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| |  "Re(7):SNK acquisition (not quite)" , posted Fri 27 Nov 14:14:  
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The majority shareholder of EGDC is Mohammed bin Salman, the guy who ordered the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi (and 37 regular citizens, no big deal), so I think there's a fair amount of worry at least for me in terms of whether I'll want to continue working with them.
The barbarism of Mohammed bin Salam is horrible and would keep me from buying SNK games if he was the majority shareholder. But is he? Looking at Yuki's post it looks like he has 9.63%. Is there different information out there? Is there a properly vetted source for what is going on other than people shouting on Twitter?
Foremost, sorry for the late reply. My PC is lagging and I was up and awake until 5AM (Japan Time) doing additional research.
It turned out, the 33.3% Majority Shares is a real thing.
Misk Foundation had a press release regarding EGDC's attempt to become SNK's biggest Stockholder.
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EGDC also entered to an agreement with another SNK stockholder (Perfect World), to transfer their shares on January 21st 2021. If the deal succeeds they acquire 5% of stock shares. Thus the 33.3% stock share total if both deals succeed.
EGDC will also be able to acquire another 17.7% shares of SNK after 3 months of the aforementioned transfer via tender offer & if they would meet some of the pre-agreed conditions.
Based from this, if they succeed and meet some pre-agreed conditions, they'll try to acquire more 17.7% shares of stock, thus becoming a 51% majority shareholder.
"Lasciate ogne speranza"
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| | "Re(6):SNK acquisition (not quite)" , posted Fri 27 Nov 22:12
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The majority shareholder of EGDC is Mohammed bin Salman, the guy who ordered the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi (and 37 regular citizens, no big deal), so I think there's a fair amount of worry at least for me in terms of whether I'll want to continue working with them.
I've seen this sentiment shared around the net, and I'm quite puzzled by it. No ethical consumption under capitalism and all that, but also, an absolute king in the medieval sense murdering opponents seems to me like a rather normal thing? I mean, MBS is litteraly within his rights to do so (or maybe I've been playing too much CK3).
I don't quite understand why the murder of Khashoggi seems to be a bigger issue for some people than the genocide in Yemen, which (to me at least) appears to be the bigger horror.
And then... It circles down to "do you boycott companies who benefit from slave labour of Uigur people? Can you, even?". What about companies that benefit from contracts with the American government, whose war criminals (republican as well as democrats) will never be prosecuted and can even be shortlisted for the Peace Nobel prize, all while murdering thousands of civilians to steal their resources like bloodthirsty pirates?
I'm not trying to be "and yet you participate in society, I am very intelligent" here. I'm writing this message on a machine that would make me sick if I knew exactly the human and ecological cost of it. I understand the desire to be ethical in a system that can only exist by exploiting vulnerable people and destroying ecosystems. I just don't know how, or where to draw the line.
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| "Re(7):SNK acquisition (not quite)" , posted Sat 28 Nov 04:38
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Based from this, if they succeed and meet some pre-agreed conditions, they'll try to acquire more 17.7% shares of stock, thus becoming a 51% majority shareholder.
Huh, so I guess this is all going through then.
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I've seen this sentiment shared around the net, and I'm quite puzzled by it. No ethical consumption under capitalism and all that, but also, an absolute king in the medieval sense murdering opponents seems to me like a rather normal thing? I mean, MBS is litteraly within his rights to do so (or maybe I've been playing too much CK3).
It's true that people - whether singly or in groups - can be really awful. Also, trying to get through the day without doing something that is exploitative of someone or something makes my head spin. But with the murder of Khashoggi it puts a name to a face and personalizes it... I guess? It's like how the first person in town to get COVID-19 gets unwanted celebrity status and all the rest are just an ever increasing number on the news webpage next to the weather forecast. While I understand that any form of government is going to do unpleasant things they usually aren't trying to sell me a new Metal Slug game either.
