I like to give my friends games they want for presents or if a game goes on sale (e.g. Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. Maxi Boost ON that was recently on sale - marking the third fourth time I've purchased it); but I am reduced to sending them a gift card and message "Please buy X Game".

Sorry, wandered off topic. It's just as a consumer, not a PC loyalist that I find this lack of common features so very frustrating.





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"Re(8):Re(10):(F)Luke" , posted Wed 8 Dec 01:44post reply

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Hey, remember Luke? Well, even if you don’t, he’s in the game now.

Has anyone else tried him out?



Did all his trials last night. My thoughts:

- His animations are terrible. His normals look goofy and even his forward/backward jumps feel unfinished.
- The Popeye bee sting arms will never not be dumb.
- Still not a fan of the charge punch-style moves, but he utilizes them much better than Cody.
- Story mode was such a joke. One fight with Guile and Bengus phoned in those cutscenes. Unless they find a way to transition Luke into the protag of SF 2010, I don't ever want to hear Capcom tout this guy as the "future of SF" ever again.

While I don't outright hate the guy, it's clear the devs would rather do another Rival Schools/JG and it irks me that Capcom would just roll it into SF6 than make a separate game. At this point I'd rather have the unfinished build of CFAS get leaked and reminisce on what could have been.





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"Re(9):Re(10):(F)Luke" , posted Wed 8 Dec 10:06post reply

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- The Popeye bee sting arms will never not be dumb.


I think it could be done, after all - most of the iconic artwork from the glory days of Street Fighter 1992-2001 were a grab bag of wild styles.

In a different time, I could see Luke amongst Bengus's classic taffy traps and crazy V-taper.Aesthetically pleasing, proportionally questionable.

Let's all join forces and lend Capcom our energy, and hope they don't waste it on Street Fighter 6. Call me a fool, I felt the same about the prospect of a Street Fighter 5. . . Although at that time of SF4 I refused to wear the rose tinted glasses of nostalgia and embrace the polygon and micro-cinematic ultra move gimmicks, so I was alone in that hope of a better tomorrow.





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"Re(10):Re(10):(F)Luke" , posted Thu 9 Dec 00:10post reply

Was Luke supposed to be an even larger showcase for SF6? The cut moves that were found suggest that SF6 might have more of a Justice Gakuen/A3 feel. Did the producers feel the need to cut back due to balance issues, leaving us with a slightly "meh" character?





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"Re(9):Re(10):(F)Luke" , posted Fri 10 Dec 04:02post reply

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Hey, remember Luke? Well, even if you don’t, he’s in the game now.

Has anyone else tried him out?


Did all his trials last night. My thoughts:

- His animations are terrible. His normals look goofy and even his forward/backward jumps feel unfinished.
- The Popeye bee sting arms will never not be dumb.
- Still not a fan of the charge punch-style moves, but he utilizes them much better than Cody.
- Story mode was such a joke. One fight with Guile and Bengus phoned in those cutscenes. Unless they find a way to transition Luke into the protag of SF 2010, I don't ever want to hear Capcom tout this guy as the "future of SF" ever again.



Yeah, the majority of the internet had reason to dislike Luke. He turned out to be a big disappointment in many ways. Capcom's character design team clearly doesn't care and has run out of ideas.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):(F)Luke" , posted Fri 10 Dec 06:30post reply

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The cut moves that were found



Can you elaborate on this? I couldn't find in the thread, ir tcrf. Net...





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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):(F)Luke" , posted Fri 10 Dec 10:12post reply

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The cut moves that were found


Can you elaborate on this? I couldn't find in the thread, ir tcrf. Net...



Killbox tweeted about unused moves he'd found while messing with the game files. A QCB+P aerial, apparently a Target Combo, and apparently custom air projectiles?

https://twitter.com/Killbawx/status/1466409685599371269