As for my thoughts on SNK going forward (like anybody cares) I honestly don't know. There are a lot of slime who run the corporations I use regularly but that's usually just business. Here I get the feeling that EGDC is grabbing 51% of the stocks just so Mohammed bin Salman can have the ultimate video game collector's edition on his shelf. Sometimes the quickest way to lose interest in something is to meet the fans.
It makes me long for the innocent days of old when SNK was simply a money laundering operation.
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| | "Re(7):SNK acquisition (not quite)" , posted Sat 28 Nov 06:47
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I've seen this sentiment shared around the net, and I'm quite puzzled by it. No ethical consumption under capitalism and all that, but also, an absolute king in the medieval sense murdering opponents seems to me like a rather normal thing? I mean, MBS is litteraly within his rights to do so (or maybe I've been playing too much CK3).
I don't quite understand why the murder of Khashoggi seems to be a bigger issue for some people than the genocide in Yemen, which (to me at least) appears to be the bigger horror.
I didn't mention it here but the genocide in yemen is absolutely a part of it. And I know there's no ethical consumption under capitalism but it's personal for me because projects I work on would be making him money potentially. Where I have the ability to make a tiny ethical choice I try to, otherwise, as a person who has lived in the SF bay area his whole life and has a basic understanding of human psychology I would be very rich and none of you would like me. One has to draw the line somewhere, and directly enriching someone who has ordered genocide and murder of journalists and other citizens, that's a choice I can make.
Like you can barely use the internet without enriching peter thiel, which is terrible, but he hasn't killed anyone directly yet, just through systemic stuff. I've worked with Google, but I justified that by knowing it would lose them money. If I work on an SNK collection and it sells like gangbusters, I have helped fund the murder of people in Yemen a lot more directly than if I lose money for Google.
I just don't see how I can ignore it in this instance, basically.
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| | "Re(6):Re(10):SNK acquisition (not quite)" , posted Fri 25 Dec 10:33:
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Recently...
Manga Productions CEO Essam Bukhary appointed to SNK's board of directors as chief advisor.
According to SNK's board of directors, he'll serve to assist the chairman and the company president in the future and to perform the various duties in all projects SNK intends to promote.
In the future, SNK will plan to review and advise all IP licensing agendas as well as important strategic decisions of shareholders and teams in a timely manner.
Also, from a Japanese Analyst's point of view.
As a long time fan, this news really hurts, and to be honest, I'm out.
Yes, capitalism is evil and it's hard to avoid slimy greedy evil people but when it's this obvious it's possible to move away(eventhough it was genuienly sad).
Yes, I'm just a one person, but instead of being in a defeatist state it's far better to distance and avoid anything that contributes anything to you know who.First and least I could do is uninstalling all the mobile apps/subscriptions/followings on social media.
What a journey it was that this year, from Sony possibly buying the company to the worst possible person to buy it.
It will be extra sad if next installments are really good quality. Oh well, see you on your next buyout SNK, if ever. Goodbye.
Oh, I would like to change my username here. It was coincidentally self demeaning anyway. No point of keeping it at all.
Edit: signature and avatar change.
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| | "Re(7):Re(10):SNK acquisition (not quite)" , posted Sat 26 Dec 15:28
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Also, from a Japanese Analyst's point of view.
that article is a failure of journalism right there. doesn't mention any of the trouble spots even though (I confirmed this) the analyst in question brought these points up and urged the journalist to address it. Honk!!!
Regardless, I did spent 2-3 hours to translate this article (although I inserted some personal views in some parts) on twitter.
When I posted this on a Discord server, someone pointed it out that their acquisition attempt may just be a vanity move for Saudi Arabia.
I did find some stuff in there.
Saudi Arabia has an unusual, but common, tendency to suddenly cancel things which is dubbed by the Japanese called "dotakyan", which means "to cancel an appointment at the last minute". Even though they have improved over time, but they still have the tendency to "dotakyan" because they're still not used to preparing and running events. It remains to be seen if their majority stake attempt will be "dotakyan".
One example pointed out was the failed eSports event agreement between Japan and Saudi Arabia's eSports unions signed in 2018 to hold a tournament supposedly last year, but for some reason cancelled on November 2018. Also, the deal with Riot (but since it was covered everywhere when that news came out, I did not bother to add it).
(The following parts may be debatable since that article came out at the same time Essam Bukhary was appointed as Chief Advisor)
The press statement by MiSK said "Announced to Invest", but it does not say "Completed Invest". Thus, some people are jumping the gun already.
When there was a sales transfer was announced:
"The above payment date and maximum shareholder change date shall be January 12, 2021 or the parties to the sales transaction, assuming that all the preconditions for closing the transaction, including the approval of the off-site transaction by the Financial Supervisory Service, are met. Subject to change depending on progress as a date for making a separate agreement."
Whether or not it will happen, it is one of the conditions for approval from the Financial Supervisory Service of South Korea. It remains to be seen if whether things will proceed as originally announced. (At this point after this was posted, we do not know if it is still pending up to date or not.)
From this article at eDaily (which was in the article)
"- On the 30th of last month, each submitted a large-scale holding status report on shares, etc., based on the contract conclusion date. However, this is just a matter of change schedule based on the contract conclusion date, and it is possible only if the price is paid on January 12.
- An official of the Financial Supervisory Service said on December 1 that the foreign investment registration certificate should be submitted with simple documents such as a company establishment certificate and investment registration application and said, "Application for foreign investment registration of Saudi Arabian nationality." Has not been recently entered or approved."" (Note: We do not know yet if EGDC have submitted the foreign investment registration certificate after December 1.)
The article omitted something from the source:
"In this large-scale stake sale contract, the sale price is significantly higher than the current stock price and there is no down payment, so doubts about the contract itself remain.
In this regard, SNK explained that the deal for the sale of shares proceeded fairly quickly and that it takes time to issue a foreign investment registration certificate."
"In order for foreigners to acquire stocks listed in Korea, they must have a foreign investment registration card issued by the Financial Supervisory Service. If, in the disclosure of the sale of the shares of the largest shareholder, a foreign investment registration certificate from the Financial Supervisory Service is required to acquire a 10% down payment. EGDC, which is the subject of the stake purchase, is a Saudi Arabian nationality new corporation established on October 14th, and it has been found that it has not yet obtained a foreign investment registration certificate."
As I mentioned above, it is unknown if they (finally) submitted a FIRC after the eDaily article came out (December 3rd).
Here is what is chilling:
Their attempt in investing on SNK could be a starting point that they might also invest in (or acquire) other Japanese game developers that fits with their so called "Vision 2030". Especially with this pandemic, which make some developers are in a difficult situation, they "will break through difficult management in the future, and accept capital participation through investments by the likes of MiSK foundation."
A friend told me that they might also attempt in investing or acquiring some Japanese Entertainment Studios.
Here's a challenging question:
"If you are giving up on SNK because of them, what will you do if they'll invest to your favorite game developer next?"
"Lasciate ogne speranza"
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| | "Re(9):Re(10):SNK acquisition (not quite)" , posted Mon 28 Dec 09:12
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"If you are giving up on SNK because of them, what will you do if they'll invest to your favorite game developer next?"
I don't think there's any game developer I am so attached to that I couldn't give up buying their games due to distasteful ownership. On the other hand, there are plenty of companies whose services I continue to use in spite of their distasteful ownership, unfortunately.
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I've personally given up ever before all this happened. Years ago. Re-releases of 80s and 90s games won't win me over when the current crop of titles (in the past 10+ years) do not interest me at all. 2002UM was SNK's last good game. The only Japanese developed games I'm looking forward to are Varvarion and Goshow's CYBORG. Which means there are less than 5 people in Japan right now developing games I'd pay for. So, until M2 starts working on some classic Sega arcade ports again, I'm out.
For me, I think that there are still plenty of Japanese developers whose games I am interested in, particularly doujin outfits like Tasogare Frontier, Edelweiss, Nakidai, GOSHOW and so on! There's certainly also some studios which make things just for me, like Sandlot with EDF or whatever SaGa game Kawazu comes up with.
But SNK in particular I will say hasn't made a game that has strongly appealed to me in a long time, though the recent Samurai Shodown was a good effort. I certainly haven't been "wow'd" by SNK like I was in the 90s.
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| | "Re(9):Everything gets canceled" , posted Fri 8 Jan 15:46:
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Pretty bold to have "SHATTER ALL EXPECTATIONS" as the mission statement this time around. Although it does look better it still has similar models, similar animations, similar effects, even similar music... what expectations are they expecting to shatter, I wonder...?
Well that trailer was certainly... well, it's KOF so I'll still pick it up. The graphics are detailed and 4K but, at least with the trailer as Gojira pointed out, there's nothing to "Wow" about as a new title that's been in the waiting for 4 years. Similar graphic style, similar soundtrack, no fresh character reveals. At this point I'm more excited about the Masami Obari short than the game itself. Hopefully more refreshing content in updates to come.
I'm sure that there's going to be people that are going to break down the trailer in detail but what's with the background being so distant, did they decide to go with a design of lower specs/low-res to balance the texsture load speed with that of the unreal engine to keep things within acceptable range? If so, that's a very smart move although it still would've been nice if the background was closer to the characters even if they looked a tad pixelated. Digressing a bit, that kind of reminds me of the design decision in 14 which actually had 'circular' stages, probably due to the way the devs decided to handle the game's cameraworks.
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| | "Re(3):Re(10):Everything gets revealed" , posted Sat 9 Jan 01:03
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Trailer drops
Hibiki in SS, makes sense since she already has the cinematic super. Almost thought it was Yuki.
Are they using Unreal now for XV? Couldn't really tell.
KOF XV looks quite good! That's a much better first impression than the one we had for XIV (and XIV ended up being much better than its first trailer indicated it would be).
As for Cham Cham and Hibiki in SS, that's great news as well! It's surprising to me that it took SNK so long to add Cham Cham, considering she seemed to be very popular back in the 1990s (even being chosen as one of the main heroes in the SS RPG, being used as a bonus to attract players to the PS version of SSIV and all that).
I agree. XV looks incredible! I had fun with XIV, even when people were still griping about the graphics. SNK used their own engine for that one. So, I am glad they went with the Unreal Engine for XV. I imagine this would be a PS exclusive, due to the engine being used. Some in the community have griped about that, but I don't mind.
The news of Cham Cham and Hibiki being revealed for SS2019: Season 3 was uplifting to my spirits! Cham Cham now makes her proper return to the franchise once again. I liked used Hibiki in CvS2, so I'm sure I will enjoy using her here. I can't wait to see how her story mode will be.
I really do hope SS gets at least a couple of new backgrounds this season as well.
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| | "Re(6):Re(10):Everything gets revealed" , posted Sat 9 Jan 08:33
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Now that will be interesting to see. After all, isn't The Last Blade supposed to take place several decades (if not centuries) after the SS series? I wonder if SNK will either justify it as Hibiki time-travelling somehow (maybe thanks to the same shenanigans that brought Nakoruru to the KoF XIV days) or if they'll retcon SS and LB as taking place during the same period rather than in different eras (just like they did with FF and AOF in the KoF timeline).
I see three options:
1) As with FF/AOF in KOF, SNK uses this as a method of blending Samurai Shodown and Last Blade characters into the same time period (though this may or may not carry back into any potential future Last Blade game)
2) As with Nakoruru in KOF, Hibiki gets a world/time travel explanation for the crossover
3) As with the other SS2019 crossover characters, Hibiki just shows up without explanation. While For Honor is a mishmash of time periods, Warden's armor and moves apparently date him to the 13-15th century. Gongsun Li is apparently from a fantasy world. SS2019 treats both as characters that just happened to wander by and got involved in the story before leaving. (It sounds like this is also pretty much how Honor of Kings handled the arrival of its crossover SNK characters as well.)
Well, regardless of whatever story Hibiki will get, she's nevertheless a cool character and it's great to see her back.
Now with SS getting more seasons and KoF XV on its way, all SNK needs now is a proper tag-team fighting game; I was recently watching some Kizuna Encounter matches on the YouTube and, while the game itself had many flaws, its more realistic tag system (you know, with your character needing to be in their corner to be able to tag and with the battle ending if any member of the team is defeated, just like in pro-wrestling) has grown on me. SNK Heroines could have been a worthy successor (and the idea of an all-female fighting game with the main SNK gals is pretty cool), but unfortunately it was too chaotic and weird to work out...
Maybe I'm this person right in front of you... nah probably not though.
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| | "Re(4):Mildly shattering a few expectations?" , posted Fri 29 Jan 03:28
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The most unexpected thing would be if Kyo teamed up with Kukri
If K' got involved somehow, I could see this working. Those three would definitely get under each other's skin the entire time and it would make for great banter.
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Come to think of it, haven't several KOF fighters moved from one team to another at some point? Yuri was the first one in '96 (and she's still often moving from the AOF Team to the Women Team and vice-versa), Kim once joined the FF Team when he couldn't team up with his disciples, and since we're talking about Benimaru, not only he joined K''s team in '99, he also joined Elizabeth's team in XI (mind you, unlike '99 and 2000, Kyo had a team in XI).
We are now at a point where the only constant throughout the entire series is Ralf and Clark. If they actually disturb that dynamic, then things can really get interesting.
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| | "Re(8):Mildly shattering a few expectations?" , posted Sun 31 Jan 03:30
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I doubt we will ever see Ralf and Clark in two separate teams, but the Ikari Team could work even without them with all the other members: Leona, Heidern, Whip. But Whip lately it's only there as a filler, having exhausted her role after the Clone saga. Not that the Ikari team wasn't shoehorned in every game story just because they can (but this could be said also for K' Team).
Another couple of characters that (for what I remember) was never separated is Athena and Kensou! They replaced Chin with Bao/Momoko, but the other two were always together (and their story of Kensou never declaring to Athena or Athena ignoring him has become so overused now... I preferred the Dragon power story arc thing they started with Bao but that was left incomplete too).
Correction, Kensou was missing in '03, well... they could repeat that.
It's interesting how some KOF characters are so attached to each other that it's hard to imagine them in separate teams. That also applies to Mature and Vice; in fact, one of the things that always annoyed me in the two CvS games is how Capcom only had Vice as a playable character - it was a forgivable mistake in the first game, but then CvS2 came and they still kept Mature only as a cameo in the Vice vs. Rugal intro...
And then there's the New Faces Team. Then again, they canonically only appeared in '97 - but still, it's hard to imagine them being separated.
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| | "Re(9):Mildly shattering a few expectations?" , posted Sun 31 Jan 05:12
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And then there's the New Faces Team. Then again, they canonically only appeared in '97 - but still, it's hard to imagine them being separated.
Mind, thanks to KOF's time alteration shenanigans and the return of Mature and Vice, people expect the New Faces team to return. Even more so since Shermie was included in Tag Team Frenzy.
Maybe SNK will shake teams up even further by putting Shermie on the Women's team, or pairing her with Mature and Vice for an Orochi Women's team. Maybe SNK will make either Yashiro or Chris, but not both. Sure, these aren't likely developments, but if SNK actually wants to shake up teams just to shake them up, then all are possible.
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| | "Re(7):SNK vs Capcom" , posted Fri 5 Feb 21:25:
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Gematsu reports SNK vs. Capcom: The Match of the Millenium getting a Switch port. Are other SNK vs. Capcom games likely to follow?
Let's hope so. I mean, CvS2 got ported to pretty much every console in the PS2 era, so it shouldn't be hard to bring it back...
Regardless, it's great to see MotM back! Despite being a handheld game, it had so much content and so much variety... if a CvS3/SvC3 ever starts being developed, I'd love if it brought back the option to play either as a single character in 1-on-1 matches, as KoF trios or as MvC tag teams - couple that with several groove options like in CvS2 and it would be perfect! Sure, maybe not perfect for tournament players worried about balance and stuff, but for casual players who are just looking for a fun game? Oh yeah!
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EDIT: That reminds me, SNK hasn't released the NGPC Last Blade game yet, right? Or has it? I'd expect that game to come out first, and only then release MotM (or the Card Clash twin games) as the grand finale to the NGPC catalogue.
Maybe I'm this person right in front of you... nah probably not though.
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| | "Re(9):SNK vs Capcom" , posted Sat 6 Feb 04:10
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EDIT: That reminds me, SNK hasn't released the NGPC Last Blade game yet, right? Or has it? I'd expect that game to come out first, and only then release MotM (or the Card Clash twin games) as the grand finale to the NGPC catalogue.
I could be wrong, but I remember they announced/released it.
You're not wrong, I was: I just checked and you're right, it was re-released on Switch.
I'm shocked I missed this announcement, as the NGPC version of Last Blade was the second game on that handheld that most interested me (only behind MotM)... I loved SNK's idea of somehow adapting both LB and LB2 into a single game and making you first go through the first game's story before you could experience LB2's story and unlock the characters that were only added in the sequel. To me, SNK used to be the best company when it came to storytelling in fighting games (not that Capcom and Midway offered much of a challenge and Arc System Works didn't exist back then, but still), and this idea for the handheld version of Last Blade was brilliant.
Maybe I'm this person right in front of you... nah probably not though.
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| | "Re(10):SNK vs Capcom" , posted Sat 6 Feb 18:07:
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I'm shocked I missed this announcement, as the NGPC version of Last Blade was the second game on that handheld that most interested me (only behind MotM)... I loved SNK's idea of somehow adapting both LB and LB2 into a single game and making you first go through the first game's story before you could experience LB2's story and unlock the characters that were only added in the sequel. To me, SNK used to be the best company when it came to storytelling in fighting games (not that Capcom and Midway offered much of a challenge and Arc System Works didn't exist back then, but still), and this idea for the handheld version of Last Blade was brilliant.
Yeah, it should be an amazing game, I always wanted to buy a NGPC for that game and CFC (and SvC), but for some reasons I always postponed it until it was too late. Now, used consoles have high prices and games even more high prices.
The only flaw that the NGPC has is the not backlit screen, using one nowadays is atrociously bad. I had an original Game Boy back then, and I don't know how I and lots of other kids could bear playing with that screen. I realized this a couple years ago when I impulsively bought a Wonderswan Color, "Yeah, let's get the Crystal version that has a better color screen", then when it arrived I realized that not backlit color screens are a thing and practically never used it.
On Youtube I saw a couple of people modding their NGPCs with modern backlit screens, but the result is not exactly perfect as the new screens are smaller and so there are big black borders all around.
What if the next strange console rerelease by SNK is a new NGPC? With some pre-installed games and also a working cartridge slot, it would be amazing.
(I don't have a Switch and I don't plan to buy one only for these NGPC re-releases, but my opinion could change if a new CFC game with online play would be released....)
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| "Re(5):Re(10):Mildly shattering a few expectat" , posted Wed 10 Feb 14:44
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Hopefully he's with some new people (or, like... Duolon, Ash, who knows) so that it leaves Mature and Vice to team up with Shermie.
Here's hoping. A Vice/Mature/Shermie team might add enough volume (and/or "zing")to my current admixture of equal parts pity and nostalgia to get me to buy in.
Again, hoping they will nab Vice's anti-air sleeve from CVS2. They should have ripped that move off long, long ago.
I think some one mentioned that what if we got some guest characters from other franchises. Especially since some SNK characters were guest in other fighting games. If it happens, would be nice to see a team say Ryu, Kazuya, Skull Mania.
Now there is a time travel plot in KOf so maybe, just maybe.
Long Live I AM!
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| | "Epic teamup!" , posted Thu 11 Feb 03:29
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Hopefully he's with some new people (or, like... Duolon, Ash, who knows) so that it leaves Mature and Vice to team up with Shermie.
Here's hoping. A Vice/Mature/Shermie team might add enough volume (and/or "zing")to my current admixture of equal parts pity and nostalgia to get me to buy in.
Again, hoping they will nab Vice's anti-air sleeve from CVS2. They should have ripped that move off long, long ago.
I think some one mentioned that what if we got some guest characters from other franchises. Especially since some SNK characters were guest in other fighting games. If it happens, would be nice to see a team say Ryu, Kazuya, Skull Mania.
Now there is a time travel plot in KOf so maybe, just maybe.
Sign me up for a team of Cammy, Leona and B. Jenet, then! It would be an epic team to end epic teams!
I saw an article not too long ago that SNK was planning on including Ken and Ryu in KOF 98 as a "joke" of sorts. Or something along those lines.
All of this makes me want CvS3 that much more.
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| | "Re(2):Something something expectations" , posted Fri 12 Feb 01:15
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Iori and Joe don't make any sense together; if Joe decided not to team up with Terry (which is very unlikely), it would make more sense to team him up with, I don't know, Kensou and Yuri, for example.
SNK would need a really good explanation to make these two characters work together.
Do they, though? Iori teamed with Vanessa, Seth and Ramon in 01 just to fill a slot and their whole ending was, "well, we got nothing better to do, so let's kick Iori's ass".
Robert could be the next announcement and the team story could be him financing an action movie for Joe with Iori on the soundtrack.
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| "Re(3):Something something expectations" , posted Fri 12 Feb 01:52
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Iori and Joe don't make any sense together; if Joe decided not to team up with Terry (which is very unlikely), it would make more sense to team him up with, I don't know, Kensou and Yuri, for example.
SNK would need a really good explanation to make these two characters work together.
Do they, though? Iori teamed with Vanessa, Seth and Ramon in 01 just to fill a slot and their whole ending was, "well, we got nothing better to do, so let's kick Iori's ass".
Robert could be the next announcement and the team story could be him financing an action movie for Joe with Iori on the soundtrack.
I hope they are together. Iggy had some interesting points. Freeters is indeed the funniest one and possible. I always like something different or evolving. As to why they would be together? I have no ideas. But I like it if it happens
Long Live I AM!
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| | "Re(4):Something something expectations" , posted Fri 12 Feb 06:40
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Do they, though? Iori teamed with Vanessa, Seth and Ramon in 01 just to fill a slot and their whole ending was, "well, we got nothing better to do, so let's kick Iori's ass".
I forgot that Iori's team in 01 was basically whatever characters were leftover. Then again, I've forgotten most of 01.
To be fair, Iori's teammates in 01 had ties with each other (Vanessa and Seth being fellow agents and Ramon being madly in love with Vanessa since the previous game); Iori was the only team member with no connection to them, only being invited to the team so that they could complete the team.
In XV's case, unless the third member would be someone directly related to Joe, like Andy, it would be quite weird to see two random fighters first deciding to join each other and then deciding to join Iori (with his long history of assaulting and sometimes murdering his former teammates - Billy, Eiji, Mature, Vice, Kyo, Shingo...).
(on another note, writing about Iori's team in 01 makes me wish Seth will return in XV... he's possibly my favorite character introduced in the NESTS arc)
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| | "Re(5):Re(10):Kyo be lit!" , posted Wed 24 Feb 08:55
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She is? Gosh, if so, sorry for the confusion; I remember reading in a video game magazine that she was supposed to be around 40...
I always thought she was in her 30s.
By the way, from the usual twitter post describing the new design for the characters, says they added a cloak (I didn't notice at all!), and the inside of her jacket and outsoles of her shoes are now colored red.
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1364032737665978372/photo/1
I don't really like this rendition of Chizuru!
I mean, it's not horrible, but the way Chizuru previously was was so striking:
- she had a modern, high-fashion outfit that looked like it alluded to a shrine maiden
- it was cut in a sharp, angular way, which when combined with her icy cold stance gave her an almost robotic/sci-fi atmosphere
- her pants and shoes that went with it also had a sharply professional business lady sense to it
- her attack motions with the flowing/sweeping motions and the dangling sleeves that she often ends with sharp snaps, when combined with the above made her seem supernatural and powerful
So this starts with the original as a base, which is totally ok to do, then makes the entire upper body portion softer and floppier, and the dangling sleeves are now so large and soft looking that they border on being garish. I don't like this because it loses a lot of the qualities of the original while not really bringing anything new or interesting to the table. It's like they are trying to emphasize the priestess part more in doing so, but it's LAME and weak. I feel like there's a lot they could've done with her, whether or not they wanted to go in the direction of her being significantly older since last time she showed up, and they largely declined from that.
If anything, I think they should've taken a chance and tried to make a significantly different costume that still tried to retain those aforementioned sensibilities of the original, as opposed to trying to retain the literal concrete elements of the original. There's a lot you can do with "sharply-dressed gracefully dancing icy business lady priestess"! And any time you wonder if this is too far or not, you just look at Vice and Mature and see what things present them as "underlings" and not "bosses", or "too-sultry" and not "professional"!
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| "Re(6):Re(10):Kyo be lit!" , posted Thu 25 Feb 04:07
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She is? Gosh, if so, sorry for the confusion; I remember reading in a video game magazine that she was supposed to be around 40...
I always thought she was in her 30s.
I got her age from the SNK wiki, which means that info could come from an actual SNK source or from some fan's overactive imagination. Whatever the case, Chizuru will always look older than her teammates due to her fashion sense being twenty five years out of date.
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By the way, from the usual twitter post describing the new design for the characters, says they added a cloak (I didn't notice at all!), and the inside of her jacket and outsoles of her shoes are now colored red.
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1364032737665978372/photo/1
Hmm, I'm not certain that cloak is really necessary, since her hair is so long it obscures her back.
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I don't really like this rendition of Chizuru!
I mean, it's not horrible, but the way Chizuru previously was was so striking:
- she had a modern, high-fashion outfit that looked like it alluded to a shrine maiden
- it was cut in a sharp, angular way, which when combined with her icy cold stance gave her an almost robotic/sci-fi atmosphere
- her pants and shoes that went with it also had a sharply professional business lady sense to it
- her attack motions with the flowing/sweeping motions and the dangling sleeves that she often ends with sharp snaps, when combined with the above made her seem supernatural and powerful
True, her current rendition softens her outline without bringing anything new. Originally, her tight, black slacks and huge-ass shoulder pads gave her a triangular look that was striking. The shortened shoulders took away that silhouette. Also, I'm not certain the animation style of KoF15 suits her. The limited frames of KoF96 helped sell the certainty and impact of her moves. While KoF15 emphasizes her graceful movement it needs to add a bit more oomph to her strikes.
Digression: I want Chizuru, Brian Battler and King Lion all in the same game so I can play Team Padding.
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| | "Re(7):Re(10):Kyo be lit!" , posted Thu 25 Feb 06:10
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Hmm, I'm not certain that cloak is really necessary, since her hair is so long it obscures her back.
I had to rewatch the trailer just to notice the cloak.
At first I thought the cloak was pointless; being so missable certainly implied as much. From the back, it looks no different than an open jacket. From the front, I'd originally felt the red blended too easily into the black hair, and worse the mesh itself clipped into her hair at times.
My opinion started to shift as I rewatched it a bit more. It didn't clip as much as I'd originally thought, and the red blending into the black seemed to be more an issue with YouTube compression.
What really stood out though was that rather than being redundant to her hair, it might actually have a visual benefit. The red side breaks up the large black mass that would otherwise be right next to a large white maass.
But also, during motion the cloak is often quite visible in areas well beyond where her hair is. For example, when Chizuru does her doppleganger attacks, her hair is massed on the side of her body away from her opponent, but the red of her cloak is clearly visible under the arm that is raised towards the opponent. I'm guessing that SNK is also using some form of physics simulation for Chizuru's hair, as some moves send her hair flying wildly. In these situations where her hair is seemingly trying to escape her body, the cloak gives more controlled movement centered on her back.
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